Disney's Streaming Services: Disney+ (and Hulu, ESPN+, Star, & hotstar)

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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I'm a Little concerned by the initial content from the library going to the vault. I saw 20,000 leagues on the wall, so I hope that confirms that Disney will be pushing to get the old live action movies on the service.

There is also Mary Poppins, Treasure Island, The Parent Trap (both versions), and Old Yeller representing the old live action movies.

For me it's all about the back catalog that appeals to me initially but I'm happy to wait if it means they are all updated to 4K.

I'm pretty sure not all movies will be updated to 4K. It's not an inexpensive process and I doubt they'll make an effort to do so with a lot of the schlocky kids movies and series they made.


I assume Fox will also get their own section on Disney+ or are the Simpsons going under the Disney tab?
They showed the interface, there was no Fox section. So, I assume it will be under Disney. But... they could change it.


Maybe I missed it, when does Disney+ launch?

Nov 12, 2019
 
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Indy_UK

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There as also Mary Poppins, Treasure Island, The Parent Trap (both versions), and Old Yeller representing the old live action movies.

Yeah hopefully it's a sign of what's to come. I'm sure as more and more is added over time, there will be more demand for those movies that aren't on the service.

I wanted to thank you too for all the effort you've put into this and the other threads about this event. It's been great and very helpful.
 

brb1006

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Disney Irish

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note that "LucasFilm" is not being promoted as a brand, but, instead, "Star Wars" is used... wonder how that will affect the Indiana Jones franchise resurrection?
Paramount still owns the distribution rights to the older Indy films, its only future films that Disney has the rights to. So once that gets released and available for streaming I assume they'll add a Indy section (2021?).
 

MisterPenguin

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I updated the first post we everything we know...

 

Tanna Eros

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I have not. I just want a service where i can sit down with my family and watch the old cartoons without needing to search and download on my own. Id gladly hand Disney my money for that.
Yes! On my streaming, I can just click on Disney cartoons and it will just play on through the list. I hate the hunt and peck of YouTube, the commercials blowing LOUD! and in the wrong places, sometimes bad quality, all smooshed or in a window within a window.
One pays for convenience sometimes, and this convenience I will gladly pay for.
 

AnotherDayAnotherDollar

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Disney+

Preview page:
https://preview.disneyplus.com/


Pricing
  • $7/mo ad free ($70 for the year, which is $5.83/mo)
  • will be "likely bundled" with a price discount with Hulu and/or ESPN+, but no pricing announced yet (contracts with Hulu's partners needs to be ironed out)

