Don't you hate it when...

5thGenTexan

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We are going to make our trip on April 30. I haven't done much planning since I am not sure how the day will go. Our ship is supposed to arrive in PC at 6:30, and I signed up for the earliest bus at 7:15. So, hopefully we are at MK before 9:00 am. Also not sure when they start busses for the return back to PC. I'm guessing we will not have much choice other than to play it by ear.
 

JIMINYCR

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Some people just dont want to take advice no matter how good it is or who it comes from. If their trip is less than what it could be, it isnt your fault. You tried. Maybe after they come back having made major blunders they will be more likely to seek you out the next time.

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flipadeeflop

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Hopefully he wont even notice the fastpasses, so wont get confused on how to use them haha. Maybe once they are there for one day, they will decide to stay longer! You can link him to some helpful websites! Does he do most of the planning or does his wife? Do you know her? Maybe you can email her the links! It sounds like he doesn't really want to go, almost like he's just going because he has to and that's why he doesn't want to listen to your advice! Sometimes when I'm planning a vacation other than a WDW one (shh) I like to look at itineraries that other people have came up with and plan from there. Try giving him a sample of one you've followed or an old park map!
 

EOD K9

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Most of the people on here have the same attitude I think. We all hear someone is going, we get jealous (doesn't matter if we were just there or are going soon) and we want to help. The person goes, has a less than great experience and trashes the place etc. We then have to advise them that if you had done x, y, and z, things would have been different. It is almost as if we are unofficial ambassadors for WDW and want people to go and have a great time so they can see the light. If they don't like it, you cannot make them understand, and that is a few less people in the park on my return visit.
 

sbkline

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I had a couple coworkers who were initially planning a trip together in August. They were talking about it back in June or July, and the one doing all the planning kept telling me that her travel agent said that they can book the trip in October. I kept trying to tell her that this isn't true. I told her that you can actually book a trip for "next year" anytime, but that the official rates are not released until August (or June or July). I kept trying to explain to her that even if the official rates for "next year" are not released, you can still book a room and just put down a deposit to hold the room until official, locked in rates come out in August (or whatever month), and that the travel agent has no clue what she's talking about if she is saying that she can't book "next year" until October.

Now, they have decided not to go this year after all and they are shooting for next year. I was sitting at the same table with both of them in the breakroom today and I heard her telling her friend that the travel agent said that they can for next year, this coming April. :mad: I didn't even bother going over it with her again. I've tried to explain it multiple times, I've tried to explain how she would be better off booking it on her own and not wasting her time with a TA, and that the TA doesn't know what she's talking about (well, unless certain Travel Agencies have internal policies about booking a WDW trip a certain amount of time in advance, in which case I still say she could do better than deal with such an agency). I pretty much identify with Master Yoda when he said to Luke "hear you nothing that I say?" lol
 

Stellajack

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...when someone is planning a Disney vacation but doing it ALL wrong. And you know it's going to be a disaster. And no matter what you say, you can't convince them otherwise. Here's my example. A co-worker of mine is taking his wife and kids down to Florida. His kids are 1 and 3. Disney isn't the main part of their trip.

Here is their plan. Drive down, from Michigan, go to the Animal Kingdom Lodge for two nights. Go to "Disney World" (he means the Magic Kingdom) for one day, then spend the next 6 days at a condo somewhere near Fort Lauderdale. No one in his family has ever been to disney, except for when his wife was 2, 30+ years ago. I said, "well, if you plan ahead, you can get quite a lot of stuff done in one day if you are prepared." I told him they need to get to the park 30 or more minutes before it opens. He said, "well, we probably wouldn't get there til around 11am."

They are going the first week of april, prime spring break time, so it'll be crowded. I don't know why they are going then, his wife doesn't work and his kids aren't in school, so why they don't go at a less crowded time, I have no clue.

I already know what is going to happen. They are going to hate it. They are not going to know how to use the fastpasses, or know which rides to go to first. They aren't going to see much. And I'll feel partly to blame because I talk so highly of it. I told him that the best way to go there is when you really understand how the whole place works, and that the only way to do that is to go there often.
Oh well...maybe it'll turn out better.

Oh, I forgot, he didn't realize there was a distinction between Animal Kingdom and Animal Kingdom Lodge...oy.

Undoubtedly, when they return they will say to you, "we don't understand why you love that place so much!"
 

Bob Saget

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Most of the people on here have the same attitude I think. We all hear someone is going, we get jealous (doesn't matter if we were just there or are going soon) and we want to help. The person goes, has a less than great experience and trashes the place etc. We then have to advise them that if you had done x, y, and z, things would have been different. It is almost as if we are unofficial ambassadors for WDW and want people to go and have a great time so they can see the light. If they don't like it, you cannot make them understand, and that is a few less people in the park on my return visit.
Some people even get downright offended if WDW is not responded to as the greatest thing ever by their peers. It insults them that the other party involved didn't like the place as much. o_O I've never understood how people take opinions of the parks so personally(?)
Sure, I understand if someone is rude and says something along the lines of: "How can you love Disney so much?" or "Why do you always vacation to WDW?" Yeah, those types of remarks are personal & a putdown (whether intentional or not) toward a person's tastes. But some (okay, many) Disney fans get really offended & take it personally if someone who visits Disney simply says they did not have a good time. It's almost like a religious cult & an insult to the deity if WDW is not held to high esteem. But, come on! YOU did not build the place. YOU don't own the place. So why does it bother you?

