jloucks
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You buy 2 carafes of wine @ Marrakesh and chug them right quick. Really mega buzz for under $30.
Not that I do that every night.
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Not that I do that every night.
jloucks
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That's an odd combo of opinions. Admirable, but I'd have to really work to jam them together.
If I find something disgusting, it is pretty much hard to ignore.
Nottamus
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We still go to F&W...in fact, we will be there this weekend. I have seen some pretty bad behavior there at times. Does it discourage me from going, no. I go to enjoy the booths, the food, the rides, and a few drinks myself. (not to get drunk)...and those bad behavior people cross my path for just a few minutes. Then they are gone.
If people want to ruin their own vacations, that's up to them....I will still have the good time I set out to do.
If people want to ruin their own vacations, that's up to them....I will still have the good time I set out to do.
Smiley/OCD
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Sadly, many of them (not ALL) are local WT there for the day or weekend...I am an NFL season ticket holder...it boggles my mind that there are MANY "fans" that tailgate before the game so they come in sloshed, and then proceed to drink about 10 beers each at an average of $12 bucks a beer...You know that Christmas song," The 12 Pains of Christmas"?...the guy with the Archie Bunker voice sayin' "Hangovers"? That's it in a nutshell...
DisneyDoctor
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I’ve spent thousands of dollars on the vacation. Why would let something so trivial as drunkards walking around ruin my trip?
MattC
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I have always wondered the same thing.
DisneyGigi
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I love F & W- but not at night. If you go during the day there are less trashed people. I like to enjoy a few drinks but do not get hammered like some people do. It is obnoxious as heck. Weekend nights are the worst.
Phonedave
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I have been to F&W many times. Most of those times are Thursday - Sunday. That just happens to be when we can get away.
I have seen, at times, drunken people behaving inappropriately at F&W.
I myself have also been in a condition at F&W where I would not drive a motor vehicle (however, I have never behaved inappropriately).
I have also seen drunken people on WDW property not during F&W (the guy on the bus from MK to SSR one June night, sitting in the back, vaping, and lifting up his shirt to massage his nipples was one such winner).
I have also seen non-drunk people behaving badly at WDW, and not just at F&W.
The point is, you may see more alcohol consumption at F&W and the resultant inebriated behavior than you normally do throughout WDW, and there is no excuse for it. But it not as if the entire WS is filled with passed out drunks in the gutter, not is it as if the rest of WDW is some wonderful place where nobody is loud, obnoxious, or disrespectful of other people.
I have seen, at times, drunken people behaving inappropriately at F&W.
I myself have also been in a condition at F&W where I would not drive a motor vehicle (however, I have never behaved inappropriately).
I have also seen drunken people on WDW property not during F&W (the guy on the bus from MK to SSR one June night, sitting in the back, vaping, and lifting up his shirt to massage his nipples was one such winner).
I have also seen non-drunk people behaving badly at WDW, and not just at F&W.
The point is, you may see more alcohol consumption at F&W and the resultant inebriated behavior than you normally do throughout WDW, and there is no excuse for it. But it not as if the entire WS is filled with passed out drunks in the gutter, not is it as if the rest of WDW is some wonderful place where nobody is loud, obnoxious, or disrespectful of other people.
I AGREE WITH YOU!
We were there yesterday at the end of a 6 day vacation and we always stay out of EPCOT on Saturdays and Sundays because of (1) It gets much more crowded because of locals visiting on the weekends and (2) "Some" of the locals are as you described drinking way too much.
Everyone can have fun - but it gets bad when we are online to see Soarin, Test Track or the one that gets really bad - The Three Caballeros in Mexico and people are dropping drinks on the floor or just making a nuisance of themselves or worse - really cursing and screaming because they are so drunk around my 6 year old.
My wife asked if people are ever denied drinks or if they get very out of control escorted from the park and I said I didn't know...
But because a lot of the security guards seem to be a bit older than the regular police force - perhaps retired cops - I would be concerned about them trying to remove a drunk person against their will - especially because most of the trouble makers come in groups....not just one guy drinking by himself.
Just one more thing that shows either Disney is becoming less and less family oriented - remember when alcohol was not allowed at all.....or maybe just a downward trend of societal manners....
