Figments enduring popularity is not based off the irritating, generic creature that currently exists in the worst dark ride ever built at Disney World. It’s a holdover from the Dream Finder version. The marketing and use of the character outside of the pavilion makes that clear.
Why in Heaven’s name would you take hope from the fact that Disney is going to remove incredibly high-profile and expensive structures that were part of the CURRENT masterplan to “save”Epcot? It’s evidence that this makeover has been even more dysfunctional and counter-productive then even the biggest naysayer on these boards could have imagined. The scale of the debacle is staggering - we’ve watched it unfold step-by-step, and as such have lost track of the sheer scope of the disaster. It’s difficult to imagine any other theme park surviving such a costly, complete failure.
It won't ever be fixed, come on now. It'll be a gate to sell alcohol during festivals in WS with a perpetually incoherent area that used to be the best idea in theme park history that helps keep those festival people busy (but not for long lest they stop spending).
You mean 89? Dream finder was already gone in 99
I wasn't there in 89. 1986, then 95 and annually thereafter. So, maybe 95, judging by the haircut.
Which connects to what? There is no space land. World Discovery is not exclusively space.
Does MK have a villains land or hero’s land? Did MGM have a television land?
Well now that you mention it, they do have two space pavilions on one side and two earth pavilions on the other side (plus the moana thing). And spaceship earth in the middle. So having space and earth side of the parking lot make absolute sense!
This just reinforces what we've been saying for years. They simply don't get it.
I've got a few ways they could do this:
Look no further than the Disneyland 100 banners for evidence that you can’t infer that there’s any forethought (or a second set of eyes) when it comes to signage choices
It’s not about Hei-Hei.
I can name every country in the world on a map, identify every flag, capital, a major geographic features. I’m not the norm, I’m the exception.Really??
Yeah, those are all very similar.
-Mexico (flag with Miguel in his Marachi outfit in the foreground)
While I agree this would be infinitely better I think the outcry among fans would be just as loud. For hardcore fans any IP in Epcot is totally unacceptable, Disney knows this so theres not much reason for Disney to try to please them, it’s easier to just just make the casual fans happy because there’s nothing they can do to satisfy the hardcores. The casual fans will think these signs are cute, Disney wins.
There aren’t more then a handful of Epcot fans who object to IP inclusion in the park. The idea that IP inclusion itself is a major cause of contention is usually put forward by posters trying to dismiss all criticisms of Epcot. The problem is that, as with so much else at Epcot, the use of IPs has been directionless, unfocused, cheap, and unimaginative. IP inclusion could have been joined to edutainment to form a coherent direction for the park. Instead it’s been used as a shabby band-aid that reinforces all of the company’s worst impulses. These signs are a perfect, if minor, example of the thoughtless, slapdash use of IPs.
Exactly this. IP in Epcot isn't exactly new. When I was growing up in the 90s, there were already characters in Epcot...they were just dressed in culturally representative clothing (or "futuristic" clothing in the case of Future World). I had zero problem with it. What I do have a problem with is them shoving IP in where it doesn't belong with, at best, a loose explanation...at worst no explanation...and assuming we'll buy into it. Yes, us "legacy" fans have high expectations. But why? Because Disney set those expectations years ago. I feel the reason we get so upset with seemingly lazy updates is because we know what they're capable of. And it's frustrating when something you love and admire doesn't live up to the example it set for itself. It seems any more for every one thing they get right, they get 3 things wrong. The clever, small details is one reason we all fell in love with Disney and what made them stand out from the competition. It's sad to see the small details don't mean as much to them anymore.
