DL vs. WDW - My observations

devoy1701

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How about the queues for Nemo Submarines, (most of) Space Mountain, and Matterhorn? They have little to no theming IMO...but I also didn't like loading outside for IASW either...you're right in any case about how it's just our individual taste...


being from Florida and at the parks multiple times in a month...i actually like the queues being outside. Its so refreshing that you can be outside getting some fresh (hopefully not too smoggy) air and not be sweating to death. Some of the ones you mentioned do lack theming...Space is ontop of a roof, and the Matterhorn is really just a small switch back that wraps around the mountain at time. But the queue area for IASW is nice (except for when the parade is about to come through).
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
Disagree about Space mt. It's better in WDW, and overhyped at DL. Nice soundtrack, nice effects, horrible boring roller coaster.

No, it's not. WDW's is a joke in comparison.

I like the outside of IASW at DL, but the inside looks better in WDW.

Disagree. I hate WDW's IASW, and begrudgingly rode the one at DLR. I loved the one at DLR. I still can't stand to ride through WDW's. Though I do like how the flume is imbedded at WDW.

Pirates, agree.

Agree as well. the ride is far superior, but the queue doesn't have anything to offer.

Thunder mt. I lean a bit more toward WDW's because of the "sinking town" that's missing at DL.

Was closed the week I was there.

Oh ya, the fireworks, "Magical" was amazing at DL. I don't know if it's still running, but we saw it last year and it is way better than any fireworks show WDW has put together.

I don't care for fireworks shows or parades, I find them boring and pointless. For me, Disneyland was a much more enjoyable experience. WDW seemed cold and impersonal, whereas Disneyland looked like a lot of love was put into it.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
No, it's not. WDW's is a joke in comparison.



Disagree. I hate WDW's IASW, and begrudgingly rode the one at DLR. I loved the one at DLR. I still can't stand to ride through WDW's. Though I do like how the flume is imbedded at WDW.



Agree as well. the ride is far superior, but the queue doesn't have anything to offer.



Was closed the week I was there.



I don't care for fireworks shows or parades, I find them boring and pointless. For me, Disneyland was a much more enjoyable experience. WDW seemed cold and impersonal, whereas Disneyland looked like a lot of love was put into it.


whole-heartedly agree with your last statement. I think I fell in love with DL the moment I stepped foot in the park. It definitely has a more cozy feeling that MK. I think MK lost some of that feeling when they started cutting down those trees in the Hub.
 

mcjaco

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Park/Rides: My wife said it best, DL is charming, WDW is grand. I'm not knocking DL in anyway, I like it there... I just like WDW better.
POTC - The ride at DL is better, the queue at WDW wins.
SPACE MOUNTAIN - The same, ride is better in DL, queue is better in WDW
BIG THUNDER MTN - Could go either way...
IASW - I liked the ride better in WDW, queue better in DL. I have mixed feelings about the addition of characters in this ride. Some were done well (Alladin, Lilo & Stitch, Ariel) some were bad (Pinocchio, Toy Story).
FINDING NEMO - Blows WDW out of the water (pun intended...)
INDIANA JONES - There needs to be one in WDW
MONSTERS INC - Kind of a waste of time. Laugh floor is better.
Tiki Room - With out a doubt better than WDW
BUZZ LIGHTYEAR - Close one, I'll give it to WDW.
SOARIN - Great at both parks
TOWER OF TERROR - I'll give ride and queue to WDW. The rides are totally different, DL does not move through the ride. You go up and then you think your car is going to move through the ride, nope - you heading back down. Unexpected and fun!
I could go on and on about the rides...

POTC - Queue is longer at WDW, that's for sure. I don't think there's a better entrance loading area to a ride than DL's POTC. Love the bayou!

SM - I still don't know why everyone rates DL's better. Yes, it's smoother, but the ride just makes right turns over and over. There's no drops.

BTMRR - I prefer WDW's. Not sure why, as it's the same thing in mirror.

