Does Disney have enough land left?...

[jrobinson424]

I know that Disney purchased about 27,000 acres when the land was purchased in the 60's. I have heard that they sat aside about 9,000 acres for wildlife preservations. If and doubtfully when they decide to build a fifth park, do they actually have enough land left to do so? I have seen aerial photos of the world, and with all the resorts and parks and how they are laid out, I didn't really see where they had 200-300 acres in one spot for development. If they do, where do you think the next park would be built?

 

[JKovach]

Walt Disney World is roughly (Maybe more now with some of the new resorts going in) but about.. 35-40% (can someone back me up here?) filled. Meaning, 60-65% of its land is entirely unused... Yes some of it is for wild-life... but, they have enough space to put in about 2 more parks and about 10 more resorts until it starts getting clustered...

 

[DisneyRoxMySox]

I thought 47,000 acres were purchased. I might be wrong. Whatever it is, only 40% of it developed. Plenty of room for further development. But fix the old parks first!! :goodnevil

 

[jrobinson424]

I agree with fixing the parks first. I thought that the world was 27,000 acres and 47 square miles. In any event, my question is answered. Thanks people.

 

[Connor002]

someone on the boards said that they purchased land somewhere else in kissimee so that they always have the conservation land set aside

either way, i was looking on google earth and it still looks like they have alot of room

and they can always buy more (theireticly, that is:animwink: )

 

[HMGhost13]

couple years back we heard only 24% of WDW was currently being "used". guide said enough for 3 more theme parks, 2 more water parks and a slew of resorts.

 

[TheOneVader]

Out of the 30,000 acres owned by Disney in Disney World, they've used a grand total of 7,000 or so acres. So they have plenty left, the only obstacle is the amount of large land spaces for, say, a theme park. A lot of the undeveloped land cannot fit a theme park, at least from my crude judgements from Google Earth.

 

[donsullivan]

someone on the boards said that they purchased land somewhere else in kissimee so that they always have the conservation land set aside ....

You may be thinking of the land that I believe was called Walker Ranch in South Osceola County that they bought back in the 90's. As I recall, that was bought as a wetlands set aside in exchange for some development permitting they wanted for Celebration. There was an area of wetlands in Celebration that they wanted to fill and they bought the other property guaranteeing it would remain untouched in exchange for the permits.

 

[marni1971]

There is enough land left for at least one full park (no locations, theme or dates have ever been mentioned...) plus various resorts, ancillary attractions and the like, and expansion of MGM and AK (again, no specifics)

There are still the plots for the Studios themed resorts, plus the original Persian site (with a bit of cosmetic work) and some never built phase 3 Bay Lake developments. Plus if they can reshore the Venitian/Meditteranian resort site there is another deluxe resort, not forgetting the Kingdom Suites Resort site between the Contemporary and the MK either.

A lot of the remaining land however will stay as it is - part of the delicate water managment program implemented in 1967 to keep the water table balanced; WDW`s water control system is a central part of Florida`s entire water network; if mishandled it could in theory affect large areas North of WDW, and also cause real problems in central and southern Florida. Plus, a lot of the property is designated flood plain and will never be built on - in a 100 year storm scenario as RCID puts it 40% of the MK parking lot and areas of LBV would be underwater, plus the flood plains (one reason why AK is and will remain as long and thin as it is.)

Bearing in mind a lot of this may take decades!

 

[Lynx04]

Disney has more then enough land to develop, Disney has more land then they need. I think the real question is, will they ever hit a capacity level which would require them use all the land? No, they will never hit that level. The rest of the property will be developed for resorts, a fifth park is highly unlikely.

 

[DisJosh]

Disney has more then enough land to develop, Disney has more land then they need. I think the real question is, will they ever hit a capacity level which would require them use all the land? No, they will never hit that level. The rest of the property will be developed for resorts, a fifth park is highly unlikely.

You say they will never hit that large capacity level...if so then why in the world would they develope more resorts? The second half of Pop Century has yet to be finished because it's simply not needed. I don't think any new resorts will be on the table for a while.

 

[Lynx04]

You say they will never hit that large capacity level...if so then why in the world would they develope more resorts? The second half of Pop Century has yet to be finished because it's simply not needed. I don't think any new resorts will be on the table for a while.

Disney will never hit the capcity level that will require a 5th park, I say that with a 99% certainty. Having said that, there will be a rise in the need for room capacity as the rate of vistors increase. Capacity level in the current parks can be expanded to a higher capacity, to meet the future increase in attendence. However, building another park requires that the market already exist since we all know from AK and IOA expansion that adding parks don't increase attendence, they only eat into the other park attendence. I think their is plenty of potential capacity at all the current parks to deal with the increase need for resort rooms for decades.

 

[Tom]

Disney will never hit the capcity level that will require a 5th park, I say that with a 99% certainty. Having said that, there will be a rise in the need for room capacity as the rate of vistors increase. Capacity level in the current parks can be expanded to a higher capacity, to meet the future increase in attendence. However, building another park requires that the market already exist since we all know from AK and IOA expansion that adding parks don't increase attendence, they only eat into the other park attendence. I think their is plenty of potential capacity at all the current parks to deal with the increase need for resort rooms for decades.

They probably said this exact same thing in 1971, 1982, 1989 and 1998.....we can "predict" the future, but I would put money that someday attendance will support a 5th gate and more resorts, as the population grows.

 

[Lynx04]

They probably said this exact same thing in 1971, 1982, 1989 and 1998.....we can "predict" the future, but I would put money that someday attendance will support a 5th gate and more resorts, as the population grows.

Which is why I said 99% sure that it won't happen, nothing is 100%, except death.

Diseny always had plans to build more parks after MK, EPCOT, and MGM. But with Orlando market already over saturated with parks, the need is shrinking ever more. Which lead Disney to make the statement that there are no parks planned and that don't think they will build another park in Orlando. However, if all of a sudden Disney was filling all there parks to capacity most of the year and demand kept growing than obvoiusly another park would be built to add the capacity. Nothing is writen into stone, at the same time when you apply all the factors listed above, it would prove to be a waste of time and money to research and develop a park that obviously won't being coming anytime soon, if at all.