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News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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GhostHost1000
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Good choice. Figment popcorn bucket?
Brer Oswald
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I understand why they don’t retell the stories 1 to 1, but if you aren’t going to at least recreate the most iconic and memorable parts of the IP, then why use the IP at all?
ToTBellHop
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Brer Panther
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China has a vast species of animals and an incredibly landscape. That doesn't mean they should add a Mulan ride to Animal Kingdom.
Do you really expect Disney to build an Encanto ride that teaches people about animals? They could've had the Nemo ride in the Living Seas teach parkgoers about fish, but they didn't. They could've used the Ratatouille ride to teach parkgoers about France, but they didn't. They could've used the Guardians of the Galaxy ride to teach parkgoers about energy like the ride it was replacing, but they didn't. Disney doesn't do "edutainment" anymore, I see no reason to believe they'd do it here.
If you have to go "Well, the characters in this franchise CAN be used to teach us about animals", maybe it's not as great a fit for Animal Kingdom as everyone thinks it is.
Frozen Ever After takes place after Frozen, but it still repeats many of the film's plot elements. Anna says "They were born ready!" at one point for no reason other than because she says something similar in the movie. Elsa is in her ice palace singing "Let It Go" for no reason other than because it's the most popular song from the movie. Olaf sings "In Summer" with all of the same lyrics from the movie for no reason other than because it's a song from the movie. The trolls appear simply because they were in the movie. Anna and Elsa randomly wear their Frozen Fever outfits for no reason other than because hey, people liked Frozen Fever, right?
As for Tiana's Bayou Adventure, it's obvious the only reason they're having it take place after the film is because people always complain about how Tiana is a frog for most of the movie and they want her to be human throughout the ride.
Y'know what's funny? When they wanted to put Moana in Animal Kingdom and I pointed out that it didn't fit in Animal Kingdom because, like Encanto, it is not about animals, others on here were claiming "Animal Kingdom's theme isn't actually animals, it's conservation". And yet here we have people insisting that an Encanto ride could be about animals because there's a minor character in the movie with a lot of animals. If Animal Kingdom's theme is actually conservation and not animals, doesn't that mean Encanto still doesn't fit? Or will the attraction actually have Mirabel going all Lorax and lecturing us about saving the rainforest?
Animaniac93-98
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Looks like AK is about to suffer the same fate DHS did 5 years ago.
Get an expensive overhaul for a section of the park that doesn't do much to increase overall capacity or solve the issue of a lack of rides with a height requirement. Encanto will be the only net gain in that sense.
The park will still need more than this, but will it get it in the next 5-10 years?
Get an expensive overhaul for a section of the park that doesn't do much to increase overall capacity or solve the issue of a lack of rides with a height requirement. Encanto will be the only net gain in that sense.
The park will still need more than this, but will it get it in the next 5-10 years?
aladdin2007
Well-Known Member
an eticket is also reportedly in the works....a 300 space Imagineering parking lot is not going backstage just for Indy and Encanto.
Disstevefan1
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Is there a net gain of attractions here??
We had TriceraTop Spin, Primeval Whirl, Dinosaur
We had TriceraTop Spin, Primeval Whirl, Dinosaur
yensidtlaw1969
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That simply isn't the goal of this project.
Genuine expansion to WDW is coming, but Disney wants something on the docket that can open in the meantime.
That's this.
EricsBiscuit
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Good! I was scared for a moment they would cheap out.
Bill Cipher
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- In the Parks
- Yes
This has been repeated ad nauseum, but since you still deny it I'll keep throwing it at the wall for you.
Joe Rohde (the lead designer of Disney's Animal Kingdom since its inception) has explicitly stated the themes of the park are as follows, "the intrinsic value of nature, psychological transformation through adventure, and a personal call to action." You can deny it all you'd like and you can even dislike it, but that doesn't change the fact that this is officially documented as the original artistic vision. "Animals" isn't a theme in the literary sense, it's a loose narrative thread. Kali River Rapids is a ride which came to the park in its early years and features no references to animals of any kind, but the ride does speak to the three main themes of Animal Kingdom as intended by the designers. Guests see the effect that deforestation can have on an ecosystem and are swept over a waterfall because of it. All themes present with no animals in sight.
