Earfell Tower to be removed

Meeko77

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Entirely possible I visited without clearing cache. Will have to check again.

LMA is gone but not yet ET.
I believe you, but wish I could see the same thing! I only see the park "banner" backgrounds on the FastPass page, and the version I see has neither.

Is there another part of the website where you are seeing it?
 

Figment2005

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It's sort of surreal. DHS (MGM) is the only Disney park I've been alive enough, and consciously aware enough, to experience it's birth and death. I watched all the shows promoting the opening (I was 9 when it opened), and we were there very soon after it opened. I experienced the park at its onset and at its peak, when they added Tower of Terror. I experienced the original backlot tour (the LONG one) and really ate up the "real studio" thing.

And, sadly, I've watched the park be admitted to the ICU and have various life support systems removed one by one.

Yes, I love progress, but it's a shame to see essentially everything that gave the park any character being removed. Lots of nostalgia.
I can't help but to agree with you. While I was alive when the park opened, I never got to experience it fully until 1997. I remember the Osbourne lights on residential street. The backlot tour when it may not have been in its prime, but it wasn't a neutered form like it was until it closed. It is a shame to see such an icon, and such a park go through so many changes, but I choose to be optimistic about the final product and await its completion.
 

Goofyernmost

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I can't help but to agree with you. While I was alive when the park opened, I never got to experience it fully until 1997. I remember the Osbourne lights on residential street. The backlot tour when it may not have been in its prime, but it wasn't a neutered form like it was until it closed. It is a shame to see such an icon, and such a park go through so many changes, but I choose to be optimistic about the final product and await its completion.
I should be pretty obvious by now that they are limiting the past memory of Disney/MGM later known as Disney Hollywood Studios. That has died and we are really fortunate that some of the attractions look like they will remain, but, it seems that they are almost starting from scratch with a new look and a new feel, one that might last longer the the Studios was able to do. They will keep the most popular attractions and somehow incorporate them into the new park (to be named later). Remember that Disney/MGM is the Hollywood that never was and always will be... until now! RIP!
 

PirateFrank

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The hat was dead center of a fully operational park. The tower was on a closed-off section of the park. When you don't have to worry about show buildings right next door, and you don't have to have your mess cleaned up by 9:00 the next morning, you can do things a lot faster. I'm guessing it will be weeks before all of the debris is actually removed...

Sorry, gotta side with Zakk on this one. The hat came down at a true glacial pace. we're talking 2'x7' sections a nite. Whereas, this 130' tower, the reservoir and probably several times more structural steal than the hat -- all came down in a single night - and afaik, all of debris from the tower was carted away by the next morning.

Sorry, it doesn't compute. No matter how different the circumstances are in the surrounding areas of the two structures. There's no denying that the hat coming down was a very deliberately slow operation and the tower came down with high efficiency. After this, would I expect that they could have removed the hat in a single nite? no.....but they took three months. It doesn't add up.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Sorry, gotta side with Zakk on this one. The hat came down at a true glacial pace. we're talking 2'x7' sections a nite. Whereas, this 130' tower, the reservoir and probably several times more structural steal than the hat -- all came down in a single night - and afaik, all of debris from the tower was carted away by the next morning.

Sorry, it doesn't compute. No matter how different the circumstances are in the surrounding areas of the two structures. There's no denying that the hat coming down was a very deliberately slow operation and the tower came down with high efficiency. After this, would I expect that they could have removed the hat in a single nite? no.....but they took three months. It doesn't add up.

That hat was nearly 130 feet tall also, and was a much more complex structure then the tower. With the tower you just lift off the top, and then take down the legs. The hat had multiple layers that had come down piece by piece. The hat was also a complete building with probably more electrical then the tower, plumbing, as well as a full HVAC system.
 

Tom

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Sorry, gotta side with Zakk on this one. The hat came down at a true glacial pace. we're talking 2'x7' sections a nite. Whereas, this 130' tower, the reservoir and probably several times more structural steal than the hat -- all came down in a single night - and afaik, all of debris from the tower was carted away by the next morning.

Sorry, it doesn't compute. No matter how different the circumstances are in the surrounding areas of the two structures. There's no denying that the hat coming down was a very deliberately slow operation and the tower came down with high efficiency. After this, would I expect that they could have removed the hat in a single nite? no.....but they took three months. It doesn't add up.

That hat was nearly 130 feet tall also, and was a much more complex structure then the tower. With the tower you just lift off the top, and then take down the legs. The hat had multiple layers that had come down piece by piece. The hat was also a complete building with probably more electrical then the tower, plumbing, as well as a full HVAC system.

Yes, very much this. The hat was a "building" with a structure. They took it down the same way it went up.

Plus, hat was in the middle of the park. Tower was in a restricted area. Didn't have to be as careful.
 

Goofyernmost

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Sorry, it doesn't compute. No matter how different the circumstances are in the surrounding areas of the two structures. There's no denying that the hat coming down was a very deliberately slow operation and the tower came down with high efficiency. After this, would I expect that they could have removed the hat in a single nite? no.....but they took three months. It doesn't add up.
Seriously, you do need to spend much more time involved in construction because there is no comparison between the water tower and the hat. None, other then they both where in DHS. You or I have no way of knowing how much time was spent in preparation to take it down in one night, but, comparatively it wasn't anywhere near the complex structure that the hat was. And as others have said it wasn't sitting right in the middle of an active theme park. Cancel any conspiracy theories on this one.
 

