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Dragon Coaster for EPCOT?
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ears2you
New Member
im with you on that. as much as i wish that EPCOT had another cool ride it would ruin world showcase.
mkepcotmgmak
Well-Known Member
i would LOVE to see a great rollercoaster in Epcot - just not in world showcase! ESPECIALLY if you could see it outside of one of the pre-existing buildings...
bassman
New Member
yeah thats what i was thinking,a small 'mummy'ish mulan coaster that takes you through a new mulan story,with AA's, projectors and other technologies being used.
Another quote for the Forums Wall of Fame :lol:
malice
Well-Known Member
i'd rather that they just put the go ahead on the mt. fuji ride. i remember watching disney world's 15th anniversary special (hosted by bea arthur and betty white!) which actually mentioned it as an upcoming attraction complete with scale model footage. time to whip out the old betamax...
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
About Epcot getting any new attractions, WS wise, I wish they would do that brother bear/canadian raft ride thing. I also wish they had some type of boat ride or something other than shows to showcase some of the countries.
TestTrack
Active Member
No more movie tie ins PLEASE!!!!! :brick: :brick: :brick:
CThaddeus
New Member
If it's done well, and the characters have some kind of connection to the country, I don't see why not. Right now any good additions to World Showcase are more than welcome in my book.
TestTrack
Active Member
Because it was the original intention of EPCOT to not have character tie ins or characters at all. I can stand have characters walking around the kids to meet...but I don't want epcot to become an extension of the magic kingdom :king:
CThaddeus
New Member
Right. Like Figment. He may not be a "classic" Disney animated character, but he IS a Disney animated character. And he's been there since the beginning.
Besides, you're a bit late. Nemo and the Lion King casts are already there and, in my mind, they are part are some of the few good changes to EPCOT. If a World Showcase attraction has as much class and quality as Circle of Life or The Seas with Nemo and Friends then I say more power to them. World Showcase needs the attractions.
TestTrack
Active Member
I am not late...I said no MORE please. I can handle the circle of life...it works well enough. I can't say I CARE for seeing the "Nemo and friends" sign but I can see how that was probably the best option at reviving a semi-dead pavillion. I just don't want this to be the new trend.
On a off topic note...doesn't Kodak own Dreamfinder or Figment...I thought they had the rights to one of them...can't remember :hammer:
Crazy Harry
Active Member
Wow, you must be crazier than me, and crazy is my first name
. So what bit did you read about Westcot that included no attractions. The one that was origianlly posted includes 3 to 4 attractions in just a small section of the park, which is almost as much as the whole of the current world showcase Whatever you read it's obviously much different than what I read, because Westcot IMO is the most AMAZING disney park never built.I know this thread is in essence not about Westcot, but I feel inspired to defend it because it is being grossly misrepresented.
Small park yes, but well utilized. World showcase was to be more blended together. USA and american adventure would greet you as you entered. Mexico was meant to be an mostly indoor area as it is but with a grander fiesta theme with many smaller attractions indoors and possibly a darkride/boatride of some sort. SE Asia was explained already with the carosuel of asian animals, dragon coaster, and some sort of show. I remember mention also of a great religions of the world show. Also a boat ride of African animals in the same vein as Jungle Cruise but more serious and educational, and a story teller tree to recite stories of early african heritage and mythology. Italy (I think) was to have trivoli gardens. I'm sure there is much more I'm forgetting for WS, including many more countries.
One of the major attractions was to be 'world boat tour", or something to this effect. Imagine if Epcot had it's own boat ride version of TTA that floated past the buildings in different areas of WS, and entered various show buildings appropriate for the area of the park (WS and FW). This ride was to be one of the longest in Disney history at somewhere over 40 minutes (can't remember if it was supposed to be longer than UOE or not), and would connect the areas of the park together thematically.
FW was meant to be entierly enclosed. Originally the Spacestation Earth was to be like the Epcot geodesic sphere but gold. The locals thought it would look ungodly, so in an attempt to compromise and even have the park built they decided on the Westcot spike instead. The origianl concept of SSE had a rollercoaster inside the sphere but I think they planned to relocate in that effort to please the locals but keep the ride. Other attractions included Imagination (a varied version with effects not used in the original), an area simular to the land but with different environments, and something called cosmic journeys which may have been simular to JTIS in 3d, but I honestly can't remember. The whole idea of the area was to put the guest "on stage" and increase the amount of active involvement.
The two other things wich are mentioned I think is important to remember is that there would have been many more attractions geared toward children and also hotels within the confines of the park.
I'm sure my account is very incomplete but should provide a better idea than what was mentioned before. I'm sure if you look you can find the transcripts from the original presentation by Tony Baxter as the original poster obviously did with his "slide 9".
Crazy Harry
Active Member
I too am not a fan of character additions gone wild, but so far it really hasn't, at least not at epcot. Nemo the perfect addtion. The old pavillion was worthless. Despite it's misleading name, the living seas was dead. No one was there, there was nothing to do, and really nothing special enough to capture too many people's attension. Now it is popular and a place more geared toward children which I fell was essential. And the new ride looks amazing. If nothing else I would go to the pavillion for that. Before I felt guilty for even going in there because it was time better spent elsewhere.
There are only two sets of characters in attractions in the entire park, so I wouldn't freak out just yet. When goofy is hosting test track and pluto (the dog) is floating past you in an astronaut suit on Mission: Space, then we'll talk.
And TL can't be called Pixarland just yet, it only has two pixar based attractions. In that case we could call FrL talking animal land and LS dead guy square.
CThaddeus
New Member
Wow, you must be crazier than me, and crazy is my first name
You're right, perhaps on both counts. What I read was completely a different creature than what you're indicating (and, like the Cheshire Cat, I'm quite proud of my madness). This was a small treatment I read when working at Disneyland. In it, all that was really talked about was the World Showcase area. You would enter the Park, there was the crystal formation centerpiece, then World Showcase was directly in front of you, spread out in a U-shape similar to EPCOT's. It mentioned native performers, shops, restaurants, and a few possible shows. No mention was made of a Future World or attractions. I found it hard to believe this was an idea they were truly considering, but perhaps it was just a VERY early draft of the idea.
What you describe sounds like a Park worthy of building next to Disneyland. My only real concern is that the space needed for it to be done right just doesn't exist. Perhaps if they'd bought out the Convention Center and all the surrounding hotels/motels across Katella, then maybe. If that's really what they were planning for WESTCOT, though, I wish they had done it.
WDWFanatic
Active Member
Did you happen to see the concept drawings on jim hills site for mt fuji from long ago?
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2006/10/13/6197.aspx
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2006/10/13/6197.aspx
epcotfreak1224
New Member
I think Disney should take down the millenium village. I know its a very popular place to holod events, but there is so much potential land there. U can add a whole new country like switzerland and have a matterhorn type ride. Also, there might be some room to even build the canadian raft ride there. Also, Japan should get a mt. Fiji, even though I agree with the fact that WS should not get roller coasters, a beutifully built mountain can really enhance the scenery. can you imagine how nice Epcot could look with two majestic mountains coming out in opposite sides. It would only add to the grandour in my honest opinion. Also, how cool would the mountains look all lit up during REO. But if they ever really build rollercoasters, they better be insides because it would be completely annoying to walk around WS and hear people screaming.
DisneyMusician2
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I agree with posters that the WS should be a place to show off the countries that are being represented. If you can tell a piece of the history of the country using characters, then so be it. I do think that a ride of Mulan similar to one that would appear in MK would not be appropriate. But Mulan or characters from it introducing the history, music, or even mythology of China would be an excellent addition.