Buzz - Sorry, but you have to give the edge to DL's. The guns have more movement! It's just easier and more fun. I have no idea why they changed it at WDW.

Soarin - Gopod fit in CA. Not at Epcot. DL's gets the edge in my book just for placement.

I think your wife summed it up the best. :animwink: I love both resorts too
 

Thrill

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No, it's not. WDW's is a joke in comparison.

That can be argued. WDW's has a better queue, actually has a postshow, and it's a far more thrilling ride. Disneyland has better effects. I can't speak for the offboard audio at WDW, but I would assume that Disneyland's onboard edges it out due to the quality of the sound.
 

David S.

Member
It's all about drops and airtime for me, so I prefer WDW's Space Mountain!

I do prefer DL over MK though, as Fantasyland is my favorite section and DL's has SIX attractions missing in ours:

Matterhorn
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Alice In Wonderland
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
Casey Junior Circus Train
Storybook Land Canal Boats

DL also has the following attractions missing from MK and all of WDW:

Roger Rabbit Car Toon Spin
Chip and Dale's Treehouse
Submarine Voyage
Indiana Jones Adventure
Main Street Cinema
Penny Arcade
Canoes
Columbia Sailing Ship
ORIGINAL Tiki Room
Railroad Dioramas (although the dinosaur one is similar to Universe of Energy)
Mickey's House (soon leaving WDW)
Minnie's House (soon leaving WDW)
Donald's Boat (soon leaving WDW)

By contrast, MK only has the following attractions missing from DLR:

Country Bear Jamboree
Mickey's Philharmagic
Carousel of Progress
Stitch
Magic Carpets
Peoplemover (rumored to be eventually returning to DL in some capacity, and the track is still there)
 

the-reason14

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No, it's not. WDW's is a joke in comparison.



Disagree. I hate WDW's IASW, and begrudgingly rode the one at DLR. I loved the one at DLR. I still can't stand to ride through WDW's. Though I do like how the flume is imbedded at WDW.



Agree as well. the ride is far superior, but the queue doesn't have anything to offer.



Was closed the week I was there.



I don't care for fireworks shows or parades, I find them boring and pointless. For me, Disneyland was a much more enjoyable experience. WDW seemed cold and impersonal, whereas Disneyland looked like a lot of love was put into it.

No I think you're mistaken. The one in DL is an overhyped special effects show. WDW's fits the term roller coaster better and is a better roller coaster altogether. Most of the ride in DL is spent going up while looking at fancy lights. *yawn*
 

imagineer boy

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SM - I still don't know why everyone rates DL's better. Yes, it's smoother, but the ride just makes right turns over and over. There's no drops.

DL's does actually have one drop.

Sure its a bunch of right turns, but the overall smoothness, spinning tunnel, SFX, and music makes it better that WDW. Now if WDW had gotten the full refurb with new track and everything, it would unquestionably chew up and spit out DL's version. But alas, no. :(
 

David S.

Member
DL's does actually have one drop.

Sure its a bunch of right turns, but the overall smoothness, spinning tunnel, SFX, and music makes it better that WDW.

I guess that might be true if you don't like kick-butt ejector airtime located at SEVERAL places throughout the ride. But I love it, so I have to put MKs ahead, on the strength of it's superior thrills! ;) And "smoothness" won't win any points from me, either, as I prefer my coasters on the ROUGH and aggressive side - hence my preference for woodies! And my love of the WDW Space Mountain as my favorite steelie in Florida!
 

the-reason14

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SM - I still don't know why everyone rates DL's better. Yes, it's smoother, but the ride just makes right turns over and over. There's no drops.


I agree. It's a good ride, but it fails as a roller coaster. I didn't see what all the fuss was about after I got off it for the first time. After hearing about how much better it was than the one in WDW, I was let down.
 

Mickey_777

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It's all about drops and airtime for me, so I prefer WDW's Space Mountain!

