The bunnies and eggs symbology *way* predates medieval times. Even it's mostly modern form was paganism that the church largely coopted because the heathens wouldn't knock it off. Fertility was kinda an important thing for early man.
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News Fantasmic!, Festival of Fantasy Parade and Mickey's Royal Friendship Faire to return to Walt Disney World
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EricsBiscuit
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Didn’t have the time. I appreciate your courteous response.
Not the “the Church adopted pagan holidays” trope. Ayayayay
brb1006
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How was Pinocchio and Donald doing during this?
UNCgolf
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There are numerous examples of cultures decorating eggs that predate Christianity. That doesn't mean Christianity co-opted them, but the idea didn't originate with Easter and Christianity.
As for the broader point surrounding Christian co-option of pagan traditions -- you're right in that there are people who want to claim essentially every Christian celebration etc. was the church taking a pagan celebration and slapping a new name on it, and that's simply not true.
With that said, historically speaking there are certainly some pagan traditions that influenced Christian celebrations. However, it was never really something like the church saying "let's take this and make it ours". It was local customs merging with the new religion in various ways. That's nothing unique to Christianity, though, that's simply how cultures develop over time.
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The hare in all of its motifs predates Christianity and used throughout the history of Christianity. Associating it with Easter customs was after the medieval period in the 17th century.
Likewise the egg and its motifs predate Christianity and is incorporated into Christian themes from the first century with the cracked open egg representing the Empty Tomb. Staining the eggs, especially with red, is from way before the medieval period.
The hare was associated with Mary and the Virgin Birth because of the myth that hares can reproduce asexually. The egg was all about the Resurrection.
Easter Bunny - Wikipedia
Easter egg - Wikipedia
WorldExplorer
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Like half the reason I even asked was because I want to see Oswald at some point and was under the impression he was in there.
Great, I prompted a theology debate for nothing.
The biggest DHS Surprise TDO could pull is a return to the Standard of DHS Pyro before SWAGS. It's too bad DHS didn't find a way around that.
PTN would be a Shock as well!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
ToTBellHop
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F! may take a bit longer due to omicron v. 2.0…ugh.
Zummi Gummi
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What I don’t understand is why Disneyland, which exists in the far more cautious state, does not share these concerns.
ToTBellHop
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California is an island isolated from COVID, now.
What about the fate of MK's Entertainment? Any pull back????
Disney Glimpses
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That's a little confusing considering those concerns apparently don't exist anywhere else on property.
You could say FOF has COVID Rules right now....
Also...just asking here.....is there an omicron 2.0 in the US? I haven't heard anything on the News(I know why and I understand it but still)
Disney Glimpses
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It is and it is rising to overtake BA.1 but cases continue to fall.
BA.2 represents 20-30% of cases in the United States right now, but again, cases continue to fall.
Time will tell.
Edit: Apparently IHME is not up to date. But again, time will tell. So far so good. We've had far more infection in the United States than everywhere else. We paid the price for that but it may save us now.
ToTBellHop
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The concerns exist but Disney will not quickly remove something they already brought back or announced. F! has no date yet.
Did we notice they finished the refurb, filled the lagoon, and then…chilled?
ToTBellHop
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IHME has not been updated since 2/17 and did not predict what has happened in Europe.
Disney Glimpses
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Yikes, they should shut the page down then.
Disney Glimpses
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But they did announce and bring back the castle stage show despite BA.2 looming.