Monorail_Orange
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IIRC, it's been a while since you visited the parks, but nowadays the vast majority of park goers already have magic bands. Making such a change would have a negligible impact and/or revenue stream.
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Express Transportation starting Dec 7th
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jt04
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Really? Some on these boards claim the next-gen system has been a financial disaster.
Monorail_Orange
Well-Known Member
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. If the next gen system was successful, why hasn't DLR adopted it too? Answer: it's not successful. Also don't forget that every single guest staying on property received a band as part of their room rate.
Chef Mickey
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Easily calculated...anyone who buys Park Hoppers...I think it's quite a few, particularly experienced guests and probably most annual pass holders.
Express Transportation was perfect.
halltd
Well-Known Member
You can cancel and rebook ADRs without penalty. If you wanted out of the hoppers, it's easily doable. Unless you booked the most popular restaurants at each park on the same day, getting replacements shouldn't be hard.
Exactly. The trouble is the price-point for this is nearly double what Uber costs in some instances. Thankfully there's enough luddites and uneducated tourists from the flyover states who think Uber or Lyft are somehow dangerous and scary. Disney offering the same service at a ripoff price is worth it though.
What I do think would be an enormous benefit is some kind of hybrid of this Express Transportation and Minnie Van. Offering on-demand park hopping services in the same manner to guests. It would take a bit of logistical work to figure out how do it efficiently and to properly execute the guest learning curve (which can be daunting). The best solution would be a park-hopping button within the MDE app, where you can choose the closest of multiple in-park gates to meet your Minnievan driver who will the whisk you away to the next destination.
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epcotfan
Active Member
I do have popular restaurants booked and the reservation times are based on my Fastpasses so no chance of moving things around. I'm over the bus thing. Just annoyed that I tailored my vacation to incorporate that service.
The new normal is that Disney doesn't care about your perfectly tailored vacation plans. One thing you can now plan on is that Disney will likely throw something at you last minute that messes with your plans.
Huh? Not everyone who bought park hoppers also used direct park to park transport. And it appears that only a small minority used the express service.
Something was clearly wrong with the model or it wouldn't be ending. Not enough customers, not a high enough price point, whatever. Something wasn't right.
Bender123
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And that's mostly the issue. The monorail resorts y doing secu
this is the point...
You also can not use "people who have hoper passes/AP holders" as a number, because:
1: They don't all go to the same parks
2: They don't all hop at the same time
3: There is no guarantee they hop at all
4: How many go to a park, take a hotel break, then hop
5: Most hopped times
6: Most hopped parks
By the time that you boil down the people who are hopping directly from Park A to Park B at any given 15 minute period, its relatively low. If you aren't filling a whole bus every fifteen minutes, then you aren't really needing a second bus service. Based on their average ridership, they could easily make the premium service the new standard service without much cost, at all.
epcotfan
Active Member
Ain't that the truth. I should have known better.
It's not as successful as they had hoped but the big reason it didn't get to DLR was culture. The vast majority of their guests are only there for the day, have zero interest in pre-planning their day and have little control over their arrival/departure times thanks to traffic, etc. Add in a fervent AP community which is a massive revenue stream, unlike in Florida, and who have zero interest such technology, it just would be an even bigger money waster.
How many of these 50 new buses have been tied up with this service which is now going to free them up? Also I doubt these 50 new buses were all additions as some surely replaced older ones due to be removed from service. So how ment actually went to improving the service of an ever expanding resort?
Well, I guess you could presume that over a thousand buses were recently aged out, and with these 50 new buses and the buses freed up from shutting down Express that there are now about negative six hundred buses currently in use.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
No idea just rest assured they will be Shareholder friendly, and rather unfriendly to guests....
MaximumEd
Well-Known Member
Good grief, dude. Give it a rest.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
But Disney DEMANDS that you make those detailed travel plans...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Why its the truth, This convenient and reasonably priced bus service was zapped so it could be replaced with a 20 buck per Ride service, Considerably more shareholder friendly... wouldnt you say
Monorail_Orange
Well-Known Member
Yeah, by going to DLR.