Expanding the Monorail System

[fabroman]

I know there are already threads about this, but I really think Disney could and should expand the monorail system. Everyone else says money is the big problem, but really? It's DISNEY! They're loaded.
Frankly from my point of view it's a good investment.

Anyone agree or disagree?

 

[brent2124]

If you know there are other threads why didnt you add to them instead of starting another one that will end up the same as all the others:hammer:

 

[fabroman]

B/c i'm a rebel.

No, seriously I just want a fresh start with new opinions, instead of the same ol' thread stalkers posting what they believe.

 

[captainkidd]

Too expensive. Never gonna happen. Not to be rude, but this topic is right up there with "Will they tear down Test Track and put back World of Motion?"

It's a dream. It's never going to happen.

 

[fabroman]

Expensive to what degree?
We're talking about Disney! A global corporation that could possibly start a war if they really wanted.
I would really think that money is no object to them.

 

[brent2124]

Expensive to what degree?
We're talking about Disney! A global corporation that could possibly start a war if they really wanted.
I would really think that money is no object to them.

If you want to know costs use search. Millions per mile. Not to mention intersecting lines, multiple loading docks to be built. More trains would be needed.

IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN! GIVE UP!:hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer::hammer:

 

[sweetpee_1993]

^^^^

Agreed. Not gonna happen. In an ideal world it'd be a nice thing just like having a dome that covers all of WDW to control the climate would be. It'd cost so much that it would be completely stupid for them to even try it. The $$ would be better spent on things that already exist that are in need such as Peter Pan's Flight or the entire Imagination pavilion. Ya know?

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Expensive to what degree?
We're talking about Disney! A global corporation that could possibly start a war if they really wanted.
I would really think that money is no object to them.

Not trying to be mean or anything but if you do more reading and follow what TDO does in general, money is a huge object. The purse strings are tight. Very tight. Disney doesn't have an endless flow of cash. They're a business with budgets same as any. Do some studying. The amount it would take to expand the monorail system is more than most folks can fathom. We're not talking a few million here. We're talking a whooooole lot more than that. It simply isn't realistic. If it was going to be done it would've needed to be in the budgets of the parks and resorts as each were being constructed over the years.

 

[fabroman]

But using the monorails to connect to more places would make such more convience to the parks. Reducing traffic also!

I just don't see why everyone is so negative toward this subject.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

But using the monorails to connect to more places would make such more convience to the parks. Reducing traffic also!

I just don't see why everyone is so negative toward this subject.

It's not that I'm negative. I'd love it. I love staying at the Contemporary for the convenience of the monorail. I'm realistic. I have experience in major construction projects. My family has a lot of experience in projects of this magnitude. If Disney is going to invest that kind of capital into something it would need to be something they would get a return on the investment with. The buses are far less expensive overall. Expanding the monorail system which is something they don't currently charge resort guests for (like they do park admission) makes absolutely no sense because it's not going to generate them the income to pay for itself and they won't save anything by eliminating the bus system with expanding monorails. It makes no sense for them to do it. From a business standpoint it would be a huge mistake. Personally, I love WDW enough to want the powers-that-be to do what's best to keep things on the up-and-up, not lose them major money. Loss will be recouped somewhere. I don't want quality compromised by something like that.

 

[SeaCastle]

 

[Epic Epcot]

Expensive to what degree?
We're talking about Disney! A global corporation that could possibly start a war if they really wanted.
I would really think that money is no object to them.

That wouldn't explain TDO's actions

Believe me, we'd all LOVE to see a resort-wide monorail system, but when you take into account that it costs $300+ million dollars per mile, the fact that the monorail generates no profits, and the bad shape of the economy it becomes clear that there won't be a monorail expansion any time soon. It's almost three-and-a-half from the TTC monorail station to the entrance of DHS and DAK in a straight line (not including any other stops at resorts or DTD), which would mean a monorail expansion would cost at least $1.8 billion; that figure doesn't take into account any curves that could add length, the cost of new monorails or the cost of building new stations.

 

[Testtrack321]

If Millions per mile.

Last I heard, without trains, around $110 million per mile.

 

[DDEPILLO]

money is an object to the Disney suits that is why you
will never see a monorail expansion

Expensive to what degree?
We're talking about Disney! A global corporation that could possibly start a war if they really wanted.
I would really think that money is no object to them.

 

[Optimus Mouse]

but when you take into account that it costs $300+ million dollars per mile,

While I'm trying hard to stay out of the "will they do it" portion of this debate, I'm curious to know where this number comes from. While I may be comparing apples to oranges, the new light-rail system that was approved by Florida votes a couple years ago had a price tag of around $30 million per mile. While it's not an elevated system, I can't imagine that adding a 20 foot elevation increases the price-tag by a factor of ten. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong though I guess.

 

[HouCuseChickie]

Believe me, we'd all LOVE to see a resort-wide monorail system, but when you take into account that it costs $300+ million dollars per mile, the fact that the monorail generates no profits, and the bad shape of the economy it becomes clear that there won't be a monorail expansion any time soon.

As deep as Disney's pockets may seem, you can't justify the cost if there'd be no significant profit from the project. It actually might do more monetary harm than good. Disney prices go up each year, and a project of this size would surely mean drastically increased costs passed on to park/resort guests. Disney is hardly a cheap destination...so, as neat as it would be to have a Disney wide monorail- I certainly don't want to be paying for it (or choosing a different vacation b/c the price tag is too high).

 

[wizards8507]

As deep as Disney's pockets may seem, you can't justify the cost if there'd be no significant profit from the project. It actually might do more monetary harm than good. Disney prices go up each year, and a project of this size would surely mean drastically increased costs passed on to park/resort guests. Disney is hardly a cheap destination...so, as neat as it would be to have a Disney wide monorail- I certainly don't want to be paying for it (or choosing a different vacation b/c the price tag is too high).

FINALLY, someone else on these boards who appears to understand the basic principles of "how a business works."

 

[Rob562]

Until it becomes economically cheaper to build and operate an expanded monorail (or other mass-transit) system than it is to operate the fleet of buses on-property, you won't see it happen. It's as simple as that.

-Rob

 

[Kobe!!]

It would be Disney's loss IMO to build more on the monorail. How would they make money on people staying off property parking their cars? :shrug:

 

[Korfar]

While I understand it is cost prohibitive to extend the monorail lines I think it would be great if they ran lines to DHS and AK. It doesn't need to connect anymore resorts but if it connected all the main parks that would be great. Epcot could be the transfer station to get to MK. I certainly would be a massive understaking on the Disney budget so I agree with every one that it won't happen unless attendence takes off more than they ever imagined.