Service
  • It's been announced in the 4th Q 2018 conference call that the new OTT (over the top) streaming service is going to be called: Disney+
    • which should be no surprise since Disney throws the plus sign on many things internet and hi-tech connectedness (FastPass+) much like Apple uses the 'i-' prefix.
  • Disney bought a controlling interest in Bamtech to provide the technological capability to stream over the top (OTT)
    • Bamtech renamed to Disney Streaming Services
    • 60 fps at HD for ESPN+, and will be same for D+
  • Begins Nov 12, 20119 in North America (and Western Europe and Asia). Latin America and Eastern Europe a year later.
  • 4K HDR when available for content with that resolution
  • all content downloadable as long as you have a subscription
  • separate interfaces for TV, tablet, and mobile
  • the app is ready to go on Roku and PS4… will be on more
  • after a Disney movie's theatrical release, the same windows of releases (PPV, planes, cable, TV, DVDs) will occur before coming to streamers -- those windows make Disney money
Content Sources
  • basically, any family-friendly content produced by any of the film or TV studios owned by Disney
    • Fox's general audience (i.e., not family friendly content) goes to Hulu
  • note that "LucasFilm" is not being promoted as a brand, but, instead, "Star Wars" is used... wonder how that will affect the Indiana Jones franchise resurrection?
  • Disney is touting big name actors, directors, and producers who will make Original Content for Hulu and D+. They seem to want to get the point that this is not just “TV” which is normally seen as an inferior medium to cinema. (But, that stereotype has already been broken by award winning series and movies made for HBO, Netflix, and Amazon Prime.)
  • It will take about four years for all of Disney and Fox licenses with other parties to expire and come home to roost on D+/Hulu. In the meantime, Disney has been buying out some licenses (probably the ones that had no expiration or automatic renewals).
  • Disney Animation, Disney Studios, Disney Channels, Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars (LucasFilm)
  • Fox’s family-friendly content will be on D+
    • all Simpsons episodes
    • Malcolm in the Middle
    • Sound of Music / Hello Dolly
    • new Fox content
      • because of an existing contract with HBO, new family-friendly Fox fare goes through HBO first until 2022
  • Pixar:
    • 18 films immediately available, two will have their license with a third party expire later in the year (Coco leaves Netflix 11/29/2019 and Incredibles 2 leaves Netflix 07/20/2020), and the new one (TS4) will go to D++
    • all the Pixar shorts
    • new Pixar content for D+
      • Forky Asks a Question (ten shorts) - available at launch
      • Bo Peep short, Lamp Life
      • Monsters, Inc series: Monsters at Work
      • documentaries on Pixar
      • SparkShorts - available at launch
  • Marvel
    • on day one: Captain Marvel; Endgame; Iron Man 1; Iron Man 3; Thor 2
    • in year one: Iron Man 2; Captain America Winter Soldier; Guardians 1; Thor 3; Ant-Man & the Wasp; Black Panther; Avengers Infinity War
    • the rest of the MCU movies will have to wait until 3rd party licenses expire
    • no mention of the Netflix Marvel series (the Defenders) made at the Investors Meeting; may take a year or two for the Defenders' licensing contract to expire
    • New MCU series (all canon and related to Phase 4)
      • Wandavision (Wanda and the Vision)
      • Falcon and Winter Soldier
      • MCU animated "What If" ... Peggy Carter became the super soldier, and if Steve Rogers became Iron Man
      • Loki
      • recently announced Hawkeye series
      • Marvel 616 (unscripted)
      • Marvel's Hero Project (unscripted) - available at launch
  • Star Wars
    • in year 1, 8 films to start with, then 2 more in the first year when their 3rd party license expires (TLJ leaves Netflix 01/26/2020
      Solo leaves Netflix 07/9/2020), then the new Episode 9 [IOW, all of the films available in year one]
    • new Star Wars content for D+ (all canon)
      • The Mandalorian - available at launch
      • spy show based on Cassian Andor (Rogue One prequel)
      • last season of Clone Wars animated series
      • documentaries on SW
  • Disney Studios
    • many of the Disney live movies will be available, but no mention of how much if even all of them
      • Some shown available at Investors' Meeting: Mary Poppins, Treasure Island, 20,000 Leagues, Bednobs and Broomsticks; Parent Trap
    • new Live Action shows produced by Disney Studios for D+
      • Noelle (Santa's daughter saves Christmas!)
      • Timmy Failure (based on book)
      • Stargirl
      • Togo (true life Alaskan story)
      • Lady and the Tramp - available at launch
      • Magic Camp
      • The Imagineering Story - available at launch
      • Encore! - available at launch
  • Disney Animation
    • all the Disney movies (with a few notorious exceptions) are expected to be on D+, even the ones normally in "the vault"
    • no mention of all the old Mickey animated shorts, but, one would expect them to be there, especially since they've been in heavy rotation on the Disney channels, which are giving their library to D+
  • Disney Channel
    • current content
    • Massive library will be made available from day 1
    • 5,000 episodes of Disney Channel and Disney Jr.
    • 100 original movies "D-coms."
    • new content made for D+
      • Phineas & Ferb movie
      • High School Musical the Musical the Series (a musical within a musical within a musical) available at launch
  • NatGeo
    • “the best of our programming will be available on day one” – umm… so not all then?
    • new NatGeo shows made for D+
      • The World According to Jeff Goldblum - available at launch
      • "Magic of the Animal Kingdom" on care for animals and preservation at Epcot's Seabase and DAK
  • DisneyNature
    • nothing has been said or revealed about specific DisneyNature films and where they would wind up on the service, but, it's presumed they'll be there
The other streamers
  • ESPN+
    • $5/mo ($50 for the year, which is $4.15/mo)
    • has limited ads during sporting breaks
    • upcharge pay per views
    • will expand into Latin America
  • Hulu
    • Disney now owns 60%
    • Pricing
      • $6/mo with ads
      • $12/mo ad free
      • $45/mo for live TV (Digital Multichannel Video Programming Distributor, DMVPD)
    • will expand into Europe and worldwide
  • hotstar
    • serves India in 8 Indian languages
    • has one quarter of TV/video market
    • 250 days of live sports (cricket being the top draw)
    • 300M active users
    • available in India, US, & Canada
    • free service with ads or premium subscription