I do prefer DL over MK though, as Fantasyland is my favorite section and DL's has SIX attractions missing in ours:

Matterhorn MEH...respect the history but that's about it
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Alice In Wonderland
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride MEH...biggest let down at DL for me
Casey Junior Circus Train Boring...
Storybook Land Canal Boats Boring...

DL also has the following attractions missing from MK and all of WDW:

Roger Rabbit Car Toon Spin
Chip and Dale's Treehouse
Submarine Voyage We have an arguably better Nemo ride
Indiana Jones Adventure
Main Street Cinema
Penny Arcade
Canoes
Columbia Sailing Ship
ORIGINAL Tiki Room We have this...not as good but we have it
Railroad Dioramas (although the dinosaur one is similar to Universe of Energy)
Mickey's House (soon leaving WDW)
Minnie's House (soon leaving WDW)
Donald's Boat (soon leaving WDW)

By contrast, MK only has the following attractions missing from DLR:

Country Bear Jamboree BIG PLUS IMO
Mickey's Philharmagic HUGE PLUS IMO
Carousel of Progress ANOTHER BIG PLUS
Stitch
Magic Carpets
Peoplemover BIG PLUS (rumored to be eventually returning to DL in some capacity, and the track is still there)


See above :wave:
 

Korfar

Active Member
No mention of the differences between the Haunted Mansions? I haven't been to DL yet so I like reading about the differences. We will get there some day. I want to see the attractions that aren't at WDW as well. Something truly different.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
No mention of the differences between the Haunted Mansions? I haven't been to DL yet so I like reading about the differences. We will get there some day. I want to see the attractions that aren't at WDW as well. Something truly different.


i've only ridden Disneyland's Haunted mansion during the Haunted Mansion Holiday...but boy was that a Hoot! I think we rode it 4 or 5 times in 2 days!
 

David S.

Member
See above :wave:

(MK attractions missing in DL)

Country Bear Jamboree BIG PLUS IMO
Mickey's Philharmagic HUGE PLUS IMO
Carousel of Progress ANOTHER BIG PLUS
Stitch
Magic Carpets
Peoplemover BIG PLUS (rumored to be eventually returning to DL in some capacity, and the track is still there)

I agree with you on these. CBJ is my 3rd fave in the MK and Philharmagic is 5th! CoP is in my Top 20 and one of my favorites that isn't located in Fantasyland or a part of the "mountain range". Same for Peoplemover! To me, missing these attractions is the biggest "flaw" of Disneyland.

Here's where I disagree, based on my taste:

(DL attractions missing in MK Fantasyland)

Matterhorn MEH...respect the history but that's about it
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Alice In Wonderland
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride MEH...biggest let down at DL for me
Casey Junior Circus Train Boring...
Storybook Land Canal Boats Boring...

In YOUR opinion. But these are ALL essentials and crucial Classics for my taste!

Matterhorn is my FAVORITE of DL's mountain range coasters! I LOVE coasters with low, inline, front to back seating (like our Space)! I love the layout, I love the alledged "roughness", and perhaps most importantly, I love the Swiss/Germanic/Alpine theming and MUSIC! Which is also why I'm a HUGE fan of Pinocchio Village Haus and it's music loop, the Epcot Germany pavillion and it's music loop, Blizzard Beach and the "winter" tracks on its music loop, and the Rhinefeld section and music loop at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

Looking at a list I've compiled of my Disneyland favorites, Pinocchio's Daring Journey is my 5th favorite attraction in the park in my aesthetics category (I rank thrills/coasters seperately), Alice In Wonderland 9th, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride 12th, Casey Junior Circus Train 13th, and Storybook Land Canal Boats 14th. And these rankings are slightly lower than they would be if they just included current attractions, because my rankings include defunct attractions like Country Bear Jamboree and America Sings!

