magicjay1989
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Yes they have two theaters but only one preshow theater.
They have that unused self service restraunt next to it thats never open. Put the gift shop there!
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Does anyone LIKE the Stitch/Alien idea besides me?
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Yes they have two theaters but only one preshow theater.
They have that unused self service restraunt next to it thats never open. Put the gift shop there!
Dr Albert Falls
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No offense--- but some of you really do LIVE in Fantasyland.
First of all- the suggestion of putting Stitch in the Timekeeper building.
Disney is NOT building a brand-new attraction from scratch. That was never the plan. That's certainly not the budget.
They're enhancing Alien Encounter for the purpose of ENHANCING ALIEN ENCOUNTER-- an attraction that generates complains, has little repeat value, generally gets low marks by typical park guests, and often has little or no wait.
Contrary to popular believe, Disney does not make changes for the sake of change. They've got to have a concrete reason to show corporate beancounters why money should be spent on upgrading an attraction-- especially an attraction as relatively new as AE.
Second-- the suggestion of having two separate shows in the two separate theaters.
Except for peak travel seasons, Disney rarely uses both theaters. Most days, they only need ONE. By keeping both open all the time, Disney would unnecessarily be doubling their maintainence and staffing costs.
Do you really think its practical to run two separate queues in that small area? That alone would require the hiring of additional cast members, not to mention the most confusing queue instructions in Disney history. Chances are, that set-up alone would generate the same guest complaints Disney is trying to reduce.
First of all- the suggestion of putting Stitch in the Timekeeper building.
Disney is NOT building a brand-new attraction from scratch. That was never the plan. That's certainly not the budget.
They're enhancing Alien Encounter for the purpose of ENHANCING ALIEN ENCOUNTER-- an attraction that generates complains, has little repeat value, generally gets low marks by typical park guests, and often has little or no wait.
Contrary to popular believe, Disney does not make changes for the sake of change. They've got to have a concrete reason to show corporate beancounters why money should be spent on upgrading an attraction-- especially an attraction as relatively new as AE.
Second-- the suggestion of having two separate shows in the two separate theaters.
Except for peak travel seasons, Disney rarely uses both theaters. Most days, they only need ONE. By keeping both open all the time, Disney would unnecessarily be doubling their maintainence and staffing costs.
Do you really think its practical to run two separate queues in that small area? That alone would require the hiring of additional cast members, not to mention the most confusing queue instructions in Disney history. Chances are, that set-up alone would generate the same guest complaints Disney is trying to reduce.
Dr. Albert,
I'm surprised that people are even talking about having 2 separate shows. Does anyone realistically think there is even a 0.00000001% chance of that even happening?
Disney would have gutted Peter Pan if people didn't like and and/or didn't ride it. People have to face the facts, Pooh was an incredibley worthy addition to the MK (which I prefer over Toad) and I'm sure Stitch/Alien will do the same.
Yes I like to keep original attractions and it would be great if they never closed a "classic". But if Mr. Toad was popular with the average guests and Snow Whitw wasn't, they would have chopped off Dopey's head instead.
Appears I'm in the minority as I love the Pooh ride, Stitch idea and the new Tiki room (which I liked the original-but seeing the original for the first time in many years over at DL cemented my opinion on the absolute need for a change-it was a snoozefest)
But I love Cop & Time Keeper, so I'm not just a "newbie" lover
I'm surprised that people are even talking about having 2 separate shows. Does anyone realistically think there is even a 0.00000001% chance of that even happening?
Disney would have gutted Peter Pan if people didn't like and and/or didn't ride it. People have to face the facts, Pooh was an incredibley worthy addition to the MK (which I prefer over Toad) and I'm sure Stitch/Alien will do the same.
Yes I like to keep original attractions and it would be great if they never closed a "classic". But if Mr. Toad was popular with the average guests and Snow Whitw wasn't, they would have chopped off Dopey's head instead.
Appears I'm in the minority as I love the Pooh ride, Stitch idea and the new Tiki room (which I liked the original-but seeing the original for the first time in many years over at DL cemented my opinion on the absolute need for a change-it was a snoozefest)
But I love Cop & Time Keeper, so I'm not just a "newbie" lover
Snowflake82
Active Member
I'm with you, Kevin. I'm looking forward to Stitch. I was just hoping to get to see AE a couple more times before it goes down, but it looks like that won't be a possibility when we go in November.
Even though I'm looking forward to Stitch, I do think that Disney needs to continue to develop new, original stories and characters for attractions. Not everything should be based on a movie. And something should definitely be done with Timekeeper. I liked it when it first opened, but it doesn't seem to have much repeatability for me. It takes up too much real estate for something that is not open all the time. On the other hand, CoP should be left alone (except for maybe updating the last segment) and open all the time! (just my personal opinion, not a business recommendation.)
