Double-decker back at MK

tnemgif

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This was not directed at your suggestion of thinning crowds. Rather at the suggestion that higher-paying guests are better-behaved guests.
It should. WDW is not a right.
I was implying that I don't believe anyone has a right to equate manners/behavior with class/wealth. Suggesting that raising ticket prices should keep those "messy lower-middle-class rubes" away is insulting.
 

asianway

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This was not directed at your suggestion of thinning crowds. Rather at the suggestion that higher-paying guests are better-behaved guests.

I was implying that I don't believe anyone has a right to equate manners/behavior with class/wealth. Suggesting that raising ticket prices should keep those "messy lower-middle-class rubes" away is insulting.
So did you see the free dining dates got released today?
 

asianway

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It should. WDW is not a right.

Sad thing is how little the Brits pay for their extended "holidays" at WDW in the offseason. Free dining. 21 day tix for less than a 7 day US ticket. 30% off rooms.

Disneyland Premium AP $649.00
Tokyo Disneyland AP - both parks(may still be restricted due to crowds)80,000Y(or around $808)
WDW Premium AP - $559(although DVC members got a $399 "going out of business sale" rate late last year)

Simple fact is that WDW is underpriced - and the quality suffers for it. Please, I beg you TDO raise the prices.
 

Animaniac93-98

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The way people dress and act throughout the parks suggest guests across social stratifications don't care if they're rude slobs. They paid, therefore they can do as they please, the 30,000 other people having done the same be damned.
 

Goofyernmost

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I can walk faster than the buses can move from one load point to another. The problem is that people are forced to move out of the way as the buses (or other vehicles) pass. It causes unnecessary congestion. You end up having too many people competing for too little space on both sides of Main Street USA.
To me it's part of the show. It added vitality and life to an otherwise lifeless place. It lets people know that they are open for business and we have things for you to do. Moving out of the way for two minutes and congesting one spot for less then that is a small price to pay for a part of the vibrancy that is missing from WDW as of late.
 

mikeymouse

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Quite the opposite. The higher the price, the higher the clientele. Higher end customers won't stand for the nickel and diming cuts that have been running rampant.

What's your opinion of the quality of the FL resort today?

Thats your opinion. My middle class butt won't be going back then if I can't afford it and just for your information, I treat the park, its guests, and its cast members with a great deal of respect.
 

tnemgif

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Quite the opposite. The higher the price, the higher the clientele. Higher end customers won't stand for the nickel and diming cuts that have been running rampant.

What's your opinion of the quality of the FL resort today?
This is a totally different argument from your first argument - that higher-paying guests will treat the park better. This argument holds some validity (and less insults).
 

asianway

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This is a totally different argument from your first argument - that higher-paying guests will treat the park better. This argument holds some validity (and less insults).
You may be associating my comments with some of the others in the thread. I agree, higher paying guests may tend to generally have better behavior than say a group of brazilian teens on 50% discounted tickets, but there are idiots at all class levels.

My point is that WDW has seen a quality decline becausse the guests have allowed it to and they keep coming. Ever read the budget board on the dis? GF is not a 5 star hotel, but the typical guest thinks it is, having never stayed in a 5 star hotel. The guests not demanding the quality standards they fail to uphold is the problem.
 

matt9112

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So did you see the free dining dates got released today?


Your argument should be geared toward promotions not prices of tickets as a whole. However if you got all your rich friends to book rooms in the slower parts of the season than those discounted offers would vanish. I'm all for numbers and statistically increasing the cost of a good and or service reduces demand thus increasing supply. (In this case apparently room on Main Street?) and on a side note I'm sure the current prices are reflective of the relationship of cost and demand.....too high and you loose demand too low and you loose supply. However as a good mannered self respecting "middle classer" I found your comment slightly insulting.
 

Tim_4

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Quite the opposite. The higher the price, the higher the clientele. Higher end customers won't stand for the nickel and diming cuts that have been running rampant.

What's your opinion of the quality of the FL resort today?
Ding ding ding. People want Rolls Royce quality at WDW but don't want it priced above a pre-owned BMW. It's still a premium product with a premium price in the overall theme park world but achieving that next step takes money.
 

Tim_4

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This was not directed at your suggestion of thinning crowds. Rather at the suggestion that higher-paying guests are better-behaved guests.

I was implying that I don't believe anyone has a right to equate manners/behavior with class/wealth. Suggesting that raising ticket prices should keep those "messy lower-middle-class rubes" away is insulting.
I generally agree with your money versus behavior comment with one exception. Teenagers/school groups. They're generally the most disrespectful and obnoxious guests. I'd be happy to see WDW priced out of their range.
 

MattM

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I was implying that I don't believe anyone has a right to equate manners/behavior with class/wealth. Suggesting that raising ticket prices should keep those "messy lower-middle-class rubes" away is insulting.
To be fair, we don't want to keep the middle class out, just the honey boo boo class ;) I am kidding
 

MattM

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My point is that WDW has seen a quality decline becausse the guests have allowed it to and they keep coming. Ever read the budget board on the dis? GF is not a 5 star hotel, but the typical guest thinks it is, having never stayed in a 5 star hotel. The guests not demanding the quality standards they fail to uphold is the problem.

Great point. Quality is relative I suppose.
 

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