We were there yesterday at the end of a 6 day vacation and we always stay out of EPCOT on Saturdays and Sundays because of (1) It gets much more crowded because of locals visiting on the weekends and (2) "Some" of the locals are as you described drinking way too much.
Everyone can have fun - but it gets bad when we are online to see Soarin, Test Track or the one that gets really bad - The Three Caballeros in Mexico and people are dropping drinks on the floor or just making a nuisance of themselves or worse - really cursing and screaming because they are so drunk around my 6 year old.
My wife asked if people are ever denied drinks or if they get very out of control escorted from the park and I said I didn't know...
But because a lot of the security guards seem to be a bit older than the regular police force - perhaps retired cops - I would be concerned about them trying to remove a drunk person against their will - especially because most of the trouble makers come in groups....not just one guy drinking by himself.
Just one more thing that shows either Disney is becoming less and less family oriented - remember when alcohol was not allowed at all.....or maybe just a downward trend of societal manners....
Minthorne
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Phonedave
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Honestly, that is pretty close. From the conversation he was having with the rest of his inebriated group, they were at at Luau at the Poly, and went over the MK bus stop to get a bus back to SSR.
That's fine but as someone who has been more times than I can count, I've never once seen an issue... I could give a list of 1000 of things that people do that make the experience worse... I personally don't like getting run over by people with scouters or parents that use their strollers as rams...
JIMINYCR
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The drinking abuse and obnoxious behavior has increased over the years as more people have the options of trying so many more varieties of drinks and its gone from tasting the differing selections to being a game of drinking as many as you can drink around the world. Park security should be more alert to how its affecting other guests and not let the abusers get away with it. Personally Ive seen far less incidents of bad behavior that others have reported, but its become more apparent.
Minthorne
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I've definitely seen the range from a fun person with a little buzz to the completely obnoxious drunk. Fortunately (or not?) no one has been lifting their shirt for me though. But I totally agree that it isn't necessarily F&W then brings out the crazy. Last week some drunk fools were throwing cans a beer at the Red Sox players in the championship parade.
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Mickey5150
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Not quite that bad but I've seen threads like this make Food and Wine seem like a dirty nightclub in a bad neighborhood and I just want people to know it's not. I don't want someone to decide not to try F&W because they read about how evil it is and didn't see the good.
jloucks
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Oh wow, this is pretty good. I find drunk people amusing for the most part, and this would have been a keeper.
Crass behavior is by no means the exclusive domain of inebriated people. Not by a long shot.
Horizons '83
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You the great defender of the Drunks!
MickeyLuv'r
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Ideally, I'd like to think most of us can sense hyperbole when we read it. (Though to be honest, these days I'm not quite as confident on that front as I once was.)
I haven't been to F&W for some time, but I didn't really care for what I saw the last time I did. Alas, it wasn't just the drinking, I just wasn't very impressed by any of it. I'm lucky, I suppose, that I don't have to go all the way to Epcot to get a Belgian waffle or a spinach pie. My local mall food court has excellent versions of both, with shorter lines, and better prices/portion sizes. (Though technically, it is now called a food "hall" instead of a food "court." I guess "hall" sounds more upscale to some folks.)
For that matter, I don't generally frequent dirty nightclubs either.
What I can say is that I didn't really care to see the impact that F&W had on the vibe of Epcot, and that my opinion should be just as valid as those who say they like F&W.
My opinion doesn't invalidate your opinion. Nor does yours invalidate mine. I'd like to think people read these boards to hear different views, not just one side or the other.
Smiley/OCD
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No one is saying NOT to go...read more carefully...what most on here are saying (including me) is that the problems SEEM to happen at the WS on weekends and if you are there for the week, it might be better to skip WS on those days.
Florida law allows, actually requires if I remember, establishments serving alcohol to refuse to serve an intoxicated guest. I believe the establishment can lose its liquor license and face prosecution if it can be proven it continued to serve an inebriated guest and that guest got in a motor vehicle and injured/killed someone.
And yes, Disney security will happily escort drunk, out of control guests out of the parks and into the hands of OCSO. I've seen it done.
Bus driver told me of an incident he was involved in handling. Two different parties, most of the members drunk, got into a fight...and it wasn't a shouting match. Both Disney security and OCSO responded. OCSO hauled them away and by the time they were released, Disney had packed their bags, cancelled the remainder of their resort reservation and handed each person that wonderful yellow piece of paper.