DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

KDM31091

KDM31091

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celluloid said:
It was also the last major E ticket DL has gotten before rise.Fairly iconic and arguably the most thrilling ride in the park with the IP to assist. After Indy and before Rise did not really have much on that scale at Disneyland proper.
Nothing at DCA pre cars was going to move Indy much.
Dino was Def in WDWs top ten for years. Promotion and fan. Everest and Soarin in the early 2000s to 2005 started to change that list.
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Exactly. Dinosaur is/was very popular. They just never gave it the love it deserved. It's an iconic and popular theme that if executed well/updated, would be very very popular. They just don't want to put that kind of effort in unfortunately and rather just slap an IP in. *

*Yes, technically the Dinosaur attraction is sort of IP, since it ties into the movie, but the connection is very loose and doesn't affect the story any. It could be a generic Iguanadon rather than the one from the movie and it would make no difference.
 
KDM31091

KDM31091

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RKpb said:
I'm probably the minority on this but I just don't get the Indy ride. I rode it a few times at Disneyland and its just a dark ride with lights and noise, sorry I just don't get it and how this somehow equates to the Movie theme; and wasn't really a great overall thrill ride anyway. It's hard to me to understand how this is anywhere near being a popular ride worth spending dollars to duplicate. The current dino ride kills the Indy ride IMO.
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Not to mention comparing popularity at DL isn't apples to apples. Indy at DL is basically one of the only real thrill rides in the park since all their coasters are quite tame by thrillseeker standards. So of course it's popular. Not necessarily just because it's Indy, but because it's a more aggressive ride to balance out the many calm ones.

I don't dislike Indiana Jones, but it feels like a franchise whose popularity has peaked, so it seems rather odd to be bringing in a brand new attraction based on it at this point. 20 years ago, sure.
 
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celluloid

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KDM31091 said:
I don't dislike Indiana Jones, but it feels like a franchise whose popularity has peaked, so it seems rather odd to be bringing in a brand new attraction based on it at this point. 20 years ago, sure.
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I will be completely honest. While it is a good ride. I was dissapointed when I finally rode in 2013. I guess decades of hype would do that.

When I was fortunate enough to go to Tokyo Disney Resort last year, I enjoyed their version much more. I thought the execution was better and the effects that were there were better maintained.

Your final point is very valid here. They were expecting Dial of Destiny was going to be a hit. The thing failed harshly for its budget and it is awkward timing.
 
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KDM31091 said:
I don't dislike Indiana Jones, but it feels like a franchise whose popularity has peaked, so it seems rather odd to be bringing in a brand new attraction based on it at this point. 20 years ago, sure.
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With that logic, should we avoid creating any rides based off characters or films that arent currently trending?
The Muppets aren't particularly popular right now either—should we completely disregard them? I love Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, even though Snow White isn't very relevant in today's pop culture. Still, the ride is fantastic and a lot of fun. I believe that regardless of the age of the IP, if a ride is well-designed and features beloved characters, its peaked popularity shouldn't matter. There are many iconic Disney characters that may not be trending at the moment but still deserve an amazing ride experience.

I for one would love to see new rides at WDW based on The Jungle Book, Mary Poppins, and Roger Rabbit, just to name a few. Just because those films are older and may not be as relevant today as they once were doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a place in the park.
 
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TrainsOfDisney said:
I highly doubt the physical effects that make Indiana jones will be included. The real fire, the fog, the “moving backwards” illusion, etc.

I wonder if we will even get the rolling boulder.
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I'm fairly certain this ride is supposed to be something new, given the focus around Mayan ruins and a mythical creature. My bet is something very closely resembling a dinosaur.
 
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DarkMetroid567

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celluloid said:
I will be completely honest. While it is a good ride. I was dissapointed when I finally rode in 2013. I guess decades of hype would do that.

When I was fortunate enough to go to Tokyo Disney Resort last year, I enjoyed their version much more. I thought the execution was better and the effects that were there were better maintained.
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Hard disagree, while the queue is indeed nicer the main showroom is darker and just generally less impressive. I thought the TDS version felt like a downgrade when I first rode in 2019 and had the same opinion last month.
 
Karakasa

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With all this talk of potential closure dates... Obviously there are no guarantees until Disney says something, but insiders: is there a chance Dinosaur might still be open in early 2025? Like, Jan-Feb? Was thinking of making one last one-last-trip; don't wanna buy tickets and book flights/hotel only to find out "surprise, it's closing January 2".
TrainsOfDisney said:
I highly doubt the physical effects that make Indiana jones will be included. The real fire, the fog, the “moving backwards” illusion, etc.

I wonder if we will even get the rolling boulder.
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Leapfrogging off this post: I think people are assuming it's gonna end up being a clone of DL/TDS, but given there are apparently aspects of the way the ride is built that would make a "mirror" 1:1 clone impossible, I don't think it will be. The story is different enough that it wouldn't make entirely too much sense to be the same. There's not going to be one big room in the center, for instance, that's closed off in Dinosaur's architecture IIRC.

That said, I would be very surprised if there isn't some boulder reference at some point. If it's not replacing the static jump-scare Carnotaurus, there'll be a screen with Indy running from one while you run into whatever the mythical creature ends up being. I know your post is more about the quality of effects Disney might put in (projections/screens vs. practical), but, I'm just spitballing ideas here.