I found Casey Junior and Storybook Land utterly CHARMING! Being able to hear the cute and catchy "Casey Junior" theme song while riding the lovable little train from Dumbo around the ultra-charming Storybook Land is a nice treat for me! And my favorite "film franchise" of all time is the Disney Animated Classics series, so riding the Storybook Land Canal Boats while cruising past the quaint, charming, storybook miniatures of houses and other locations from these beloved stories is also a very special treat in my world! You may find them boring, but I prefer them over Pirates and Mansion! :)

So, if the MK had the "Missing Six" from the DL Fantasyland, they would all be in my MK Top 15!

DL also has the following attractions missing from MK and all of WDW:

Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin
Chip and Dale's Treehouse
Submarine Voyage We have an arguably better Nemo ride
Indiana Jones Adventure
Main Street Cinema
Penny Arcade
Canoes
Columbia Sailing Ship
ORIGINAL Tiki Room We have this...not as good but we have it
Railroad Dioramas (although the dinosaur one is similar to Universe of Energy)
Mickey's House (soon leaving WDW)
Minnie's House (soon leaving WDW)
Donald's Boat (soon leaving WDW)

You have a good point about the Nemo sub ride, storywise. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Nemo ride at Epcot, (it's my co-fave in the park, slightly edged out by Figgy), and from the video I've seen of the DL version, it seems to be missing the wonderful and catchy "Big Blue World" song. Still, a lot of the charming moments from the Epcot ride seem to be retained in the DL version, and there is something to be said for the awesomeness of being able to ride in a Submarine. Nemo or no Nemo, my point was DL is still running their classic Sub ride, and ours is sadly in Yesterworld :(

(Here's a link to my Disneyland faves rankings. Note the LOVE for Fantasyland, Critter Country, and Toontown! My MK rankings are extremely similar, minus the attractions we are missing, of course!):

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=518215&highlight=#518215
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
No mention of the differences between the Haunted Mansions? I haven't been to DL yet so I like reading about the differences. We will get there some day. I want to see the attractions that aren't at WDW as well. Something truly different.

The differences are small. At DL, the "moving" busts and hall of portraits is part of the queue. They made that part of the ride at WDW since they didn't need that long hallway (DL needs it to get you under the berm to the show building that houses the ride). Madam Leota doesn't float at DL, but I think the attic is a little more detailed. The bride tells you to "hurry back" on the moving walkway out of the attraction. And there is no staircase room (with the zig-zagging staircases).
 

mcjaco

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DL's does actually have one drop.

Sure its a bunch of right turns, but the overall smoothness, spinning tunnel, SFX, and music makes it better that WDW. Now if WDW had gotten the full refurb with new track and everything, it would unquestionably chew up and spit out DL's version. But alas, no. :(

A minimal drop at that. :(

Honestly, if you're going to rely on gimmicks, sound, and flashing lights to rate a coaster better....well, then it's not worth the argument. I'll take Matterhorn over DL's SM anyday.

I agree. It's a good ride, but it fails as a roller coaster. I didn't see what all the fuss was about after I got off it for the first time. After hearing about how much better it was than the one in WDW, I was let down.

I enjoyed it, but yeah it really didn't do much for me. Drops and random turns IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, make WDW's better in my opinion.

Like I said, I enjoy both parks (I actually really like California Adventure as it was), for what they are. DL's Fantasyland rates higher, but WDW's Tomorrowland, I feel is far superior.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
The differences are small. At DL, the "moving" busts and hall of portraits is part of the queue. They made that part of the ride at WDW since they didn't need that long hallway (DL needs it to get you under the berm to the show building that houses the ride). Madam Leota doesn't float at DL, but I think the attic is a little more detailed. The bride tells you to "hurry back" on the moving walkway out of the attraction. And there is no staircase room (with the zig-zagging staircases).

Actually, Madame Leota does float in the DL version. She doesn't float during the Nightmare overlay though.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
I think it's interesting how many people cite the physical motion of the Space Mountain coasters as the decisive factor between them.

To me, Disneyland's was far more enjoyable because the theming seemed so much more complete than at WDW's (better soundtrack, "spacey" bric-a-brac seemed more thoroughly integrated during ride, tracks seemed less visible than at WDW).

