Disney's FY20 Q3 Earnings (8/4/20)

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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I think you already have to be a NZ citizen, permanent resident, or visa holder don't you?

I guess the person in question could be a Kiwi or maybe the NZ government will grant special permission on the basis of wanting to see Mulan on the big screen.

There's a healthy tourism industry from the US to NZ. You have to apply for a Visa online which is granted pro forma.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Not bad if you are a family of 4 or more watching.
It costs us (on average) $75 to go to the movies as a family of 4 in Massachusetts. We save the theater for the big ones like TS4, Big Hero 6, Star Wars, etc. If they think they're getting $30 for Mulan out of us on top of our subscription, they're nuts.

ETA: We pay $25 for Blu Ray/DVD/Digital combo. We're not about to pay $30 for a movie we won't even own afterwards.
 

esskay

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100 million paid subscriptions... that's the bright spot here (for shareholders).

Not for me. Disney+ has been heavily discounted here in the UK and I'm sure in other places too. Between the 1 year discount deal for the first year, the free bundle as part of mobile contracts and heavy discount codes in newspapers I doubt there even averaging £50/year per customer here.

After the 1 year payments end most people wont renew as theres not enough new content there to make it worthwhile right now.
 

Sir_Cliff

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There's a healthy tourism industry from the US to NZ. You have to apply for a Visa online which is granted pro forma.
Not right now, though. I think both New Zealand and Australia have effectively shut their borders due to Covid:

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/covid-19/coronavirus-update-inz-response
"New Zealand’s border is still closed to everyone but New Zealand citizens and residents. There are some exceptions but the criteria for granting an exception are very strict. This is to help stop the spread of COVID-19 and protect the health of people already in New Zealand.

Visa processing for overseas applicants is still on hold. This is because people who are not New Zealand citizens or residents are unlikely to meet the current entry requirements. Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is not able to legally grant a visa to people who are unlikely to meet the entry requirements."

So, no Mulan :(
 

Chef Mickey

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Well, that’s vindication for me.

This was supposed to be the worst quarter ever and considering everything, they held up well.

Better days ahead.

For those confused about stock rallying...the dumpster fire of this quarter was already baked in the stock. The rally is because investors thought it would be worse than it ended up being.
 
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hopemax

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So, no big deal, nothin to see here, TRON is still coming next year? Time to close up shop here and return to discussion of mask effectiveness.
Which is an actual point. WDW's attendance and bookings were definitely negatively affected by virus resurgence. So if you want Disney (and many other businesses) to recover, we can't treat COVID as no big deal. Wear your mask, be smart about what you do. Chapek clearly doesn't expect WDW business to stabilize until travel stabilizes. Neither should we. Interesting chicken and egg to watch, since airlines don't expect their business to stabilize until people have a reason to travel, like WDW. So airlines are looking at WDW. WDW is looking at airlines. Virus control has to come first, for people to board the plane. That thing we are unwilling to prioritize because reasons.
 

jt04

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I know putting attraction development on slow is not good news for a lot of people internally. But the silver lining is technology is advancing so quickly it will make it better in the long run. To a quick recovery though.

And hopefully everything underway and announced proceeds per usual. The MK needs Tron sooner than later. IMO.
 

ParentsOf4

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I really need some education here. According to Marketwatch, "Walt Disney Co. reported a quarterly loss of nearly $5 billion Tuesday". "The loss was largely due to a $4.95 billion charge Disney took" "After adjusting for that charge and other factors, Disney reported net income of 8 cents a share, compared with $1.34 a share a year ago."

