To the Contemporary.
Same spot yesterday. We waited for an hour then. Hopefully it will be a shorter fix today!
Same spot yesterday. We waited for an hour then. Hopefully it will be a shorter fix today!
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Express Monorail Green broken down two days in a row going up the hill....
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prberk
Well-Known Member
Did they have to evacuate? Or just wait?
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Its green, breakdowns are to be expected, its a jakey thing.
Yesterday we hopped out of line after 40 minutes and they just started running again about 20 minutes later when we arrived on the ferry. It did back down the hill after 10 minutes and stopped at the bottom of the hill for over 30 minutes. Don't know how they unloaded.
Today, we waited 15 minutes an it got up and running again. They were only running one ferry at the time.
No problems either day leaving.
Today, we waited 15 minutes an it got up and running again. They were only running one ferry at the time.
No problems either day leaving.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
Sounds like green needs to be taken out of service and have its propulsion systems replaced.
If one goes down, the whole loop goes down. So staying away from Green may still leave you in the same place.
Monorail_Red
Well-Known Member
Funny thing is, when I was there (I'm a former pilot) - almost every time Green ran on the Epcot beam, it got towed off at the end of the day! :ROFLOL:
Green can be a good train when it doesn't break down. Some trains like to get certain malfunctions on certain parts of the beamway for some reason nobody knows the answer to. Only problem is where it happens...like Green on the hill...when the computer shuts down you are limited to 20% power...not good to be a fully loaded train stopped on a hill with only 20% power to get moving again...
wayneway
Member
During my last trip...mid may...I saw Monorail green at the Epcot station and it wasn't leaving as planned, they had to run at a very slow speed all the way to the TTC, must be the reduced power mode...see video link below...
http://youtu.be/ro7h9Xm8VFU
http://youtu.be/ro7h9Xm8VFU
Monorail_Red
Well-Known Member
Most likely a door alert. This is just like your "DOOR AJAR" light on the dashboard of your car. Difference on a Monorail is that you can't move with it on unless you override it. When you're overriding it your max speed is 20MPH. But when exiting or entering a station, they do 1-3MPH just because it is a tight squeeze as it is, and if you have a door alert you don't want it to catch anything if it were to open. The door won't open, but that's just the precaution taken as a part of the operational procedures. If somebody is leaning up against a door, it won't open but it might upset one of the door sensors and give the pilot a door alert.
Monorail_Red
Monorail_Red
wayneway
Member
Maybe so, but it did stay in the station for a long time while they were checking something in one of the train sections...then it left slowly with passengers in every section except the one they were checking, they seemed to be looking at the escape hatch area...maybe it was a sensor in the hatch?
Monorail_Red
Well-Known Member
Now that you say that, that's probably exactly what it was. The hatches have sensors just like the doors. If it were a regular door, the pilot can open all the doors and close them all at a station and that will clear a door alert. If it was the hatch, the difference is only a maintenance CM can reset it.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
That must've been one annoying ride for the pilot... Isn't there a loud beeping when the Override button is pressed?
-Rob
Monorail_Red
Well-Known Member
Yep...had do to it for a whole lap one time on Epcot in Coral. That train was in such bad shape when I left from running Epcot only...I can't imagine what it's like now. It saddens me because Coral is always a pleasure to drive aside from the issues caused by the Epcot-only gig.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Yep...had do to it for a whole lap one time on Epcot in Coral. That train was in such bad shape when I left from running Epcot only...I can't imagine what it's like now. It saddens me because Coral is always a pleasure to drive aside from the issues caused by the Epcot-only gig.
Please elaborate.
Monorail_Red
Well-Known Member
A typical day for a train running on the Epcot line logs around 300-350 miles. Then I think that express trains are around 250 and resorts 200 (usually ends up evening out between express and resorts). Not much of a difference, but Coral was supposed to be dressed up as TRON for only a year. Right now it's almost 15 months of Epcot-only. So here's some very rough calculations. These are just mine and I'm sure they're far from accurate to the actual mileage.
So let's say that for the sake of computing an average day for a monorail, we'll use the following numbers:
Epcot: 350 miles per day
Express: 225 miles per day
Resorts: 225 miles per day
That averages out to about 267 miles per day for a train's day of service. So figure 30 days/month (there are a few days a month a train won't run, including Coral when I was there) over the past 14 months.
The trains would have logged around 112,140 over 14 months. But with Coral being Epcot-only, that would have been 147,000 using those calculations. That's an extra 34,860 miles over 14 months. Not much compared to what the trains have logged for mileage over their lifetimes, but you have Coral logging all these extra miles almost non-stop. Coral is the newest of the fleet (it was the last of the Mark VI trains delivered in '93) and I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with the most mileage.
So all-in-all, the more you work something and the more you demand from it, obviously you're going to run into more maintenance issues.
One more thing I want to say.....I can assure that Monorail Coral will in no way, shape, or form create an unsafe situation for the Guests or Cast Members. I don't want this to be misconstrued and end up being a negative strike against the Monorails. Monorails are still (and I believe will forever be) the safest mode of transportation. You are statistically safer onboard a WDW Monorail then standing on the ground.
Monorail_Red
Space Mountain
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All 11.5 of them