PirateFrank

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That hat was nearly 130 feet tall also, and was a much more complex structure then the tower. With the tower you just lift off the top, and then take down the legs. The hat had multiple layers that had come down piece by piece. The hat was also a complete building with probably more electrical then the tower, plumbing, as well as a full HVAC system.

Yes, very much this. The hat was a "building" with a structure. They took it down the same way it went up.

Plus, hat was in the middle of the park. Tower was in a restricted area. Didn't have to be as careful.

Seriously, you do need to spend much more time involved in construction because there is no comparison between the water tower and the hat. None, other then they both where in DHS. You or I have no way of knowing how much time was spent in preparation to take it down in one night, but, comparatively it wasn't anywhere near the complex structure that the hat was. And as others have said it wasn't sitting right in the middle of an active theme park. Cancel any conspiracy theories on this one.

All three of you missed my point. Like I have *clearly* said, I have no doubt, whatsoever, that there are differences between the demolition of these two structures. But the point I was making was that 1 day vs 90, at least to me, seemed odd.....even despite the differences. I was not expecting the hat to come down overnight, nor would I even after seeing how fast the tower came down. But to me, this is evidence that Disney moves when they want to - and doesn't when they don't. There was no timetable to meet last winter when the hat came down - no ground to break yet. Unlike now. It appears to me that the hat removal was deliberately slow. They probably got the 3 month rate instead of the 1 month rate. Also, I'm not roasting Disney for this...just making an observation. So "conspiracy theory"?? No. (seriously, Goofyernmost?) But to suggest that there's a bit of bean counter time tabling going on here was not ridiculous at all.
 

Goofyernmost

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All three of you missed my point. Like I have *clearly* said, I have no doubt, whatsoever, that there are differences between the demolition of these two structures. But the point I was making was that 1 day vs 90, at least to me, seemed odd.....even despite the differences. I was not expecting the hat to come down overnight, nor would I even after seeing how fast the tower came down. But to me, this is evidence that Disney moves when they want to - and doesn't when they don't. There was no timetable to meet last winter when the hat came down - no ground to break yet. Unlike now. It appears to me that the hat removal was deliberately slow. They probably got the 3 month rate instead of the 1 month rate. Also, I'm not roasting Disney for this...just making an observation. So "conspiracy theory"?? No. (seriously, Goofyernmost?) But to suggest that there's a bit of bean counter time tabling going on here was not ridiculous at all.
Not missed at all. However, a structure built like the hat was, and we got to see that as they took it down, is a highly engineered structure. It will not just jump into the dumpster by itself. The Tower, on the other hand, is four steal pipes holding up an empty metal tank. Five basic pieces. And yes, that can come "down" in one night, but the preparation, weakening of the structure, partial removal of certain parts, may have been happening over a number of weeks, you don't know that. All you know is one day it was there and the next day it was gone. I apologize for the conspiracy topic, but, your post sounded to me like you were implying that there was some deliberate slow down while taking down the hat. Something that was above and beyond necessary. I am saying that from what I could see it was a complex destruction job, in a sensitive area and required a lot of time to make it work. If you could give me one good reason why "the Bean Counters" would care about extending the cost of taking it down to be a positive thing, then I will reconsider. That's the conspiracy I was referring too.
 

Goingdown13

Active Member
That hat was nearly 130 feet tall also, and was a much more complex structure then the tower. With the tower you just lift off the top, and then take down the legs. The hat had multiple layers that had come down piece by piece. The hat was also a complete building with probably more electrical then the tower, plumbing, as well as a full HVAC system.

They just knocked it over like any ol water tower
 

Monorail_Red_77

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On the MDE website, I don't see this - I see the version with LMA and Earffel Tower removed (and have for the past week or so) - do you know where you found this on the site? Just curious - thanks!

Here's a fresh look at the header image on the MDE FP+ section as of this morning 5/2/16. No LMA and no Earful...

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jt04

Well-Known Member
If ever it would be good for overhead photos I guess it would be now. Wondering if the tower was tipped over, if Walt's plane is gone and the state of LMA.
 

JohnD

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Somebody told me that LMA was removed from the MDE image. I just cleared my cache. Not as far as I can tell in my itinerary. Earfell Tower still there too. Can't link to it as it's specific to my trip.

I agree it's updated for FP+ and daily park hours pages.

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JohnD

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I believe you, but wish I could see the same thing! I only see the park "banner" backgrounds on the FastPass page, and the version I see has neither.

Is there another part of the website where you are seeing it?

Yes. I've figured out it's still the old image in my itinerary for 10/29-11/4. I agree that the image is updated for the FP+ and daily HS park hours pages.
 

Meeko77

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Yes. I've figured out it's still the old image in my itinerary for 10/29-11/4. I agree that the image is updated for the FP+ and daily HS park hours pages.

Thanks so much for checking, John. If you right-click on it to "view image," the background banner may actually be a bit larger. You might be able to copy/paste that link for us without revealing your personal trip details. If not, no worries! :)
 

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