Don't expect to have a magical time using a Electric car

[urbanvegan]

Here's the difference. We live in a country that is Sizeist, that means prejudiced against people of size. Most things such as finding fashionable clothing, access easily through turnstiles and stuff, are what is called thin privelage. As in, you can get these benifits if you are thin and acceptable to society.

Size-ism?

Want to talk about discrimination in this country? What if fat people couldn't get married or adopt children; if they could be barred from housing or be denied jobs based on the fact that they are fat?

THAT is discrimination.

I'm not trying to jack the thread but that is a ridiculous assertion.

 

[alilance]

Here's the difference. We live in a country that is Sizeist, that means prejudiced against people of size. Most things such as finding fashionable clothing, access easily through turnstiles and stuff, are what is called thin privelage. As in, you can get these benifits if you are thin and acceptable to society.

Also many people belive, that the best thing for a fat person is to walk to loose the pounds. Where as science, and I mean true science, not the science on TV that keeps perpetuating the body-machine model of thinking. Has proven that people's bodies naturally fall into a set-point weight. That is if you're let's say 200 something pounds, if you try to diet your body will force itself back to the 200 pounds range. This is why diets don't work.

So that's pretty much it. Alot of people like to stereotype fat people as being lazy, and what's a better example of that then them riding a EVC vs walking.

I'm not really sure what you mean? Diets do work. It's called eat a low fat diet and exercise. No one's body has a "set point weight!" I've never heard of that before!?!

 

[Laura]

violet_yoshi, I am really flabbergasted at your attitude.

First of all, from what you've described you are an obese person who has no medical reason to be obese and who doesn't diet because of a factoid you've seen on TV. You don't feel like walking through the parks so you fork over $75 to stay off your feet. You feel that anyone who pays for that extra perk (the ECV) should be given special "disability" treatment, whether they have a disability or not.

If I'm being honest, you have this very hostile, entitled, resentful, mean-spirited aura about you. I can just picture you jerking an ECV around and grumbling and scowling at everyone.

Could your nasty, self-centered attitude perhaps be the reason people treat you negatively? I suspect that regardless of the reason you rented the ECV, if you were polite, cheerful, and friendly that you'd have a better experience. If you were to come around me with your attitude, I certainly would not be friendly towards you, nor would I be in any sort of a hurry to help you out as you were slamming your "electric car" into poles.

I was going to give you the benefit of a doubt until I saw where someone said you had wanted to ban all children from public places. That shows what a "gem" of a person you really are.

And stop playing off your complaints as if you actually care about disabled people. You are using that as an excuse to rant about your own imagined "problems". Most disabled people probably do not endure the hassles you complained about because they probably actually NEED the ECV that they rent and they probably have a much friendlier, less selfish demeanor.

 

[urbanvegan]

Also many people belive, that the best thing for a fat person is to walk to loose the pounds. Where as science, and I mean true science, not the science on TV that keeps perpetuating the body-machine model of thinking. Has proven that people's bodies naturally fall into a set-point weight. That is if you're let's say 200 something pounds, if you try to diet your body will force itself back to the 200 pounds range. This is why diets don't work.

So that's pretty much it. Alot of people like to stereotype fat people as being lazy, and what's a better example of that then them riding a EVC vs walking.

That is just ludicrous. Fat people are not necessarily lazy, no. But diet and exercise work. That is hardly "science on TV" but rather real biology. Your theory is without a speck of merit.

That is millions of years of evolution talking, sorry to inform you.

 

[urbanvegan]

And stop playing off your complaints as if you actually care about disabled people. You are using that as an excuse to rant about your own imagined "problems". Most disabled people probably do not endure the hassles you complained about because they probably actually NEED the ECV that they rent and they probably have a much friendlier, less selfish demeanor.

Thank you! I feel like we are riding on Big Thunder Martyr Railroad.

 

[alilance]

Another thing that really urks me about people that don't need these wheelchair/electric chairs (whatever) is that last time I went to Epcot, my mom had to wait over an hour and a half for a wheelchair because there were none available at that time. Why? Because some people DON'T NEED THEM and are LAZY. My mom is young, vibrant, and only 54 years old, but she has CANCER and is sick and wanted to go to Disney World. So she had to wait while others take advantage of the system! Sorry everyone, I had to vent!!

