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Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
Luckily enough to ride it in A-mode. It literally felt like the Yeti was going to pluck you right out of your seat.
Rode it in A-Mode quite a few times in those early years and I must say I was disappointed, even as a 9-10 yr old. You could only see the Yeti for a second, and you couldn't tell that it was "the largest animatronic ever." It felt like you were really far away from it.
 

Betty_The_Yeti

New Member
All.

Honestly I have more questions then answers on pinpointing what is exactly wrong with the yeti.

The 6-11-2010 Test


For the first time since the yeti was put into B mode we finally have confirmation and proof that they were trying to fix it after June 15th of 2008 (the last documented day on this forum)

But what does this mean? It’s long been debunked that the problem with the Yeti was never the “cracked foundation.” It was the animatronic itself. Now 15 years later we know it’ll never be fixed. Since that’s the case, we as the community invested in this yeti should have more access to videos like these to make up for the 17+ years of a broken animatronic.

Where did these 3 videos come from?





And where can we find more of them? They must have filmed the 2013 testing. And they must have filmed the installation and issues when this all started in 2007-2008.

What I’m trying to get at is where can I find more about the process of finding these “lost media” type videos of the yeti?
 

zemmyz

Active Member
gosh, that 2008 testing video is just phenomenal. They don't even care to get plot screens to work on TBA, the hope is -0%, but man would this be just my white whale to have any form of movement again.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
I know in the past the Yeti would be prominently used on quite a bit of merchandise to tie in with the ride especially in the early years I yield Gad a few shirts with him on it...But, since he's been more myth than Disco has there been any attraction shirts at all lately that show him at all?
 

VicariousCorpse

Well-Known Member
What I’m trying to get at is where can I find more about the process of finding these “lost media” type videos of the yeti?
These videos aren't lost media. They are leaked internal videos never meant for the public. To find more you need to find the original leaker who sent it to Unisounds, but any reputable media won't reveal their sources for many reasons.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
Premium Member
gosh, that 2008 testing video is just phenomenal. They don't even care to get plot screens to work on TBA, the hope is -0%, but man would this be just my white whale to have any form of movement again.
Closest you can get is the website which funny enough still features the travel channel B Roll of the Yeti in action -
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I do wonder how many people over the years have seen this footage and got hyped for the ride ... only to encounter the hairy paperweight we have today
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Replying in a more relevant thread.

Two things are mind boggling to me. First, I don't understand how the structural engineers who designed the Yeti's "skeleton" could get the design wrong. It should have been easy to simulate and test the loads for everything they were designing.
The big reason the figure hasn’t been fixed is because the park and Walt Disney Imagineering each blame the other. It’s not that the engineers didn’t know what would happen but that keeping it going required more maintenance. Parks have operational and maintenance requirements and meeting those is part of designing an attraction. The more frequently something needs to be maintained, the easier access needs to be in order to completely that work. Given that it’s an argument, my guess is that Walt Disney Imagineering delivered a figure that required more maintenance than what they had agreed upon with the park.

Second, I don't understand why they can't design and install structural reinforcements so that it can handle the loads. This shouldn't require complete removal and rebuilding of the figure. Just go under the skin at night for as many nights as it takes to install new and/or additional parts.
The skin of animatronics are usually quite tight. There isn’t usually any room to shove in additional parts.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
Premium Member
Replying in a more relevant thread.


The big reason the figure hasn’t been fixed is because the park and Walt Disney Imagineering each blame the other. It’s not that the engineers didn’t know what would happen but that keeping it going required more maintenance. Parks have operational and maintenance requirements and meeting those is part of designing an attraction. The more frequently something needs to be maintained, the easier access needs to be in order to completely that work. Given that it’s an argument, my guess is that Walt Disney Imagineering delivered a figure that required more maintenance than what they had agreed upon with the park.


The skin of animatronics are usually quite tight. There isn’t usually any room to shove in additional parts.
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Mike S

Well-Known Member
The big reason the figure hasn’t been fixed is because the park and Walt Disney Imagineering each blame the other. It’s not that the engineers didn’t know what would happen but that keeping it going required more maintenance. Parks have operational and maintenance requirements and meeting those is part of designing an attraction. The more frequently something needs to be maintained, the easier access needs to be in order to completely that work. Given that it’s an argument, my guess is that Walt Disney Imagineering delivered a figure that required more maintenance than what they had agreed upon with the park.
If there was a CEO that cared they’d pull an angry dad tone and say “I don’t care who started it, I’ll finish it!!!”
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I've been meaning to post this for quite a while, but just haven't had time. Thanks to a recent reminder from @Master Yoda to try and shed some light on the Yeti debacle....

