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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
It would be nice if all the pathways had subtle markers that pointed the direction you should be going, whether it be pavers or the spacings in cement. Just a herringbone pattern to coax people into aisles...
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
I have joked about it for yeas that they need to paint lines on the ground. 2 for each direction walking(1 fast and 1 slow walkers) and a special lane for strollers and ECV/wheelchairs. The worst part about walking around world showcase is the groups of people that just stop right in the middle to have a chat. Why can't they pull off to the side somewhere? I think cast members should be able to ask those groups to stop impeding traffic flow and move to the side to talk.
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
It's entirely disappointing that congestion in the parks has gotten to the point where a discussion on "traffic lanes" is even reasonable. Again, I highly doubt the creators/designers ever intended for these places to be experienced either body-to-body or between painted yellow lines. The obvious suggests that capacities are set too high, though Disney will not address this for equally obvious reasons :greedy:. What makes sense however (and however unpopular), is address the issue in the same way these problems are dealt with in other industries -supply and demand. I hate to say it, but the way to fix this by financially feasible methods is through pricing.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Is there a culture where they walk and drive on different sides of the road?

If you're walking on a road you should always walk towards the traffic, so you can see it coming. That's what I was taught from a very young age when visiting my grandparents who lived out in the country where there were no pavements.
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
Is there a culture where they walk and drive on different sides of the road?


I think what they meant is, WDW has a lot of non-US guests. In the US people drive on the right side of the road. You get conditioned by that and tend to walk toward the right as well (on a sidewalk or non-roadway, we are not talking about walking along a road and facing traffic for safety).

Much of the rest of the world drives on the left, and by extension, walks on the left.

When you have half of your guests conditioned to walk to the right, and the other half to walk to the left, you get the chicken dance when two people meet, one goes left the other goes right, then to fix it, they switch, and then they both sort of laugh awkwardly and move around each other

Of course this theory does not address the people who tend to walk in a a sine wave.
 

Po'Rich

Well-Known Member
I think what they meant is, WDW has a lot of non-US guests. In the US people drive on the right side of the road. You get conditioned by that and tend to walk toward the right as well (on a sidewalk or non-roadway, we are not talking about walking along a road and facing traffic for safety).

Much of the rest of the world drives on the left, and by extension, walks on the left.

When you have half of your guests conditioned to walk to the right, and the other half to walk to the left, you get the chicken dance when two people meet, one goes left the other goes right, then to fix it, they switch, and then they both sort of laugh awkwardly and move around each other

Of course this theory does not address the people who tend to walk in a a sine wave.
I know. I guess my snarky font wasn't working.
 

MAGICFLOP

Well-Known Member
This is a pointless thread. The problem is not the system (or lack of), its people themselves. People lack common social etiquette, ie. they cut in front of you as you are going with the flow only to stop when they are right in front of you.

Even if they set up walking lanes etc. people lack the etiquette to follow it. You just must expect to get run into, and have your feet stepped on, until you leave the park and the can cut you off with their car.
 

SteveAZee

Premium Member
It would be nice if all the pathways had subtle markers that pointed the direction you should be going, whether it be pavers or the spacings in cement. Just a herringbone pattern to coax people into aisles...
Yes, for a company known for designing with an eye toward crowd control...
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
It's entirely disappointing that congestion in the parks has gotten to the point where a discussion on "traffic lanes" is even reasonable. Again, I highly doubt the creators/designers ever intended for these places to be experienced either body-to-body or between painted yellow lines. The obvious suggests that capacities are set too high, though Disney will not address this for equally obvious reasons :greedy:. What makes sense however (and however unpopular), is address the issue in the same way these problems are dealt with in other industries -supply and demand. I hate to say it, but the way to fix this by financially feasible methods is through pricing.
You mean raise the price so high that only the 1% can afford to go?
 

POLY LOVER

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Yes, for a company known for designing with an eye toward crowd control...

I do remember the days when people would commend how Disney controlled crowds and moved people with ease. I believe it can be done, someone mentioned as they add kiosks and reduce the walking foot print it squeezes the available walking area. People are part of the problem too, but if you are going to a kiosk to the left or right you are between a rock and a hard place. If you go left or right you cut someone off, if you stop and wait for an opening to cross you create a back up. No matter what you do you are creating an issue the way that WS is laid out now.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Hyperbole much? See: reductio ad absurdum.

Appeal to the extreme notwithstanding, this is economics 101.
What the hell are you talking about? Answer the question with an answer instead of snobbish snark. Are you saying that you want Disney to raise prices so that only people of your income level can afford it?
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
What the hell are you talking about? Answer the question with an answer instead of snobbish snark. Are you saying that you want Disney to raise prices so that only people of your income level can afford it?

You're one of those who believes that when the price of gas/petrol increases suddenly, it's some sort of conspiracy, aren't you?

I really don't know if you're choosing to be intentionally obtuse or you really don't understand, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for conversations' sake. First, we each have no idea as to the income level of the other. Why you would assume as much is beyond me. Prices are indiscriminate -supply and demand is just how the world works and in no way does it represent an agenda to exclude anyone, from anything. In this case, Disney has a finite product to sell (one which they are actually consistently overselling), due to demand. In every industry on this planet I can think of, prices adjust accordingly. Whether you believe it or not, the sort of price increase I suggested would definitely effect us. The other problem with your "question" is that I think it's an enormous exaggeration. I'm just going to guess that when I began to visit WDW in the early 80's, the costs involved were a higher percentage of annual household income versus what they are today.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
You're one of those who believes that when the price of gas/petrol increases suddenly, it's some sort of conspiracy, aren't you?

I really don't know if you're choosing to be intentionally obtuse or you really don't understand, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for conversations' sake. First, we each have no idea as to the income level of the other. Why you would assume as much is beyond me. Prices are indiscriminate -supply and demand is just how the world works and in no way does it represent an agenda to exclude anyone, from anything. In this case, Disney has a finite product to sell (one which they are actually consistently overselling), due to demand. In every industry on this planet I can think of, prices adjust accordingly. Whether you believe it or not, the sort of price increase I suggested would definitely effect us. The other problem with your "question" is that I think it's an enormous exaggeration. I'm just going to guess that when I began to visit WDW in the early 80's, the costs involved were a higher percentage of annual household income versus what they are today.
Apparently you know how to do a whole lot of condescending up there on your high horse but you don't know how to answer a simple question. Again, are you saying that you want Disney to raise prices to a point where only you and those like you can afford it?
 

OneofThree

Well-Known Member
Apparently you know how to do a whole lot of condescending up there on your high horse but you don't know how to answer a simple question. Again, are you saying that you want Disney to raise prices to a point where only you and those like you can afford it?

Now I'm sure of it -you're just ignorant. Shame on me for taking the time. Have a great day.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Now I'm sure of it -you're just ignorant. Shame on me for taking the time. Have a great day.
So you're the type of person who insults someone and then wishes them a nice day? I could have guessed that from your attitude.

Your own ignorance is surpassed only by your arrogance.

And you still are totally incapable of answering a simple question. But I've got your number, so no worries.
 

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