Expedition Everest: The Last of its Kind?

[Kevin_W]

My favorite ride ever was themed on the movie “Tomb Raider”. I’ve still never seen the movie or played the video game.

A good ride is a good ride, period.

Hopefully not the ride they used to have in Kings Island? That was not a great ride.

 

[21stamps]

Hopefully not the ride they used to have in Kings Island? That was not a great ride.

Yes. I loved it!! Imo it was great.

 

[Kevin_W]

Yes. I loved it!! Imo it was great.

To each, their own! It's been 17 years, so my memory is hazy, but I recall enjoying the 2001 Tomb Raider movie.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I sure hope not...the non-IP based rides are what distinguished Disney from all the others since the coaster renaissance began in the later 80’s

 

[21stamps]

To each, their own! It's been 17 years, so my memory is hazy, but I recall enjoying the 2001 Tomb Raider movie.

I just remember flipping around and falling face forward towards fire.. thought it was so much fun because it was “different”. Same reason why I love the “Delirium” Giant Frisbee rides.

I sure hope not...the non-IP based rides are what distinguished Disney from all the others since the coaster renaissance began in the later 80’s

What? No, the themeing is what separates them. Disney doesn’t have the best coasters, they have the best and most elaborate theming.

 

[Professortango1]

Even when it's a film I do like it doesn't always work. When they changed Pirates of the Carribean to be in line with the films it became muddled and the mood was all off. Indiana Jones may be a more popular than Dinosaur, but Dinosaur is the superior version of the same ride system, so obviously the storyline and theming does make a difference.

Uh...what? Dinosaur is superior to IJA? How??

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What? No, the themeing is what separates them. Disney doesn’t have the best coasters, they have the best and most elaborate theming.

Eloborate theming does matter...but you’re arguing a different point.

Pirates, haunted mansion are timeless in a way the frozen boats or guardians coasted never will be. Even avatar is a huge risk.

If the ride is it’s own character, it has a longer shelf life.

Look at two that are technically IP but has its own identity becomes the IP is so outdated: tower and splash. The rides themselves are what people remember...not starlord

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Uh...what? Dinosaur is superior to IJA? How??

I actually like dinosaur better as well...I just don’t like IJA’s layout as much. And I was a huge Indy nuts till he got into Lower orbit in a fridge

 

[WDWTank]

A big budget attraction with no movie tie-in? Sadly not with the current people in charge.

I’ll have control, soon

 

[Professortango1]

I actually like dinosaur better as well...I just don’t like IJA’s layout as much. And I was a huge Indy nuts till he got into Lower orbit in a fridge

Its the same layout. Just you see more set and effects in Indy because it had the bigger budget. And I'm not sure what the second sentence means, but clearly there's a jab at Crystal skull, a film which nobody defends. And being in a fridge to escape an atomic bomb is silly. Kind of like jumping out of a plane on an inflatable raft. Or holding on to a Nazi sub for a long journey underwater. Indy isn't meant to be historical drama, its a B movie serial with an A list mover budget and team.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Its the same layout. Just you see more set and effects in Indy because it had the bigger budget. And I'm not sure what the second sentence means, but clearly there's a jab at Crystal skull, a film which nobody defends. And being in a fridge to escape an atomic bomb is silly. Kind of like jumping out of a plane on an inflatable raft. Or holding on to a Nazi sub for a long journey underwater. Indy isn't meant to be historical drama, its a B movie serial with an A list mover budget and team.

It’s the same TRACK...by layout, I mean the theming around the ride path.

You don’t like the last jedi by chance, do you??

 

[21stamps]

Eloborate theming does matter...but you’re arguing a different point.

Pirates, haunted mansion are timeless in a way the frozen boats or guardians coasted never will be. Even avatar is a huge risk.

If the ride is it’s own character, it has a longer shelf life.

Look at two that are technically IP but has its own identity becomes the IP is so outdated: tower and splash. The rides themselves are what people remember...not starlord

What? A ride is a good ride no matter if the theme is IP based or not IP based, imo.

I don’t even know how this relates to your last post or my response... you said Disney distinguishes themselves because of the coasters.. they don’t, they distinguish themselves because the coasters are heavily themed.. which makes them more immersive, which makes them unique. A western theme or a Snow White theme, they’re both going to be great. The advantage of a movie attachment is that people can even be more immersed in their own minds, because of their own connection to the movie.. it isn’t needed in everything, but it is a draw.

 

[Professortango1]

It’s the same TRACK...by layout, I mean the theming around the ride path.

You don’t like the last jedi by chance, do you??

Last Jedi is an interesting film, but not a good entry into Star Wars IMO. I've only seen it once, so I'm awaiting more views before I can come to a concrete assessment of where I stand on it.

 

[21stamps]

Please don’t turn another thread into a Star Wars debate.. Please.

There are multiple threads full of complaining posts already.. can we keep them in said threads?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Last Jedi is an interesting film, but not a good entry into Star Wars IMO. I've only seen it once, so I'm awaiting more views before I can come to a concrete assessment of where I stand on it.

Good answer

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Please don’t turn another thread into a Star Wars debate.. Please.

There are multiple threads full of complaining posts already.. can we keep them in said threads?

It was a “indicative” question...it was more about the tone of the answer...not the substance

 

[TwilightZone]

CTX was not based on a film.

I think there's enough evidence to show that the Dinosaur movie was in the imagineer's minds when making CTX. They were probably forced to include the iguanodon and carnotaurus by Eisner so it can tie into the film more easily and get that merch money.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think there's enough evidence to show that the Dinosaur movie was in the imagineer's minds when making CTX. They were probably forced to include the iguanodon and carnotaurus by Eisner so it can tie into the film more easily and get that merch money.

One definitely lead to another...but that’s different than Elsa’s non cultural tour of the fjords

 

[Damon7777]

Every land in disneyland is based on one of walt's movies or tv specials. Even rides people don't think are based on IPs, such as matterhorn, are.

If I'm reading your intent correctly, then I'm not giving you that. And if you would have brought up Splash Mountain, then I would not have given you that either due to obvious use vs subtle use of properties.


As for use of properties there is a night to day difference in throwing an Aladdin and his flying carpets in our face vs a Jungle Cruise. One is an overt, shameless IP display which tried to distract guests from what it is: a careless spinner.
The other subtlely references a pre-existing theme, thus demanding real substance.

The concern here, as Kitchandro alludes to, is that Disney can so easily become lazy and lackluster with the product knowing that the packaging(IP) draws attention away from a ride's shortcomings.

 

[FigmentJedi]

CTX was not based on a film.

I think there's enough evidence to show that the Dinosaur movie was in the imagineer's minds when making CTX. They were probably forced to include the iguanodon and carnotaurus by Eisner so it can tie into the film more easily and get that merch money.

They were co-developed together, to such a point that Countdown to Extinction was an early working title for the movie.

Eisner wanted a much more thrilling take on the Dinosaur Safari plans, which lead to the EMV, and he also remembered that Animation had their own Dinosaur film project that was shelved a couple of years earlier. So between cashing in on the dinosaur fever in the wake of Jurassic Park and wanting some synergy going on with the parks, the movie was put back into production to help promote the theme park and Eisner wanted Animation and WDI working in tandem on their respective dinosaur projects, to a point where you see early animation from the movie being used in the preshow . The name change was about removing all doubt of the connection.