Tater48
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I LIKE your way of thinking.
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Does Michael Jackson belong at WDW?
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I LIKE your way of thinking.
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
You know, and maybe I should not admit this in public, but I once had experience with a grown man that would have me sleepover, sometimes in his bed, when I was a child.
I have come to known this man as, "Dad."
Children literally "sleep with" adults all the time, and not just biological parents. Sometimes the adult is a grandparent, or aunt or uncle, or sometimes a close friend of the parent, or even a babysitter. I know plenty of adults that would treat the children of their close friends as their own, and in no way-shape-or-form fear inappropriateness.
At the end of the day, we should not forget that MJ was a father. His children have consistently displayed evidence of heart-breaking love and appreciation for their late dad. To intrude on the sanctity of his role as a father...
I have come to known this man as, "Dad."
Children literally "sleep with" adults all the time, and not just biological parents. Sometimes the adult is a grandparent, or aunt or uncle, or sometimes a close friend of the parent, or even a babysitter. I know plenty of adults that would treat the children of their close friends as their own, and in no way-shape-or-form fear inappropriateness.
At the end of the day, we should not forget that MJ was a father. His children have consistently displayed evidence of heart-breaking love and appreciation for their late dad. To intrude on the sanctity of his role as a father...
stlbobby
Well-Known Member
First, if MJ is being used at WDW all his baggage comes with it and is is reasonable to discuss that.
Second, you weren't trying to have a civil conversation. You were chastising posters for expressing their views. You were trying to drag down a vibrant interesting conversation.
Third, I didn't say you couldn't post, I only asked why you keep jumping in, not to actually participate, but to just berate.
Fourth, your fact was absolutely false, this is the only thread actually dedicated to this topic.
Finally, if you are offended by anything posted on these boards, especially the absolutely civil and banal comments I made, I feel sorry for you.
stlbobby
Well-Known Member
Wow so many things are just wrong in this post.:ROFLOL:
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Honor your mother and father....honor the lord....DO NOT honor someone of the ilk of Michael Jackson. :brick:
steviej
Well-Known Member
:lol: maybe i'm biased, cause ill be honest, im a huge MJ fan, so like I said, i'm biased, but still, made me laugh
steviej
Well-Known Member
it's just my opinion that MJ is the greatest entertainer ever, and I would certainly think that many many other people would say the same thing
You realize the man molested children (plural), right? You find that funny?
Horizons1
Well-Known Member
Ok, prove the first one. To me, it seems as though the only way to bring MJ's baggage with him is if you bring it yourself. So I would like proof that because MJ is at WDW, his baggage has come with him. I have yet to hear of any accusations that EO came out of the screen and touched a small boy, but I have not been up to the office in a few days. Maybe I will hear about it tomorrow when I get to work. But even so, I'd still like to see your proof.
Second, don't tell me what I'm trying to do and what I'm not trying to do. You want to attack me so you're going to percieve my post as a threat to everyone else. I'm trying to be civil, but you keep trying to force upon me that I am not and are attempting to start a fight. But I hold myself on a much higher level, so you're wasting your time.
Third, I am participating. It may not be how you like it, and it may not be your opinion, but it is participation. I merely made a point, but because you don't agree with my point, you are accusing me of berating the other posters, which I do not come here for. You are the one doing the berating, and it is of my posts and opinions.
Fourth, apparently you have not been around and just joined the other day. There have been numerous threads about MJ being in WDW. Just because you don't want to believe it, does not mean it is not true. You're making yourself out to be very ignorant because you want badly to be correct about this.
Finally, your comments have slowly degraded into attacks upon me and my posts because they do not agree with your opinion. I am not sorry I do not agree with you but I do feel sorry for you because you refuse to acknowledge simple truths. But that's ok, we welcome all types at WDW. I appreciate your concern about me, but I don't need your pity. It is better used on yourself. For future reference, I would like you to think about using the search button in the forums. That way situations like this will not happen to you again.
Monty
Brilliant...and Canadian
- In the Parks
- No
No. "The man" didn't.
He was accused and exonerated. Unless you were personally present to witness otherwise [which would make you as deplorable as you accuse him of being] or, God forbid, was a child actually molested by him [which makes you pitiable], you cannot state that as fact.
I just did.
Watch, it's a two'fer: OJ killed his wife. I didn't personally witness that one either.
jakeman
Well-Known Member
Krack runs over old ladies with her car.
There. I don't need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to state things as fact anymore so I said it: Krack is an old lady killer.
In both cases the jury could not decide beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occured. It doesn't mean that it didn't, but if a jury couldn't decide then there was something there that pointed the jury in the other direction. The way I think of it, if the doubt was there in the court room, that should transfer to the real world.
Whether the accusations of molestation is enough to tarnish a reputation so much that a person shouldn't be represented in WDW is a valid arguement, but I don't think that any of us are in a position to definitively say that a crime occured.
Now, I eagerly await: "Judicial system is corrupt." "I don't care, I've made up my mind." and possibly "Blah blah blah HORIZONS!"
EO doesn't belong in Epcot because a park dedicated to the future shouldn't be reviving 25 year old films. That's the extent of it for me.
GoofyFan1
Active Member
That is what this discussion should be about, not just because I agree with your point but all the other arguements are not furthering the discussion as to whether or not WDW will remain the leader in theme parks. In my opinion...rehashing 3D videos from the early 80's is not keeping WDW competitive. Once the MJ fans see the film the interest will die off very quickly. What then WDW?
Want to "honor" the entertainer? Put something, some kind of display, not a show that takes away from other attractions, in DHS that people can go see if they want. Isn't that the entertainment park?:shrug:
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Well as much as this post made me chuckle, I have to take issue with a couple things. One, just saying krack kills old ladies is much different then him being accused and investigated, then paying you 15 million dollars to just shut up about it.
And in our courts the burden of proof is on the prosecution. So even if it is 95% that someone committed a crime, but there is a hint of doubt, that person skates. Not to get into the merits of our judicial system or anything, but being declared innocent is much different then being proved innocent. IMO, and the opinion of many many people, he was more then likely guilty of the crimes he was accused of. And even if he was not, the other things he was guilty of doing are more then enough for me to wish they would keep him out of WDW.
The Disney Kid
Well-Known Member
He was accused twice. Only once was he exonerated. The other time he settled out of court for $20 million. You don't cough up $20 million in hush money unless there is something to hush up.:hammer:
Mr. Morrow
New Member
I saw it he said the kids slept in his bed. Never once did he admitt to sexula assult. I think some people were simply thring to get some money. It wouldn't be the first time. Tawana Brawley, The Duke Lacross case, David Letterman.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Lets be honest his records were criminal.
Cha'Mone
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Evil Genius
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This thread seems to have lost any sense on intellectual discourse.
steviej
Well-Known Member
No, I believe you misunderstood me, I meant that Unkadug's comment before mine cracked me up. I absolutely do not believe that the accusations against MJ were funny.