-Jennifer
Even though I'm looking forward to Stitch, I do think that Disney needs to continue to develop new, original stories and characters for attractions. Not everything should be based on a movie. And something should definitely be done with Timekeeper. I liked it when it first opened, but it doesn't seem to have much repeatability for me. It takes up too much real estate for something that is not open all the time. On the other hand, CoP should be left alone (except for maybe updating the last segment) and open all the time! (just my personal opinion, not a business recommendation.)
-Jennifer
Snapper Bean
Active Member
I agree I am looking forward to a Stich makeover of Alien Encounter as well. I might be wrong but it seems to me that a "fun" attraction has a higher likelihood of repeat use than a "scary" attraction.. Do I agree with all of Disney's decisions regarding their parks? No. However, I also think that they have way more demographic information that I do to make those decisions.
dxwwf3
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by KevinPage
Dr. Albert,
I'm surprised that people are even talking about having 2 separate shows. Does anyone realistically think there is even a 0.00000001% chance of that even happening?
Disney would have gutted Peter Pan if people didn't like and and/or didn't ride it. People have to face the facts, Pooh was an incredibley worthy addition to the MK (which I prefer over Toad) and I'm sure Stitch/Alien will do the same.
Yes I like to keep original attractions and it would be great if they never closed a "classic". But if Mr. Toad was popular with the average guests and Snow Whitw wasn't, they would have chopped off Dopey's head instead.
Appears I'm in the minority as I love the Pooh ride, Stitch idea and the new Tiki room (which I liked the original-but seeing the original for the first time in many years over at DL cemented my opinion on the absolute need for a change-it was a snoozefest)
But I love Cop & Time Keeper, so I'm not just a "newbie" lover
I agree that change is usually a good thing. Man I loved Horizons to death but I'm also glad to see Mission Space. The big complaint I have with the AE changeover (besides the whole originality thing) is it seems like they are going to "downgrade" the effects. To me and other AE fans it feels like a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Sure they could do a really good job with Stitch but if they make it too scary and thrilling it will scare kids even more but if they make it too kiddy it could really bore us young adults. And for me really the biggest complaint is that they are taking away an attraction for teens and young adults and replacing it with something mainly for kids. Now if there were alot of other things geared for our age group then, while I would hate to see it go still, I could part with AE alot easier. And if there wasn't already a surpluss of things for little ones to do then I would understand also. But the fact remains that there isnt much geard for us at the MK. Take away Splash and Space Mtn. and what else is aimed for our age group? (I'm not saying that we don't like other things but it's good to have things specifically designed for us too).
The thing is though- no one knows exaxtly what is going to be done with the addition of Stitch. Everyone is screamin that the effects will be downgraded, yet there is no proof offered of what exactly it is going to entail. We heard a 10 week rehab, now a 10 month rehab. 10 months is plenty of time to revamp an attraction the proper way.(if it was 10 weeks I'd be worried a bit)
One side of the coin is JIYI(bad), the other is the Tiki birds(good). The Tiki birds, love it or hate it, has alot more going on, and more things to look at. So I don't see the need for all the "chicken little" syndrome going on.
The lack of originality remark baffles me as well. Philharmagic is new and original, so is Everest & Mission Space. MGM auto Stunt show and Soarin are clones, but they are still unique/excellent Disney atractions.
So where's the problem? Are we just assuming JIYI and running with that mindset?
Disney seems to be doing a heck of alot right these days with new attractions (not to mention an UPGRADED fireworks show at MK) so if anything, they should be given the benefit of the doubt
One side of the coin is JIYI(bad), the other is the Tiki birds(good). The Tiki birds, love it or hate it, has alot more going on, and more things to look at. So I don't see the need for all the "chicken little" syndrome going on.
The lack of originality remark baffles me as well. Philharmagic is new and original, so is Everest & Mission Space. MGM auto Stunt show and Soarin are clones, but they are still unique/excellent Disney atractions.
So where's the problem? Are we just assuming JIYI and running with that mindset?
Disney seems to be doing a heck of alot right these days with new attractions (not to mention an UPGRADED fireworks show at MK) so if anything, they should be given the benefit of the doubt
Shaman
Well-Known Member
You make good points...for now all we can do is talk about possiblities...I just hope that in the end the attraction is better and not worst. I'm not giving Disney the benefit of the doubt (for now atleast) I'm just waiting to experience the new attraction to judge and criticize it.
However, I don't like the whole idea of adding an animated character...Stitch...to a ride like AE. And that is something that I can say before the ride comes out....because I don't know about anyone else but I'm tired of the animated characters invading attractions. Just my opinion.
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I too am excited to see Stitch invade AE. It's natural to react negatively and think that this will be the worst mistake in Disney history but that's where faith, love and pixie dust come in. We really don't know much of anything about the enchancement. It could turn out absolutely fabulously. And there is still room for Skippy to play a big part.
