Express Transportation starting Dec 7th

[Creathir]

Sure additional buses can be leased. But I think the difference is that many of us don't believe Disney will actually do that.

Why? Seriously you guys have solid numbers on how many buses they lease on a weekly basis?

I'm guessing that's a no.

 

[Bandini]

I don't get this attitude. Its not an extra fee that they added to your ticket like airlines do. It is an OPTIONAL service. You do not have to use it. Keep using the free transportation all you like. They are offering a service for those who want to pay a bit extra for it. You would think that a person would be happy to have more options. You can't win here. If they didn't have services, you all would be complaining that Disney does not offer enough. What's the real issue here? Is it that you can't afford it and so you are jealous? I would be willing to pay for this, we park hop all the time. I would love a faster way of getting to Epcot for our dinner reservation instead of leaving MK over an hour before our reservation.

Well, I would suggest you use Uber to get to Epcot. These buses only show up every 30 minutes, so I don't think you'll save much time. Also, no one knows if it will be a hop on hop off bus that makes the circuit, or if it will be separate buses dedicated to each park. Then there's the resources that are required to staff this. My guess is Disney won't be hiring any additional staff or purchasing/leasing additional buses, so the CM's and the buses will be pulled from their current pool.

No I don't know this will happen, but that has been the current trend in Disney's theme park management.

 

[drizgirl]

Why? Seriously you guys have solid numbers on how many buses they lease on a weekly basis?

I'm guessing that's a no.

Nope. Just going with the odds.

 

[drizgirl]

They have not intentionally created a problem. There have always been lines to get in the parks and wait for the bus. Always.
Security is/will be tightening up.

That's a fact of our modern life.

Them offering the ability to skip that mess is a godsend. Don't like it? Don't do it. No one is making you.

Really childish to whine about a new optional service they are offering.

I for one will be partaking in it on our next trip.

No they have not intentionally created a problem. Just refused to address a situation that needed to be addressed.

If the situation is so bad that people are willing to pay for an alternate arrangement, then why haven't they just added more buses and routes to the regular system?

It's not the presence of the new system people are reacting to. It's the lack of attention to the regular system, and the concern that they will siphon off resources for the new system, leaving the old system even worse off.

 

[Creathir]

Nope. Just going with the odds.

More like just being cynical.

At most this MAYBE takes away 3-4 buses from the overall system. At most.
My guess is they lease new ones. Or maybe they are adding more in general?

I told my wife about this, she is as thrifty as they come, and she thought it was a terrific idea on Disney's part.

Avoiding security/park entrance: awesome deal.

 

[Creathir]

Well, I would suggest you use Uber to get to Epcot. These buses only show up every 30 minutes, so I don't think you'll save much time. Also, no one knows if it will be a hop on hop off bus that makes the circuit, or if it will be separate buses dedicated to each park. Then there's the resources that are required to staff this. My guess is Disney won't be hiring any additional staff or purchasing/leasing additional buses, so the CM's and the buses will be pulled from their current pool.

No I don't know this will happen, but that has been the current trend in Disney's theme park management.

Uber is great, but outside the security bubble this has the potential to allow guests to skip.

Not equivalent.

 

[drizgirl]

More like just being cynical.

At most this MAYBE takes away 3-4 buses from the overall system. At most.
My guess is they lease new ones. Or maybe they are adding more in general?

I told my wife about this, she is as thrifty as they come, and she thought it was a terrific idea on Disney's part.

Avoiding security/park entrance: awesome deal.

So you have inside information on how the new routes will run?

Buses are going to run every 30 minutes (which I think is a joke already). If they are only using 3 or 4 buses, that's one bus per loop. They are going to make that complete round trip (including loading and unloading) in 30 minutes?

And I'm sorry but if the current system is that bad, they shouldn't be siphoning of any resources, no matter how few.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Exactly.

This entitled attitude some folks have is disgusting.
Ya know what, Disney is just OFFERING a service. They are not slighting you.
Additional busses can easily be leased.

Ya don't like the idea of paying $15 for inter park transport behind security, then don't partake in it.

Stand in line with everyone else.

Good grief.

So people paying up to $700+/night are entitled whiners when they complain that the associated amenities suck?

 

[Creathir]

No they have not intentionally created a problem. Just refused to address a situation that needed to be addressed.

If the situation is so bad that people are willing to pay for an alternate arrangement, then why haven't they just added more buses and routes to the regular system?

It's not the presence of the new system people are reacting to. It's the lack of attention to the regular system, and the concern that they will siphon off resources for the new system, leaving the old system even worse off.

How do you know they haven't added more?

The TSA security screening at the airport offers TSA PreCheck for those that want to pay for it. Why not just add more agents?

Because some people are willing to pay to avoid the line.

If you're not. That's fine. Don't. No one is making you buy it.

 

[Creathir]

So people paying up to $700+/night are entitled whiners when they complain that the associated amenities suck?

No, the people on here whining about this service are. My guess is if you're paying $700/night, $15 is not a big deal to ya.

 

[drizgirl]

How do you know they haven't added more?

The TSA security screening at the airport offers TSA PreCheck for those that want to pay for it. Why not just add more agents?

Because some people are willing to pay to avoid the line.

If you're not. That's fine. Don't. No one is making you buy it.

