DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[AidenRodriguez731]

A Star Wars land would never have been as good as the Harry Potter lands because of the nature of the two franchises.

Harry Potter had distinct settings that spanned books/movies so you knew them intimately. Star Wars didn't have any settings that lent itself to something like Diagon Alley as a land.

Would Tatooine be a good land? Hoth? Generic snow and sand landscapes? Can you make a outdoors land based off the Death Star? The majority of Star Wars memorable locations are rooms/places that are not conducive to lands but would make amazing attractions or dining experiences. Any Star Wars land would always be a generic space port of some kind where you launched space ship adventures from.

Bingo. You don't NEED the land to be specific land because even if it is, there is nothing that actually comes together as a theme park land in the movies. If you have tatooine, most of it is a desert planet and the area around things like Mos Eisley are the only parts that CAN become a land and they would look terrible because its a giant flat desert planet.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Two dinosaur movies failed to catch on. Meanwhile, for Uni, they struck gold.

So, no IP synergy.

Yes, it does feel like Disney forfeited dinosaurs to Universal. Too bad.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Yes, it does feel like Disney forfeited dinosaurs to Universal. Too bad.

I mean you're competing with the ones who really fueled the entire dino craze for a long time. Universal forfeited princesses to Disney.

 

[Incomudro]

I'm amazed at the current discussion regarding Dinoland. Before it was removed, everyone hated it. Now that it's in the process of being rethemed into Tropical Americas it was a "mistake."

I've always loved it.
Love the ride.
Love the theme of the land.
It's a disgrace to see it destroyed.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I've always loved it.
Love the ride.
Love the theme of the land.
It's a disgrace to see it destroyed.

The general public hated the land so

if you can't please everyone, might as well please the most amount of people you can

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I’ve always thought Zootopia was a bad fit for AK because nothing in the movie has anything to truly do with animals or conservation- it’s a story about human problems, specifically racism, wrapped in an animal based metaphor. The animal stuff is just essentially visual gags.

Real talk though, isn't that literally also true for Bugs Life? Nothing about it is anything that bugs do

 

[Disstevefan1]

I mean you're competing with the ones who really fueled the entire dino craze for a long time. Universal forfeited princesses to Disney.

Ha, there was never a competition for princesses. Disney always ruled for decades.

At the time AK was created, Disney could have won the dino war, they simply couldn't get it done.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

Oh boy here we go again with Tiana’s in the dinosaur thread.

Box office wasn’t everything. Tiana and Encanto didn’t do great in box office but became cultural staples that many kids identified with

Princess and the frog was great.

 

[Incomudro]

This might sound mean, but like 90% of the ideas that fans come up with are just… awful. They, like current management, just think of a movie and try to slap it somewhere at random. I’ve seen someone say they should add Coco to Big Thunder Mountain because it would “make it better since no one knows what movie Big Thunder is based on”. Ignoring the fact that not a single scene in Coco looks anything like BTM, the assumption that everything is based on a movie says a lot about where we’re at.

What you described is essentially what is happening at WDW.
Non creative people coming up with ideas, and handing them to not particularly creative people.
The lands themselves often look great, but they are lacking in content and engagement.
There is not much you take away with you from the experience.
I've said it before, that it's like the old Simpsons episode The Homer car.
There is a reason actual creatives are supposed to be the one's who create.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It has nothing to do with Universal.

Sure it doesn't.

 

[Incomudro]

The general public hated the land so

if you can't please everyone, might as well please the most amount of people you can

Hated it?
The general public hated it?
You have anything to support that?

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Ha, there was never a competition for princesses. Disney always ruled for decades.

At the time AK was created, Disney could have won the dino war, they simply couldn't get it done.

Yeah they COULD have if they also had an insanely popular director direct 2 dinosaur movies better and more loved than the first 2 Jurassic Park films that were released at the time WHILE going through various financial hardships directly against a rival studio who was already working on a Jurassic Park ride.

But since we aren't in the Magic Kingdom, let's be real here. That's not gonna happen.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

This talk of forfeiting dinosaurs is stupid. Dinosaurs are not just Jurassic Park. Disney was telling a much different story than Jurassic Park, and Dinoland was not anywhere near the same. Just because one theme park has dinosaurs doesn't mean another one 40 min away can't have dinosaurs. This is a ridiculous premise.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The general public hated the land so

What are you talking about???

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Hated it?
The general public hated it?
You have anything to support that?

It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores

 

[lazyboy97o]

This talk of forfeiting dinosaurs is stupid. Dinosaurs are not just Jurassic Park. Disney was telling a much different story than Jurassic Park, and Dinoland was not anywhere near the same. Just because one theme park has dinosaurs doesn't mean another one 40 min away can't have dinosaurs. This is a ridiculous premise.

Even more so with Jurassic World moving more to generic monsters as they continue to introduce genetically engineered “dinosaurs” as the big threats.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

View attachment 875090
It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores

Who decided where those red lines should be? Also, if Dinosaur were firing on all cylinders, it would be rated higher.

 

[Gremlin Gus]

Reminder to everyone here... again...

View attachment 875001

 

[Incomudro]

View attachment 875090
It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores

That's hate?
And what happens when the interest in Encanto wears off?

 

[FrontierSpirit]

View attachment 875090
It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores

Dinosaur ride was terrible, had so much potential but was never fun and easily skipable. Kids loved the land when they were little. The Dino dig rollercoaster concept would have been great