One thing I wonder... to further differentiate the two rides, is it possible to like, take the ride cars and turn them around? Then it would technically be the same track, but mirrored AND reversed.
 
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celluloid

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DarkMetroid567 said:
Hard disagree, while the queue is indeed nicer the main showroom is darker and just generally less impressive. I thought the TDS version felt like a downgrade when I first rode in 2019 and had the same opinion last month.
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That's fine. That's fine. The large scene being perpetually wet and effects working was a much better set up than what was not with DL's. I like that the effects worked.

It would be nice if we were even getting that scale for WDW's like the original concept art depicted, but it has since been scaled down so much.
 
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celluloid

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Karakasa said:
With all this talk of potential closure dates... Obviously there are no guarantees until Disney says something, but insiders: is there a chance Dinosaur might still be open in early 2025? Like, Jan-Feb? Was thinking of making one last one-last-trip; don't wanna buy tickets and book flights/hotel only to find out "surprise, it's closing January 2".

Leapfrogging off this post: I think people are assuming it's gonna end up being a clone of DL/TDS, but given there are apparently aspects of the way the ride is built that would make a "mirror" 1:1 clone impossible, I don't think it will be. The story is different enough that it wouldn't make entirely too much sense to be the same. There's not going to be one big room in the center, for instance, that's closed off in Dinosaur's architecture IIRC.

That said, I would be very surprised if there isn't some boulder reference at some point. If it's not replacing the static jump-scare Carnotaurus, there'll be a screen with Indy running from one while you run into whatever the mythical creature ends up being. I know your post is more about the quality of effects Disney might put in (projections/screens vs. practical), but, I'm just spitballing ideas here.

One thing I wonder... to further differentiate the two rides, is it possible to like, take the ride cars and turn them around? Then it would technically be the same track, but mirrored AND reversed.
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Interesting idea. But the design is based on the climax of the finale with that slope the way it is.

I think this will be done to save as much resources including money, as possible and that would defeat the ROI scale.
 
KDM31091

KDM31091

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Karakasa said:
With all this talk of potential closure dates... Obviously there are no guarantees until Disney says something, but insiders: is there a chance Dinosaur might still be open in early 2025? Like, Jan-Feb? Was thinking of making one last one-last-trip; don't wanna buy tickets and book flights/hotel only to find out "surprise, it's closing January 2".

Leapfrogging off this post: I think people are assuming it's gonna end up being a clone of DL/TDS, but given there are apparently aspects of the way the ride is built that would make a "mirror" 1:1 clone impossible, I don't think it will be. The story is different enough that it wouldn't make entirely too much sense to be the same. There's not going to be one big room in the center, for instance, that's closed off in Dinosaur's architecture IIRC.

That said, I would be very surprised if there isn't some boulder reference at some point. If it's not replacing the static jump-scare Carnotaurus, there'll be a screen with Indy running from one while you run into whatever the mythical creature ends up being. I know your post is more about the quality of effects Disney might put in (projections/screens vs. practical), but, I'm just spitballing ideas here.

One thing I wonder... to further differentiate the two rides, is it possible to like, take the ride cars and turn them around? Then it would technically be the same track, but mirrored AND reversed.
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I’m not an insider but my guess is Dinosaur is safe until spring ish. There’s a lot more work to be done in the carnival area since they’re starting from scratch there. It would make sense to keep Dinosaur open as long as possible. The park needs capacity especially in winter when demand for the river rapids goes down leaving them with even less to do.
 
rle4lunch

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Hopeful that the new ride will have water effects to do something different than DL Indy w/fire. Think of how many water effects/stunts throughout the series of movies that they could lean on to put in the ride..
 
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celluloid

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rle4lunch said:
Hopeful that the new ride will have water effects to do something different than DL Indy w/fire. Think of how many water effects/stunts throughout the series of movies that they could lean on to put in the ride..
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That would be neat but water effects are as hard on theme park attraciton for upkeep(and in most cases more) than fire.

I am putting expectations in check and thinking we are getting dark stone with projections, and some animatronic/animation reskins to be giant snakes.
 
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I would even hazard with a guess that it might still be there in Summer 2025. They might be looking to keep it at least for the Summer season before accepting Summer 2026 is too late/much and crack on with it
 
Coaster Lover

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Build an impressive Quetzalcoatl animatronic (not just a reskin of the giant snake animatronic that they have at DL's Indy) and fix the Yeti and the park could have a nice collection of some of the most impressive (both in size and motion) animatronics at any Disney park (Shaman + Yeti + Quetzalcoatl)... though that assumes that both Indy gets an impressive animatronic AND they fix the yeti (and I think we're lucky if we just get one of those two things to happen).

I do hope that the Quetzalcoatl isn't in the final Carnotaurus/Boulder scene and we do get the same boulder scene as Cali. I love the idea of 99% of the ride being new/unique, but that boulder scene is just so iconic (both to the ride in Cali and to the franchise) and such a perfect finale to the experience.
 
KDM31091

KDM31091

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I highly doubt the physical effects that make Indiana jones will be included. The real fire, the fog, the “moving backwards” illusion, etc.

I wonder if we will even get the rolling boulder.
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Exactly. I don’t put the faith in them to do that. Probably lots of screens. And reskinned existing animatronics.
 

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