You really don't hear about other products being taken so personally if it is not enjoyed 100%.
"I love Pepsi but my co-worker did not enjoy it as much. They must be drinking it wrong."
or
"Have you ever met someone who doesn't like Honda's?"

And for another illustration of this, go back to some of the older threads about those "surprise" videos gone wrong, and the kids were NOT excited to be going to WDW. Read some of the harsh comments about those kids because they did not jump for joy & foam at the mouth over WDW excitement.
Yeah...as Disney fans we can scare ourselves sometimes.
 

SMS55

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I've given up on telling others how to do their Disney trips. When people ask me I tell them how I do it and if they want to take my advice great. I refuse to get angry over someone else's vacation. Some people do ask me because they consider me the "Disney Expert" or Disney Nut" of the family and I am fine with that. My son hates going with his mom. They get up late and get to the parks around 11am, they leave early and such. He always says he likes how I plan some things out and we get the most for our money. I can always hear it in his voice when I call him to check in with him and see how it's going.
 

BigRedDad

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I hate when people butt into other peoples vacation. I know 100% what you are trying to do. The issue is you cannot change the mindset of people that simply do not like WDW. Think about it. They are going for 1 night and only going to 1 park. They do not care about going.

With a 1 and 3 year old, getting "a lot" done at multiple parks is not going to happen. Personally, I hate park hopping. I would rather spend an entire day in 1 park and enjoy all it has to offer, relax at the resort a little bit, and go back to the same park late afternoon into the evening.

Your co-worker is going to the beach, no WDW. WDW is a 24 hour distraction after a long drive. That is all.
 

AndyS2992

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Personally, I hate park hopping. I would rather spend an entire day in 1 park and enjoy all it has to offer, relax at the resort a little bit, and go back to the same park late afternoon into the evening.

This is what we do every trip and I would highly recommend that everyone does it like this if possible.:)

It's a vacation, not a race to do everything as quick as possible lol
 

musketeer

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Original Poster
It's a vacation, not a race to do everything as quick as possible lol

actually, for me, it kind of is. It isn't intended to be that way, but I find that the more I get to see in the first few days makes the rest of the time better. I'm not worrying so much about missing stuff that I want to see.
 

hiptwinmama

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All my friends come to me for advice because they say our trips look amazing... Then they don't listen to my advice. They come home exhausted and feeling like they miss out on a lot.
 

DisneyAubs

Active Member
Who knows. They may still have a great time. I would maybe give them a map to look at and offer to help make a plan once they've picked out a few things they want to do, but if they want to sleep in and get there late then so be it. Their idea of a good day probably doesn't equal our idea.

I have a friend who has been at least twice for a week each trip. My sister asked how the kids liked PotC and the friend confessed that they have never even been to Adventureland or Frontierland. Ever. Not in 2 weeks at the world. They just go in late, do Fantasyland, go to Tomorowland for Buzz, and that's it. Kind of makes my eye twitch just to think about it. But they LOVE Disney World and have a fabulous time while they're there. To each their own.
 

taz0162

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yeah it pays to have a general plan for your time there. And even then there are some variables that come into play. Our trip would have worked out with seeing just about everything until my son got the flu and was vaned to urgent care (By CSR who organized the van there and back for us at no charge) and we were not able to finish up the balance of World Showcase at Epcot. and if they are only planning on 2 days at the magic Kingdom and not taking advantage of any early magic hours and sleeping in and not starting until after 11:00AM they will be insome long lines. Will you at least explain FastPass to them because I have a feeling that if someone didn't they will think that it has an extra fee and avoid it. (6 Flags Great America by me charges $25 1 person, $35 2 people, $45 3 people, $55 4 people, and it keeps on going up. and this is for their cheaper version of 2 fast passes that they offer.) But back to MK - some people are just destined to fail when they opt not to plan on a 2 day trip.
 

Chrononymous

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I have had this happen to me a couple of times, when friends tell me that they are going to the World for the first time.
And I think "oh how exciting! How wonderful! Yo are going to have a great time!"

and then I think...
No you're not.
Because you are not me.

You don't see wonder and magic in everyday things, let alone a theme park full of it.
You look at things from the bottom line value of the dollar, rather than how it makes you feel
And you like to complain about weather, and how expensive everything is...because you have done it with every trip you have ever taken.
so no, you will probably be happily miserable, and no amount of help, or itineraries, or unofficial guide lending will make it otherwise.

On the other hand, I also have many friends that have been multiple times, and like me, they don't even really consider a vacation anywhere else.
And I can talk and laugh and understand these people, and get just as excited to hear about their trips, as they do to hear about mine!

But I realize we are an exceptional breed....
 

Florida_is_hot

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I do not like to interfere.
Walt Disney World is not for everybody I am fine with that.

I tell people if they ask, this works for me.
but ... it maybe a disaster for them and I do not pretend to know more than anybody.
 

musketeer

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Original Poster
I have had this happen to me a couple of times, when friends tell me that they are going to the World for the first time.
And I think "oh how exciting! How wonderful! Yo are going to have a great time!"

and then I think...
No you're not.
Because you are not me.

I think the same when I hear that. I know they aren't because I know the kind of person it is. I really don't think one can really have a good time there until their 2nd or probably even 3rd visit. Think of all the stuff they DON'T know about. Like the key under the mat, or the picture of Mr. Toad, or that Mr. Morrow is about to be paged, or that the person guarding the jewel is your tourguide.
 

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