 

[imagineer boy]

Hello, I'm the electric car. I don't go very fast or very far, and if you drive me, people will think you're gay.

"one of us." "one of us."

 

[mpoppins217]

I don't even know anymore. So many people are trying to kick my butt on here for using an EVC to get around the park instead of walking, I really don't care about it anymore. Nobody is paying attention to where I say I'm concerned for people who do need an EVC having to go through all that trouble.

You're completely missing the point it seems. Everyone is supporting the use of ECVs if you truly need them, what people are getting upset about is the fact that you are acting like you just used it for simple convenience and then expected to be treated like royalty. That's why I asked if you had a condition or not, because people were getting confused because of your original post. If you are truly disabled then you should not get upset because no one on here is refering to you and have simply misjudged your original post.

So again I ask, what is your condition that required the use of an ECV or do you not have one? If you clarify that then perhaps people can better understand (and if I missed where you stated what your condition is then I apologize, just kindly remind me).

 

[violet_yoshi]

Size-ism?

Want to talk about discrimination in this country? What if fat people couldn't get married or adopt children; if they could be barred from housing or be denied jobs based on the fact that they are fat?

THAT is discrimination.

I'm not trying to jack the thread but that is a ridiculous assertion.

Guess what, fat people have been banned from adopting children.

 

[rimousefan84]

I understand that after your experience at WDW you want to work with disabled individuals. As a teacher I deal with many disabilities on a daily basis. It seems that you are sending mixed signals, on one hand you want to be treated as equals but on the other hand you want people to move out of the way of your 50 pound vehicle. ECV users should obey by the same rules as traditional walking. You shouldnt be allowed to push your way through crowds as you suggested with your airhorn. You should wait patiently just as walkers do. OR, dare I say be courteous and say excuse me rather than use the rediculous horn that comes equipped on these vehicles. In societ today we are all losing our social skills, deciding to text rather than call. So instead of expecting people to get out of your way, speak to them and tell them how you feel.

 

[violet_yoshi]

Ok so here's what I've basically learned from this thread:

1. If you're disabled, you need to act like sunshine to everyone, otherwise you'll be seen as burdensome.

2. You should have visible proof of some sort that you are indeed disabled, lest anyone suggest you're cheating.

3. If you have any problems, like overheating in the park from obesity and walking too much, too bad bucko. That's not a disability you should just walk until your fat butt becomes thin.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[urbanvegan]

Guess what, fat people have been banned from adopting children.

They have not been "banned". Not by law. I'm talking about real, legal discrimination.

 

[Erika]

Alright, guys, this has been an interesting read but please keep it civil and on topic and refrain from personal attacks.

Please don't rent an ECV unless you really need one. Please don't pass judgment on who "looks" disabled enough to need one.

Ay ay ay

 

[dazzer68]

Wow, aren't you full of hate. I know what Munchausen Syndrome is, smart aleck. Nobody seems to want to notice that I said I empathize WITH disabled people who need to use the EVC. Not that I was throwing a temper tantrum cause I was concerned about, me me me.

I was upset at the idea that people who might need the EVC would be treated that way. I was thinking of OTHER PEOPLE. Congrats to your amazing searching of search engines, and Wikipedia knowledge though.

no not full of hate at all..it was just an observation, from other posts you have afew 'illnesses' none of which require you to have evc, but you ue these 'illnesses' to get attention which is a sympton of munchausen, and im sure you do know what it is,(!) i empathize with disable people too who need to use the evc, but i dont need to hire one to find out, i sympathsize with women going through childbirth but i wouldnt do it myself.your remarks are patronising to true in need disabled people, not overweight bad attitude ones who think the world owes them something.

you want all children banned from restaurants, and everyone else to get out of your way, whose got the issues here? why go to wdw if you dont want to interact with people?

as for the congratulations of using search engines its no big deal, its very easy to do,if your gonna throw your illnesses up on this thread, why shouldnt the reader research it to get the full picture of your issues,as i didnt know what the illness was or the implications of it,but its a hearing problem, nothing to do with ones ability to walk or require the evc.

looking at other peoples replies here it doesnt look like it is the standard way disney looks after its evc users, just your experience, so whats that tell you?