Expedition Everest drop, in excess of 100ft!

[animal_king1990]

Nah I was j/k about the vomitting thing lol. Drops don't make me sick at all...it's the corkscrews that get me.:hurl: :hurl: :hurl: Well...going upside-down in general I guess.

Everytime I get off of Montu or Kumba I feel like my brain is splashing from side to side in my head. Dueling Dragons probably made me the most sick out of all the coasters I've been on though.

Inversions do tend to make people sick. That's why Disney lays off the loops and corkscrews.

 

[Grantsdale]

Inversions do tend to make people sick. That's why Disney lays off the loops and corkscrews.

Only someone who hasn't been on Mission: Space would say that.

 

[goofyfan13]

The backseat is almost always the most intense seat in the train. Often, parks have different lines for people who want to sit in the front or back. Think about the airtime you can get on EE!

Not all the time, the front seat can be pretty wild too. See as you get pushed more. There are some coasters that I think the front seat is a lot better than the back. RnR is one of them.

 

[Pongo]

Not all the time, the front seat can be pretty wild too. See as you get pushed more. There are some coasters that I think the front seat is a lot better than the back. RnR is one of them.

Well, seeing as the train goes forward AND backward... position in front or back really won't make a different. Unless being in front will make a difference in what you see.

 

[goofyfan13]

Well, seeing as the train goes forward AND backward... position in front or back really won't make a different. Unless being in front will make a difference in what you see.

True, I was just refering to animalking_1990's claim that almost all coasters are more intense in the back seat, which isn't always the case, well I shouldn't really even say that, cause really it all is just a matter of opinion.

 

[Valawen9]

Well, seeing as the train goes forward AND backward... position in front or back really won't make a different. Unless being in front will make a difference in what you see.

That's true...I forgot the train went backwards too:hammer:

 

[animal_king1990]

When it goes backwards, doesn't the front seat get more airtime?

 

[Grantsdale]

When it goes backwards, doesn't the front seat get more airtime?

You just continue to make stuff up, don't you?

There aren't big enough drops in the backward portion for airtime.

 

[The_CEO]

If there were NEGATIVE G's involved yes.

 

[Pongo]

When it goes backwards, doesn't the front seat get more airtime?

All the seats will get the same amount of "airtime". Being in the back just makes the ride jerkier and whips you around because that's how physics works these days.

But airtime... all seats go over the same hump, at the same speed (except for the initial descent, in which case, the front will be going down slowly until the back catches up). Lateral movement is affected by powition, not vertical. The train can whip you to the side, but it can't whip you up because the wheels can't come off the tracks. Besides, you're going to have an individual lap restraint to keep you firmly in the chair.

Also keep in mind: The engine is in the BACK of the train. The Anandapur Rail System is pushed from behind instead of pulled form the front.

 

[animal_king1990]

Also keep in mind: The engine is in the BACK of the train. The Anandapur Rail System is pushed from behind instead of pulled form the front.

Interesting...I never knew that.

 

[Pongo]

Interesting...I never knew that.

Search the site for pictures of the train. It's actually pretty cool.

 

[Jose Eber]

the QUALITY of the weld is of upmost importance factor when looking at variations

to repeat: its not the quality of weld I'm concerned about or interested in.

 

[animal_king1990]

Search the site for pictures of the train. It's actually pretty cool.

You're right. It looks cool.

 

[Woody13]

Its not the weld quality that I'm concerned about, its the basic expansion/contraction you get when you have temperature varriances. Welding is important to keep a track in place and not move (see Chunnel rails -- what would have happened had they not welded the track).

For example, would you think they are going to have a cold room on all night?

What about when the ride was constructed -- were certain elements of the track built during hot parts of the year, then others during a cooler part?

I'm sure Vekoma has thought of this, and if you look at joints in Barnstormer you can see they allow for tolerances. Just curious if these temperature changes a) are important and if so b) what does a coaster manufacturer design into the track to compensate for heat variances.

Expansion and contraction happens all the time day and night -- I'm not concerned about the quality of weld as I'm concerned about the effects of the Florida summer heat outside on the track, rain, the somewhat rapid cooling off through the rain, and the cold room being switched on and off throughout the week. So you have parts outside, parts inside, climate controlled.

I just think it would be interesting to see how they compensated for that if it was a problem (and no one knows this except engineers). The rest of us can guess and surmise.

How would expansion and contraction of steel rails cause a problem?

 

[LSUxStitch]

There are some coasters that I think the front seat is a lot better than the back. RnR is one of them.

My roommate used to work at RnRC when I was on the program and he was telling me it was either the 5-7th seat that has the most force put on the car due to the fact that is the car where the driving force is put on the car.

I enjoy the back seat in most coasters, especially in RnR because you get pulled through the ride and never experience braking in the loops or that last hump you go over before the exit.

 

[Madison]

All the seats will get the same amount of "airtime". But airtime... all seats go over the same hump, at the same speed (except for the initial descent, in which case, the front will be going down slowly until the back catches up).

This is not true, in fact. Due to the force of gravity, the train is accelerating down all hills and, consequent to that, those in the rear of the train pass over the apex of a hill or drop at a higher speed than those in the front.

Similarly, those in the front crest the top of a hill at a higher speed than those in the rear.

"Airtime" is, in reality, centripetal force throwing you away from the downward curve of the track. It is measured as mass*(velocity^2)/radius. For a given mass and radius, an increased velocity will produce a greater force and thus, more 'airtime'.

It is true that all people in the train are traveling the same speed at a given time, however, given that the train covers some length of track, all people are not experiencing the same forces at a given moment.

 

[wannab@dis]

to repeat: its not the quality of weld I'm concerned about or interested in.

ok... :veryconfu

Then maybe you should just let the imagineers worry about the details. I'm sure they have everything covered.

 

[Lee]

All the seats will get the same amount of "airtime". Being in the back just makes the ride jerkier and whips you around because that's how physics works these days.

But airtime... all seats go over the same hump, at the same speed (except for the initial descent, in which case, the front will be going down slowly until the back catches up). Lateral movement is affected by powition, not vertical. The train can whip you to the side, but it can't whip you up because the wheels can't come off the tracks. Besides, you're going to have an individual lap restraint to keep you firmly in the chair.

Also keep in mind: The engine is in the BACK of the train. The Anandapur Rail System is pushed from behind instead of pulled form the front.

Couple points...
-Not all seats get the same airtime. It's a physics thing.

-The same way the ride whips you to the side, it can indeed "whip you up". Same principle involved. Another physics thing.

-The "engines" on the trains neither push or pull any different than any other car.

 

[Jose Eber]

ok... :veryconfu

Then maybe you should just let the imagineers worry about the details. I'm sure they have everything covered.

I agree! They probably do have everything covered!