Couple of things.

  1. Endgame is not day 1, but it is year 1. My personal guess is it'll come around Xmas like IW showed up on Netflix around Christmas.
  2. If you want to list when certain Marvel movies expire from Netflix (unless I did my math wrong): GoTG2 = 06/05/2019, Thor Ragnarok = 01/06/2020, Black Panther = 03/04/2020, IW = 06/05/2020, Ant Man and The Wasp = 07/29/2020
  3. The only guaranteed Nov 12, 2019 launch is NA. Western Europe and Asia is Q1 2020, so technically anytime between Oct 1 and Dec 31st 2019. My personal guess is that it'll launch in a couple of small markets before the US release for stress testing in a prod environment.

I'm also curious to where some of the Fox stuff will go. Old X-Men and FF movies. Home Alone. Simpsons. Are they gonna put them under Disney or a new tab for Fox? My guess is the latter for some stuff (i.e. Home Alone) and Marvel under Marvel banner, but separated from the MCU, but who knows? Also, as you mentioned, Indiana Jones. Even if they don't acquire the distribution rights to the first 4 movies, where will Indy 5 go under? Well the service will certainly be expanding, both in content and presentation.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Couple of things.

  1. Endgame is not day 1, but it is year 1. My personal guess is it'll come around Xmas like IW showed up on Netflix around Christmas.
  2. If you want to list when certain Marvel movies expire from Netflix (unless I did my math wrong): GoTG2 = 06/05/2019, Thor Ragnarok = 01/06/2020, Black Panther = 03/04/2020, IW = 06/05/2020, Ant Man and The Wasp = 07/29/2020
  3. The only guaranteed Nov 12, 2019 launch is NA. Western Europe and Asia is Q1 2020, so technically anytime between Oct 1 and Dec 31st 2019. My personal guess is that it'll launch in a couple of small markets before the US release for stress testing in a prod environment.
I'm also curious to where some of the Fox stuff will go. Old X-Men and FF movies. Home Alone. Simpsons. Are they gonna put them under Disney or a new tab for Fox? My guess is the latter for some stuff (i.e. Home Alone) and Marvel under Marvel banner, but separated from the MCU, but who knows? Also, as you mentioned, Indiana Jones. Even if they don't acquire the distribution rights to the first 4 movies, where will Indy 5 go under? Well the service will certainly be expanding, both in content and presentation.

Thanks! I'll update the OP.
 

AnotherDayAnotherDollar

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Did you mean 2021? Guardians 2 wasn't listed as a first year D+ release.

I meant 2019. GoTG2 showed up on Netflix 12/5/2017 and the expiration date is 18 months after that. Civil War, Avengers, and AoU are also not year 1 movies for instance, so there's something with Marvel movies besides just the Netflix deal.

Also, I don't know if the other movies promised for year one (i.e. Black Panther, Solo, Incredibles 2) can show up the day they expire from Netflix or if there must be a freeze period. My guess is the former, but can't know for sure without seeing the contract.
 

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