CrackerJack
Member
I will start out by saying that I am not in favor of the Stitch redo. The one thing that I really like about AE now is the "scare factor". The problem with "scare factor" it that it diminishes as repeat rides increase. I'm sure this is one of the reasons that ToT now has multiple drops instead of the original one drop. Attractions cannot continue to offer the same level of "scare factor" as were present during the first ride.
This is why AE has bad repeatability. If you cannot just let go and enjoy the experience freshly each time you are in the attraction, there is no need to revisit it. Basically, then it becomes just sitting in a dark room.
But AE is more than "scare factor". It is original -- there is nothing like it in any amusement park that I have ever been in. It is not a kiddy ride, as are many of the rides in the MK (although I still really enjoy them, being a big kid). It is not an advertisement for some movie or toy. And the preshow is genuinely funny.
I would say the biggest problem with it is that it depends on the audience's minds. We have become so dependent on the visual, that it is too difficult to derive the excitement from our other senses. [strictly my opinion]
I believe the Stitch redo will have little to no scare factor. That way it will be kid friendly and therefore more repeatable (as kids do not tire of things as quickly as adults and if the kids go on the attraction, mom and dad have to follow). And there will be many more gift opportunities.
At least we still have Small World -- without a doubt the scariest ride in the park. Anytime I go on it, the thought goes through my head "What if you just continue to go from room to room without ever being let off the ride ?" Truly frightening ... :veryconfu
Maybe they should have Stitch terrorize the Small World dolls and leave AE alone. That would make me very happy
This is why AE has bad repeatability. If you cannot just let go and enjoy the experience freshly each time you are in the attraction, there is no need to revisit it. Basically, then it becomes just sitting in a dark room.
But AE is more than "scare factor". It is original -- there is nothing like it in any amusement park that I have ever been in. It is not a kiddy ride, as are many of the rides in the MK (although I still really enjoy them, being a big kid). It is not an advertisement for some movie or toy. And the preshow is genuinely funny.
I would say the biggest problem with it is that it depends on the audience's minds. We have become so dependent on the visual, that it is too difficult to derive the excitement from our other senses. [strictly my opinion]
I believe the Stitch redo will have little to no scare factor. That way it will be kid friendly and therefore more repeatable (as kids do not tire of things as quickly as adults and if the kids go on the attraction, mom and dad have to follow). And there will be many more gift opportunities.
At least we still have Small World -- without a doubt the scariest ride in the park. Anytime I go on it, the thought goes through my head "What if you just continue to go from room to room without ever being let off the ride ?" Truly frightening ... :veryconfu
Maybe they should have Stitch terrorize the Small World dolls and leave AE alone. That would make me very happy
Alien Encounter
Rode AE for the first time in November. Its been around for 8 years? and last year was the first time I have ridden it...thats odd....anywho...BRING BACK 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and AXE Ariels Grotto :hurl:
Rode AE for the first time in November. Its been around for 8 years? and last year was the first time I have ridden it...thats odd....anywho...BRING BACK 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and AXE Ariels Grotto :hurl:
mickeysaver
Well-Known Member
AE is mega lame. I want Stitch! Mickey
Mickey
Katherine
Well-Known Member
I've never actually been on the ride because i get scared sooo easily, especially when it comes to things to make you believe it's happening(I haven't been to see a 3D show for a long time for that reason). I am excited to have a ride that would be more fun creepy than scary creepy there. I'm excited for the rehab!
Goofster
Member
screamscape posted a small update with a possibly about the story of the stitch update. They say that SIR will stay, but will be some kind of an alien detainment facility guard or something, where they are keeping stitch, and stitch will take skippy's place inside the tubes, then when you get to the main show area, it might still be Stitch that wreaks havoc on the theater, but it might be a different comparably eviler alien, too. Who knows, we'll see
MonorailGreen
New Member
Alien Encounter Closing
I think that this attraction leaving may be what Tomorrowland needs to bounce back to being the best land in the park. A lot still needs to be done in the land but this is a big step in the right direction.
I think that this attraction leaving may be what Tomorrowland needs to bounce back to being the best land in the park. A lot still needs to be done in the land but this is a big step in the right direction.
Fido
Member
I rode AE once back in the mid 90's. It was alright, but I never had a desire to go back since. I'm interested in what they might do with it. It is always sad to see an attraction change, but sometimes it turns out to be the better choice. I'm not saying that will be the case here, and it certainly wasn't with Horizons, WOM and Imagination. We'll see.
mr snrub
New Member
when i heard about the change, i was outraged. Then agter i went on the ride, i was glad i wouold never have to go on it again. Its really not that great.
The only reason people care about it now is taht its closing.
Once they decide to close the tomorrowland speedway, people will make it thier avatars and sign petitons for it to stay.
The only reason people care about it now is taht its closing.
Once they decide to close the tomorrowland speedway, people will make it thier avatars and sign petitons for it to stay.
Michael72688
New Member
I think this is the worst thing that disney will have ever done. and they wonder why less and less teens go disney and go Islands or Adventure instead