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Error in Famous Inventor Circles on Epcot Sidewalk
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TheOneVader
Well-Known Member
ogryn said:
That's exactly what I was going to say. 12pm is not both noon and midnight, although I do think they should've labelled it 12 midnight, which would be more accurate, even though in a technical sense it's still wrong. The whole point of keeping track of time is so you know when things are happening, but if one thing could mean 12hrs of difference, then that kinda defies the whole logic of keeping track of time, now doesn't it? Even though the 12-hour time system is completely and technically wrong, 12pm is always reguarded as noon. Yes, it is sometimes confused as midnight, but it is not.
Woody13
New Member
Twelve midnight A.M. and twelve midnight P.M., or 00:00 A.M. and 00:00 P.M., mean nothing at all. They are simply the midpoints that divide the day into two equal halves.ogryn said:
Each and every day begins exactly at midnight, and each A.M. begins precisely thereafter. Similarly, each P.M. begins immediately after noon. No meaning can be assigned to 12:00 A.M. (00:00 A.M.), or to 12:00 P.M. (00:00 P.M.). They are merely reference points meant to simplify timetables for us.
Along the same line, the Universal Day, established by the International Convention in 1884 in Washington, D.C., U.S.A., operates according to World Time, or Universal Time at Greenwich, England. The logic regarding Midnight and Noon also applies to Greenwich Mean Time, commonly referred to as GMT or Zulu time; Midnight and Noon represent markers, or "page breaks" in the day and in the night, and may be represented by 00:00 o’clock.
Greenwich, England also holds the distinction of being at the point of zero longitude, where East meets West. The 1884 international agreement also recognized this line of zero degrees longitude as the prime meridian, a point from which all points on the earth’s surface are measured.
For your information, here's the official explanation from the National Institute of Standards and Technology, Time & Frequency Division:
http://tf.nist.gov/general/misc.htm#Anchor-57026
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Dr.Seeker
Member
Woody13 said:
Uh, isn't that what all time is? All we're saying is that we were taught that 12AM is midnight and 12PM is midday, and yes there is a difference-At 12AM it's dark outside.
PM means afternoon/evening which begins at midday. Whereas AM means morning and begins with midnight.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
well, that seals the deal. i could definately fit in down at WDW.
i screw up military time always, understand the concept, i know how it works....... it is just one of those things i have to count on my hand for accurracy
and i could definately fit in with the misspelled words and grammar (yes, grammar with an "a") im the worst speller............... i hate the comma (sorry sirnim) and i hate to waste time and push the shift button while typing to capitalize a word............ please forgive me and love me for who i am.
BTW, way to be on your toes with the shackley/ shockley thing
i screw up military time always, understand the concept, i know how it works....... it is just one of those things i have to count on my hand for accurracy
and i could definately fit in with the misspelled words and grammar (yes, grammar with an "a") im the worst speller............... i hate the comma (sorry sirnim) and i hate to waste time and push the shift button while typing to capitalize a word............ please forgive me and love me for who i am.
BTW, way to be on your toes with the shackley/ shockley thing
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
ogryn said:
Maybe it should have read 7:00 a.m. - 11:59 p.m. Or 7:00 a.m.-12:01 a.m.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
i have always found it less confusing (an not having to think about it) if the sign read 7:00am to MidnightVernonpush said:
AngryEyes
Well-Known Member
Woody13 said:
"Precisely thereafter" begins at (before, actually, but for simplicity) 12:00:00.01 (noon or midnight). So, on every wristwatch in the world, 12:00 noon is PM and 12:00 midnight is AM, with the exception of an instant that is gone before we even realize it was here.
AM and PM are certainly arbitrary designations, but how does that article support the statement that 12AM and 12PM are interchangeable?
yellowrocket
Active Member
Which brings me to another subject... changing my watch everytime I walk through a different country at Epcot is so time consuming. I mean.. seriously! What time exactly IS illuminations... depends on what friggin' country you're in! Prime Meridian. Equator! Greenwchich Mean Time! They should pick a time and stick with it!
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DigitalDisney
New Member
Yes, they should have said 7:00am - 11:59pm. Then there would be no doubt.
And Woody, if you think 12:00AM == 12:00PM, then you should step outside at noon and midnight and compare and contrast the two. What makes 12 so special? Does 530AM == 530PM? And does this mean that I can start celebrating New Year's early this time around, since it occurs at 12:00? (kidding)
And Woody, if you think 12:00AM == 12:00PM, then you should step outside at noon and midnight and compare and contrast the two. What makes 12 so special? Does 530AM == 530PM? And does this mean that I can start celebrating New Year's early this time around, since it occurs at 12:00? (kidding)
Woody13
New Member
If you say 12 p.m. you are really saying the 12 o'clock time after midday which would translate to midnight.DigitalDisney said:
If you say 12 a.m. you are really saying the 12 o'clock time before midday which would translate to the midnight of last night.
See the confusion? A strict interpretation suggests that 12:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. both mean midnight as this is the only twelve o'clock time that occurs both before or after noon.
Irrawaddy Erik
Well-Known Member
There have been tons of pins and merchandise that have errors on them.... I know the older WDW screensaver had a few errors. The most recent safari pin to come out is spelled "Kilamanjaro Safaris" rather than the correct "Kilimanjaro Safaris." It's the pin with Mickey and Minnie in a forward facing safari truck with animals all around them.
SirNim
Well-Known Member
Speaking of budding chronology scientists, it is my life's goal to become the United States Naval Observatory Master Clock voice announcer.
("At the tone, it is 9:32:15 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!> "At the tone, it is 9:32:30 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!> "United States Naval Observatory Master Clock. At the tone, it is 9:32:45 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!>)
("At the tone, it is 9:32:15 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!> "At the tone, it is 9:32:30 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!> "United States Naval Observatory Master Clock. At the tone, it is 9:32:45 Eastern Daylight Time"... <gong!>)
Dizknee_Phreek
Well-Known Member
LMAO! Awesome! :lol:yellowrocket said:
Good luck with that, Nimmy! :animwink:SirNim said:
As for spelling and punctuation mistakes in the World, my sister and I noticed one while waiting for the boat to MGM at Boardwalk. Anyone else ever notice the sign "Seashore Sweets' "? What's the apostrophe at the end all about? I don't think multiple sweets are in possession of anything, are they? :veryconfu