s8film40
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It actually has more to do with how much mold is in the Air Conditioning.
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It actually has more to do with how much mold is in the Air Conditioning.
Figments Friend
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Mmmm yeah...Mono-Mold !
I like smelling that 'unique' scent when a get onboard a Monorial. Not all of them have it, and you really only notice it if the AC is a bit weak.
They should bottle the scent, or better yet, make a Monorail-shaped air freshener so one can have their car smell that way.
Oooo yeah!
Mmmm yeah...Mono-Mold !
I like smelling that 'unique' scent when a get onboard a Monorial. Not all of them have it, and you really only notice it if the AC is a bit weak.
They should bottle the scent, or better yet, make a Monorail-shaped air freshener so one can have their car smell that way.
Oooo yeah!
PhilharMagician
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Yes!
Applying Monorail Red's numbers, the approx mileage on the monorails since put in service would be 1,754,190.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Yes!
Applying Monorail Red's numbers, the approx mileage on the monorails since put in service would be 1,754,190.
Is that each... of for the whole fleet?
I don't feel like pulling out the calculator if you've already done the math! :lol:
That's per monorail, so combined they've put out over 21,000,000 miles. And I realize they're designed for fairly heavy usage, but really, around the 20M mile mark (which would have been sometime around June or July of last year, at the latest), noises should have started about ordering a new set of monorails all around - even if it just amounted to "we'll put in the order when the economy picks up".
PhilharMagician
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Yes, that is each!
I wonder if there is a number that is considered end of life, or is it basically until they just completely fail and parts are not available. I would have to assume tha something has to be in the plans for replacement in the next few years. The 20th anniversary is coming up in 2 years.
s8film40
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The only definitive timeline I have ever heard was from the company that made the composite bodies of the monorails, they claimed in an interview that they would last up to 15 years. As far as parts no longer being available they have already crossed this point. Many of the recent modifications to the trains have resulted from parts that were used being discontinued.
PhilharMagician
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I guess we passed the point of 15 years also. They must be holding up pretty well since some of them are 22 years old at this point. I wonder how much longer they plan on running these? Since it has only been 5 - 6 years since the investment into the new pilot controls I wonder if they will hold off longer.
As far as parts, many thing must have to be custom manufatured which would not be cheap. I wonder if the last monorail (insert new color) will ever be back in service?
Oh, I just wanted to add that the total lifetime miles number that I wrote earlier was using 1993 as a commisioning date. Since some were on line as early as 1989 there mileage could be as much as 2,144,010 miles.
Figments Friend
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So just out of curiousity..since the topic was mentioned....
...any Mono Fans here know the lineup of colors from the oldest to the newest? Anyone recall how the newer trains came online, in what order, replacing what color, until the old fleet was finally completely replaced?
'Teal' may be the newest color, but the original train underneath surely had a start date. Ditto for the 'TRONorail'...which we know is actually Coral in disquise.
Is Red and Black the two oldest, and Lime and Coral the newest?
Thought this would make a interesting list, and a interesting discussion.
So just out of curiousity..since the topic was mentioned....
...any Mono Fans here know the lineup of colors from the oldest to the newest? Anyone recall how the newer trains came online, in what order, replacing what color, until the old fleet was finally completely replaced?
'Teal' may be the newest color, but the original train underneath surely had a start date. Ditto for the 'TRONorail'...which we know is actually Coral in disquise.
Is Red and Black the two oldest, and Lime and Coral the newest?
Thought this would make a interesting list, and a interesting discussion.
peachykeen
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Blue was the first MkVI train to come online. I have the order list somewhere but can't recall off the top of my head. Coral and Lime are the newest, yes, although Teal is the newest "color."
thehowiet
Wilson King of Prussia
I have also wondered the exact same thing. We are now coming up on two years since the incident. I know they had to totally rebuild the two cabs and that something like that takes time, but does it really take that long? It just seems to be taking awhile. I also thought I read somewhere that the 12th train was going to be back in service by the end of 2010.
Have they just thrown in the towel on the 12th train, similar to what they did with Mark IV Gold? I believe Gold never got it's 6th car added because by the time they got to that train they had already decided to order the Mark VIs. I remember seeing a pic of the Mark IVs in the boneyard after they were retired. Sitting right with Gold's 5 cars was a 6th unpainted car.
Also, is the new maintenance spur by the TTC totally finished now? If so, has anyone heard how it is working out and if they've had an opportunity yet to tow a train on the Epcot beam with the new set up?
I'm hopeful it won't be too far off. The Mark IV model was used for 18 years. The Mark VI model has now been running for about 20 years. DL used their Mark V trains for about 20 years.
I'm hoping that the mgmt. team is looking at the new Mark VII models at DL as a prototype and are just waiting to see how they work out there.
s8film40
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It's doubtful it will have anything at all to do with the Mark VII. The Disneyland system is completely different and the trains were manufactured by a different company. Any new trains for WDW will need to work with the existing system and need to be manufactured by Bombardier.
BalooChicago
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They do not need to be made by Bombardier, but it would seem to make sense. Disney could do an "Exteme Makeover" on the current train sets like they did for Disneyland and not involve Bombardier at all.
s8film40
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Bombardier holds all the patents for the monorail, if they wanted another company to build them that company would have to work with Bomabardier to get some sort of licensing deal assuming of course Bomabardier was willing to go that route and not build them themselves. It's also doubtful that any other company would be able to compete with Bombardier since they would then be adding in licensing fees to the cost as well as the fact that Bombardier is already set up to build these trains and is actually building them currently.
PhilharMagician
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I personally do not like the looks of the Mark VII monorails and they would not fit on WDW beams since they are much smaller than the Mark VI monorails. You could put Mark VII inside a Mark VI
montyz81
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I am hopeful that the management would try to keep the same 1971 classic look as they did when they built the Mark VI. The only time they strayed from the specific park look was with the Mark V. I would think that the design would be an evolution of the current design like was done from the Mark III to the Mark VII, and was also done from the Mark IV to Mark VI.