Moana is a film where the main character actively sees the destruction of an ecosystem and begins to recognize the intrinsic value of nature, experiences a personal call to action, and undergoes a psychological transformation to save her island. It's pretty textbook stuff.
It is indeed true that the presence of animals in an Encanto ride would not automatically make the ride a good fit for the park, because their mere presence does not elevate the attraction's narrative to these themes. That said, it is genuinely not hard at all to imagine a version of this narrative where the characters of the film are actively saving or protecting an animal or its habitat, all while not going on a Lorax soapbox like you mentioned.
For the sake of full transparency, I originally had little to no faith that the grander themes of the park would be upheld in these new attractions when they were first announced. Now that Rohde is heavily rumored to be involved (and not just in a superficial consultant role like Baxter was in TBA) I have significantly more faith. Joe is not the kind of guy to come out of retirement for the money. This park is his magnum opus, his baby. It's hard to find another example in the entire themed entertainment industry of an entire theme park dedicated to defining its themes as high concept statements instead of just light placemaking. The only other example which immediately comes to mind is 1980's-90's Epcot Center.
Conservation with animals in sight and sound. And the connection to them is evident through the temple arcetecture including some on the ride who squirt you.
Like Everest, it is mankind's connection, inspiration and unfortunately, sometimes disregard to existing with the natural world.
The lift hill of Flora and Fauna, the misty rainforest. the sounds of animals near and far and the remainder of the short ride tell these stories.
There is not a theme of the one family member of the owner of the river rapids company can talk to animals like Dr. Dolittle.
Kali fits much better with this example comparison.
Kali fits the intrinsic value of nature described here.
Encanto does not.
Indy_UK
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I’d like the Mystic Manor ride with a Encanto theme of the house. No idea how possible that is.
Lion King I am struggling to come up with a ride concept for that. Personally I would have preferred it to remain exclusive to Paris too.
Another attraction at Pandora would be welcome.
Lion King I am struggling to come up with a ride concept for that. Personally I would have preferred it to remain exclusive to Paris too.
Another attraction at Pandora would be welcome.
doctornick
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Personally I have felt that Mystic Manor is more or less the exact kind of ride DAK really needs. Something similar in execution themed to Encanto would I agree be a great addition to DAK.
flyerjab
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I always thought of having a a dark ride called Legend of the Lion King. The idea being that it would be told by an elder of the village of Harambe, and the story would be tweaked in a way that it would be styled as a story that was told to the children in the village. The AAs would be made to look like they were fashioned from the flora found in that part of the world. Lions’ manes could be thatched for example. It would prevent it from being a photo recreation of the movie and allow an African-inspired artistic style to the look and feel of the ride.
Brer Panther
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Does Encanto have any of these themes? Isn't the plot of the movie actually about the house falling apart because everyone is at odds and all the pressure being put on them with their magic powers?
Well, actually, it was supposed to have animals, but then Disneyland Paris was a financial failure and the budget cuts started pouring in.
And once again, do you really expect Disney to do that? Disney doesn't do "edutainment" anymore - just look at what they're doing to EPCOT. I'd be shocked if the characters in the ride didn't sing "We Don't Talk About Bruno" at any point, even if the ride takes place after the movie.
And by the way, no, WALL-E would not fit in Animal Kingdom either.
Bocabear
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Moana is a conservation story...much like Pandora. The heart of T'fiti was stolen which put the world at odds...Restoring the heart of T'fiti puts the plundered sick world back in order... It is also about a love and respect for the Sea. Moana was not a difficult theme to bring into the Animal Kingdom...certainly an easier fit than Encanto...
Disstevefan1
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I keep forgetting, more attractions may reduce demand for Geine+ and ILL. Got it.
This "docket" is going to take at least 5 years to build. Too bad.
Tha Realest
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Moana also seems to be a more popular film than Encanto
aladdin2007
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Im not sure either one is really, both may have had a moment, but its just Disney pushes them at everybody.