Ok, so back in September I was at a conference at WDW, and the wife decided to book a Dine With An Imagineer lunch at DHS. I skipped one of my educational sessions to do this, and we ended up with a 2-for-1. The main imagineer was a Show Design and Production manager, who was a DWAI veteran (and most recently involved in the Frozen Ever After project); the other guy was a mechanical engineer in charge of show quality, who was a newbie-in-training, at least when it came to these dinners. He explained to us that it was his job to do periodic "reviews" of the rides, and point out areas where show quality is falling below certain standards. He's also heavily involved in maintaining ride systems and animatronics. It was a fantastic experience, and we learned a lot about how things work behind the scenes, but nearing the end of our time, I (obviously) couldn't resist bringing up the Yeti.

Immediately upon my mentioning the Yeti, I could see that it was an obvious a sore spot for him. He stated that there have been multiple proposals put forth for repairing it, but none of the "big shots" have been on board. As for the specific problem, he mentioned that there are a couple of factors: flaws in the original "design calculations" (these were his words), particularly with regard to operational and maintenance conditions on such a large animatronic, and inability to perform proper maintenance on the Yeti. No mention of "shifting/failed foundations" as is often suggested. As a practicing structural engineer, I wanted to know whether this was the problem, and he indicated that the main issue is the animatronic itself.

The other factor is the ability to perform maintenance on the animatronic. I think this is the source of rumors that they "can't replace /fix it without opening up the mountain" rumors, but it's actually much simpler, and this issue ties into the first. He specifically talked about unanticipated stresses in parts of the animatronic due to lack of maintenance in other parts. If one of the motors in the yeti's elbow wears out or isn't functioning properly, but they continue to operate under those conditions, then higher stresses are transferred to the shoulder and chest, etc. My best guess regarding his comments about "incorrect calculations" is that he was referring to fatigue related problems in the robotic parts, and possibly in other structural supports.

The other major factor is that things have changed dramatically at WDW in the last few years regarding their compliance with OSHA standards for maintenance and fall protection. Any new work done to get the Yeti operational means that they have to update the design to meet these standards, so that ongoing maintenance on the animatronic can be safely performed. This would involve major upgrades to allow compliance with fall protection and other things related to maintenance workers.

It was encouraging at least to see how much it bothered him that it didn't work. He brought up the Universal dig re: their Kong animatronic (it moves...) and said that he and his colleagues all read blogs and other social media comments for research and to pick up on things they miss in their reviews. So, there you have it. Take it for what it's worth, but this guy was no bus driver...;)
From 2016
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
If there was a CEO that cared they’d pull an angry dad tone and say “I don’t care who started it, I’ll finish it!!!”
Right!?

I can follow the reasoning. That the outcome of the complex interface between finance, operations, marketing, guest satisfaction yields that expenditure surpasses revenue.

But by jove, where's your pride? Such a central element of such a marquee attraction, of your flagship resort. I'd fix it and the shareholders be damned. There are impetuses beyond shareholder value, such as not destroying the environment, or respect for employees and communities, or plain simple old fashioned pride in your company or even CEO ego.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Right!?

I can follow the reasoning. That the outcome of the complex interface between finance, operations, marketing, guest satisfaction yields that expenditure surpasses revenue.

But by jove, where's your pride? Such a central element of such a marquee attraction, of your flagship resort. I'd fix it and the shareholders be damned. There are impetuses beyond shareholder value, such as not destroying the environment, or respect for employees and communities, or plain simple old fashioned pride in your company or even CEO ego.
We must remember that Bob’s reaction to the huge success of the Nondescript Roller Coaster Themed Like India or Whatever was to order Walt Disney Imagineering to never do anything like it again.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
The skin of animatronics are usually quite tight. There isn’t usually any room to shove in additional parts.

Given the Yeti's "fur," I would think they could figure out a way to hide new or reinforced parts by making him a little fatter. With the speed that you pass him, I doubt it would be noticeable. It's not like adding an "implant" to Elsa in FEA.
 

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