Neither one of them are a top-flight coaster experience in their own right (as is the case with just about any Disney thrill ride), so the differences in theming — or my perception of them, anyway — is what affects my ranking.

To be honest, all the talk about airtime and turns — with no mention of which one actually seems like a better representation of a trip through outer space — seems a bit strange on a Disney fan board. If it's pure coaster experience you want, Space Mountain on any coast isn't your best bet.
 

David S.

Member
I think it's interesting how many people cite the physical motion of the Space Mountain coasters as the decisive factor between them.

To me, Disneyland's was far more enjoyable because the theming seemed so much more complete than at WDW's (better soundtrack, "spacey" bric-a-brac seemed more thoroughly integrated during ride, tracks seemed less visible than at WDW).

Neither one of them are a top-flight coaster experience in their own right (as is the case with just about any Disney thrill ride), so the differences in theming — or my perception of them, anyway — is what affects my ranking.

To be honest, all the talk about airtime and turns — with no mention of which one actually seems like a better representation of a trip through outer space — seems a bit strange on a Disney fan board. If it's pure coaster experience you want, Space Mountain on any coast isn't your best bet.

Respectfully disagree, especially with the bolded parts! :) It is a Disney message board, but many of us are coaster enthusiasts, as well! And WDW's Space Mountain holds up VERY well in the thrills department, for my taste. It is in my Top 20 steel coasters in the country, (out of the 208 steel coasters I've ridden) behind only drop/camelback/lap bar/inversion-free hypercoasters (which are AWOL in Florida)

It's also my favorite steel coaster in Florida, ahead of all the tedious (for my taste) positive-g, shoulder-harness multiloopers (cough, Kumba, Hulk, Montu, Kraken, Manta, etc), and even ahead of Sheikra! Sheikra has some nice floater air on the drops, but since it holds you up there for awhile before the drop, it lacks the element of surprise, a nice long runtime, and the gradual buildup of both speed and intensity found in the MK Space Mountain.

Airtime and pacing are my favorite qualities in a coaster experience, and the MK Space comes up aces in these categories. In the back seat you are cruising along, then there's a turn, a sudden straight drop, and BAM! Ejector air PARADISE, and an INCREASE in speed! And it does this three more times in rapid-fire succession on those great, straight drops, with the last one being the biggest! Space Mountain in MK is a PERFECT example of the fact that a coaster need not be the "tallest", "fastest", etc. to deliver the goods BIG TIME in the thrills category!

Of course, if you "staple" yourself too tightly with the lap bar, you will not feel this air to the fullest (or at all!) ;) I am an airtime junkie when it comes to coasters; other's mileage may vary.

As far as the theming, DL's may be a little better but WDW's is no slouch, either! It works for me! And I love the WDW postshow, the star-tunnel entrance music, etc. It's not like our theming is garbage! But as a coaster enthusiast, the actual coaster elements (ie thrills), are the most important thing I evaluate in a coaster. That's why I rank Disney attractions in two different categories (thrills and aesthetics).

PS. The lack of the highly-touted onboard audio has never bothered me in the slightest. I am so focused on being in a zen-like state "feeling" the layout and focusing on the physical part of the ride, that I scarcely even notice it on Rock and Roller Coaster. In fact, I remember someone once asking me what song I had after just getting off of RnRC, and I honestly couldn't remember! :)
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
As far as the theming, DL's may be a little better but WDW's is no slouch, either! It works for me! And I love the WDW postshow, the star-tunnel entrance music, etc. It's not like our theming is garbage! But as a coaster enthusiast, the actual coaster elements (ie thrills), are the most important thing I evaluate in a coaster. That's why I rank Disney attractions in two different categories (thrills and aesthetics).

Can't argue with this part. I love the star tunnel especially. If I could mix WDW's Space Mt. queue with DL's ride, I think it would be the perfect mix. Definitely didn't want to imply WDW's ride was garbage in that category. :)
 

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