Sirwalterraleigh
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If you view the prices at wdw from the lens of “how much does it cost them?”...you’re off course already
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News Early Theme Park Entry and Extended Evening Hours coming for resort guests
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If you view the prices at wdw from the lens of “how much does it cost them?”...you’re off course already
I doubt it, i think it depends on when the parks decide social distancing no longer needs to be a thing. It sounds like they are slowly removing social distancing on rides, the next step after that would be removing social distancing in lines. Whenever they do that (which I predict occuring in late May/Early June) is the day I predict they start EMH. Simply because if they aren’t social distancing in lines, then they can hold the mob of non resort guests at the entrance gate or at a rope in the park without issues just like the good old days.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
This makes sense to me. I could see them removing distancing requirements for outdoors pretty soon which would include front gate. As is it’s nearly impossible to maintain 6 feet in the parks these days while walking around so why require it in a line. Indoor queues and restaurants will probably be a while longer.
ToTBellHop
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The CDC will soon announce 3 feet of social distancing is enough. This has already been communicated to Departments of Public Health to inform decisions on reopening schools.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Indoor and outdoor? Does that mean restaurants can space tables 3 feet apart? That would most likely allow for near 100% capacity at most restaurants.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Everywhere. It’s the European guideline, so it’s not entirely arbitrary. It’s the only way to get schools fully open but you can’t exactly say, “it’s safe for 7-year olds but not adults.”
It’s also why you are seeing summer concert announcements and musical theater being scheduled.
cmb5002
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Isn't 3 feet essentially no social distancing under normal circumstances? Maybe not side to side, but front to back if you're any closer than that you're breathing down each other's necks.
I don’t think the average guest is smart enough to distinguish an indoor queue from an outdoor one, especially if the line is a mix of both. Therefore I expect Disney to be uniform in their queue distancing rules irregardless of its location.
ToTBellHop
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How else do you reopen schools? We teachers were saying this 9 months ago. It has finally reached ears higher up.
Agreed. Seems the current entry procedure is meant to avoid bottlenecks of throngs of people -- By letting people into the park 45 minutes early, but not really allowing arrival too long before that, you basically are letting in people as they arrive.
But on further thought, I think they will hold it back until October 1st or so.
While they can start Early Entry whenever they eliminate social distancing, it will require starting transportation a little earlier as well. (You'd have a lot of unhappy park guests if on-site transportation can't get them to the rope drop). It's one thing when on-site guests can't get to an unofficial early-open on time, but once it becomes an official on-site benefit, you better get the guests there.
So a few things really need to happen for early entry:
1 - Reduce/eliminate social distancing requirements
2 - Advance the start of on-site transportation
3 - Some (minor) infrastructure/procedural changes, though not really any different than morning EMH used to be. But now you'll be holding off-site guests at all parks, every day.
The more this year goes on, it feels like Disney has decided to just sacrifice this fiscal year, and start fresh on October 1st. By waiting to around October 1st, they can tie this "benefit" in to explicitly being part of the 50th Anniversary promotion -- Let's face it, they need stuff to promote!
Thus far, we have, "Our most magical celebration ever with... Characters in new purple outfits! Some special lighting! Opening of Ratatouille and new Creperie! And finally, on-site guests get an extra 30 minutes of magic!"
I don't see much of a benefit to Disney to start it long before October 1st. (they already seem resigned to not filling all their on-site resort space this summer, with several hotels still closed).
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ToTBellHop
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Returning the parks to 12-hour days this summer will feel luxurious enough after the last 8 months.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I guess that’s probably true. I was just thinking that outdoor distancing could be a stepping stone to eliminating all distancing.
.... do you expect them to return to 12 hour days?
I have an August trip booked... and my mood has been swinging between optimism and pessimism. I was considering moving it to Christmas..... Then I was feeling optimistic with rumors of summer night entertainment, etc... so I went and booked airfare. Now I'm pretty locked in. Then came the news that the Rat won't be open until October (I really thought it would be open for my trip). So I'm pessimistic again. When early entry was first announced (months ago), I expected it would be going by August, but now, I don't think so.
So give me some good news... tell me you actually expect parks operating 12 hours per day.. if I can get that and some form of fireworks (I'll take Fantasmic and EF!), then I'll be happy..
TrainsOfDisney
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Umm... I don’t understand. If safe distancing = 6’ it doesn’t magically become 3’ just because you want to open schools.
But it's not necessarily a matter of "rules" -- It's more a matter of 1 rule, applied differently indoors and outdoors: Rule -- Respect the social distancing markers.
Now, nothing stops Disney from placing those markers closer to each other outdoors compared to indoors. (though they would have to go through the trouble of moving the existing markers).
It’s always been 1 meter. 1 meter is slightly longer then a yard, I have no idea why CDC picked 6ft.
But 6' was never a magical number to begin with. With experience, we have learned that 3', WITH MASKS, can be pretty safe, especially with younger people who are at lower risks.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Disney is scheduled to open several more resorts Late Spring and early summer. I could see them looking to offer this perk to fill the onsite rooms. If they don’t think they need the extra cost they won’t do it. I don’t see this as being a big selling feature for the 50th. It’s not a ride or a show or an attraction that they can promote or advertise and is only a benefit for hotel guests. It’s basically a perk to get people to pay for the rooms. I don’t see Disney as uninterested in filling their rooms but they won’t spend extra money if they think they can fill the rooms anyway.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Exactly. The CDC was overly aggressive. And it was fine when everything was closed. Now that we are fully-reopening, they will move their guidelines back to the actual science. They have been instructed to determine how to safely reopen. So they will.