Maybe they have. But if there's a need for this secondary service, they haven't added enough.

The point is they should have addressed the problem by fixing the existing system instead of adding a second system.

Just my humble opinion. YMMV.

 

[jaklgreen]

Everyone claiming overreacting, or that we don't have to pay for it if we don't like it etc etc are so ignorant it's honestly staggering. I wonder what it's like to live covered in pixie dust 24/7, do you have to reapply after a shower?

Disney has decided that improving the existing experience is no longer an option. They don't care that the quality of service in the parks is getting worse. Instead of upgrading, expanding and fixing the current issues with the park, they decide to squeeze as much money out of guests as they possibly can instead. It's insulting. These are NOT solutions to the problems, they are monetized band aids that should not be tolerated by anyone, even if you wipe your own butt with $100 bills every day. People pay a lot of money just to get into the parks and stay at the resorts, but that's not enough for them. They start to remove experiences and upcharge them instead, essentially devaluing your park ticket while increasing the price.

I am deeply saddened by the amount of people that accept this behaviour in a company that was once the pinnacle of entertainment.

They haven't removed free transportation. And they have been offering this service to celebrities forever. Now that it is available to the masses for a small fee, all of a sudden Disney is behaving badly. You are no longer entertained at the parks? How is this hurting your park experience? And why are you saying that they are not upgrading or expanding? Disney studios is getting 2 new areas, AK is getting Avatarland, they announced that Epcot is next on their list. Everything can not be done instantly. Do you just choose not to see all that they have done and are working on? And as to service, the only difference that I have seen is in how individual people have become so rude and obnoxious now, both ways, guests to cast member and back. This is not a Disney issue, but a society issue. Stop being jerks everyone and you will be amazed at how your perception of customer service changes. I am always polite and friendly to cast members and I very rarely have anything other then great experiences with them.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

No, the people on here whining about this service are. My guess is if you're paying $700/night, $15 is not a big deal to ya.

Ummm, many of us here are the ones paying $700/night. (Not me, the most I payed was $630/night at The Poly in 2006 for a urine stained mattress and moldy wall paper. I have not stayed at a Disney resort since. I haven't bought a Disney park ticket since 2009.)

 

[Mawg]

I would have been happier if Disney had come up with a way for all park hoppers to skip security. It would tell me they are serious about making transportation and logistics easier on all park guests.

 

[21stamps]

So people paying up to $700+/night are entitled whiners when they complain that the associated amenities suck?

It's very rare (in my personal experience) that the busses at Poly and GF are too full. The only time I've seen it is park opening and closing, which is why we took a taxi for DHS in the morning, I took one look at the bus line (which may not even have been majority of DHS travelers) and didn't want to deal. I don't know how the return bus was, I just went ahead and ordered an Uber because kiddo was falling asleep.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

They have not intentionally created a problem. There have always been lines to get in the parks and wait for the bus. Always.
Security is/will be tightening up.

That's a fact of our modern life.

Them offering the ability to skip that mess is a godsend. Don't like it? Don't do it. No one is making you.

Really childish to whine about a new optional service they are offering.

I for one will be partaking in it on our next trip.

They knowingly and willingly refused to increase capacity in line with demand.

They intentionally created this problem specifically to up sell people.

Hurray!!!!

 

[wm49rs]

They knowingly and willingly refused to increase capacity in line with demand.

They intentionally created this problem specifically to up sell people.

Hurray!!!!

And if they were adding busses to help with transportation it would be shouted from on high....

 

[Disneyhead'71]

And if they were adding busses to help with transportation it would be shouted from on high....

Disney knows the bus system is broken. That's why they are adding "Disco" lights.

"Disco" lights fix all broken things at WDW.

 

[jaklgreen]

You're right, and this is a sad statement.

The entry to Epcot via monorail is a classic WDW experience. So well conceived and executed. Then they created that egress ramp from the station which goes on forever. Ultimately, the trip from Tomorrowland down Main Street to the Monorail to TnTC up and down its ramps then wait for the Epcot monorail then down the super-long ramp then into the park is a pretty long walk (independent of the time spent). For my aging parents or for a three-year old, cutting out that traverse would be worth the money. But that's why we no longer park hop. Enjoy each park for each day.

But if I wanted to do MK in the morning and had to rush for a World Showcase reservation at Epcot, I'd do this in a heartbeat if they can work out the logistics.

This is exactly how we think. We love the restaurants at Epcot and eat there for dinner most days. While the monorail itself is fine as a transportation mode, the way they go about getting on and off just stinks. Having to go down then up the ramps at the TTC to change monorails and the ramp at Epcot is painful for someone with any kind of foot, knee, leg or back issues. Not to mention it is a challenge also for people with heart problems or anyone with stamina issues. I know Epcot has the elevator but the TTC does not.

 

[Creathir]

Maybe they have. But if there's a need for this secondary service, they haven't added enough.

The point is they should have addressed the problem by fixing the existing system instead of adding a second system.

Just my humble opinion. YMMV.

This service is not to offset existing traffic.

It's value add. Net new.

We have NEVER been able to switch parks without exiting and reintering the main gate and security.

Yeah sure, I wish it was a monorail or some other transportation besides a bus (steam train would. E pretty sweet) but I'm also realistic.

They are adding a service for those that wish to partake.

Those that don't, don't have to.