So Disney actually lost money for the quarter??? Sounds like accounting tricks making it seem better.
Quoting from the press release:

"Diluted earnings per share (EPS) from continuing operations for the quarter was a loss of $2.61 compared to income of $0.79 in the prior-year quarter. Excluding certain items affecting comparability(1), diluted EPS for the quarter decreased 94% to $0.08 from $1.34 in the prior-year quarter."​

Yes, Disney lost money but, as stated in footnote (1):

"EPS excluding certain items affecting comparability, total segment operating income and free cash flow are non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP measures are diluted EPS from continuing operations, income from continuing operations before income taxes, and cash provided by continuing operations, respectively. See the discussion on page 2 and on pages 10 through 13."​

Page 12 of the press release explains these. The single biggest item is "Restructuring and impairment charges". This is explained to be:

"Charges in the current quarter were due to goodwill and intangible asset impairments ($4,953 million) and severance and contract termination costs related to the acquisition and integration of TFCF ($94 million)."​

Now, $5 Billion is a lot of goodwill and impairment. ;)

What are these goodwill and intangible asset impairments?

"During the current and prior-year quarters, the Company recorded charges totaling $5,047 million and $207 million, respectively. The current quarter charges included $4,953 million of impairments of goodwill and intangible assets at our International Channels business and $94 million of restructuring costs. The impairment of goodwill and intangible assets reflected the impacts of COVID-19 and of the ongoing shift of film and television distribution from licensing of linear channels to a direct-to-consumer business model on the International Channel businesses. Restructuring costs were primarily for severance and contract termination charges in connection with the integration of TFCF. The charge in the prior-year quarter was primarily for severance costs in connection with the integration of TFCF and accelerated equity based compensation for TFCF awards that vested upon closing of the acquisition. These charges are recorded in “Restructuring and impairment charges” in the Condensed Consolidated Statement of Income."​

Disney closed down a lot of channels in its Asia-Pacific market, and wrote these off as a total loss.

The takeaway, however, is that Disney's operations made a small profit.
 

easyrowrdw

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All the doom and gloom insiders of late really not looking good right now. Disney is not on the verge of bankruptcy, they're not going to seriously entertain selling off the China parks to stay above water, this company is fine and all the insiders are vastly exaggerating things as evidenced by todays earnings.

I feel like that happened on the previous call too. There were lots of "insider predictions" that never came to fruition.

It's also interesting how often the unrealized predictions are negative. It's almost like people are using these avenues to voice their personal displeasure rather than provide actual insight into the happenings of the company.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Doesnt really matter, he's right. Remember that many of the locals are making them next to nothing if they enter on an AP right now so its a very valid point.

Yep. I think we will see a complete review of APs through all this. Hoping they keep them and am working on ideas in the Imagineering section. APs can be a big Win-Win at WDW but the program needs adjusting. IMO.
 

the.dreamfinder

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$15 seems more reasonable IMHO.
If this was being sold on iTunes, $30 seems appropriate. But it’s not. It’s 100% Disney profit. No middleman. And I pay to use the delivery mechanism, which uses MY bandwidth to do so.

$29 is absurd.
2019 US average ticket price was $9.11. Times four that is $36.44. One month of D+ if you’re only subscribing for the month is $7 USD. This costs the same as a matinee and Disney keeps around 95-97% of the take. Even better deal if you have a 4K HDR TV at home since D+ streams in that format and TWDS started moving their new releases to that format.

We don’t know the conditions of the transaction, but that’s a steal.
 

Chef Mickey

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Drunken child at work again. Company shows huge losses in parks with no control over fixing the root cause. Stock goes up 5% after hours. :hilarious:
First of all, you have no understanding of markets if you don’t understand the move after a “less bad” than expected quarter. Could have been uglier.

Second, you’re just wrong in your assessment of fixing the current issues. Parks are open...that is a huge win already and Disney has done plenty to operate safely and manage the situatio.

Third, Disney can only manage the situation. No one can “root cause“ this issue except the drug companies and maybe not even them. It’s certainly not Disney.

Lastly, given the circumstances, a profitable quarter is incredibly positive.
 
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KikoKea

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Quoting from the press release:

"Diluted earnings per share (EPS) from continuing operations for the quarter was a loss of $2.61 compared to income of $0.79 in the prior-year quarter. Excluding certain items affecting comparability(1), diluted EPS for the quarter decreased 94% to $0.08 from $1.34 in the prior-year quarter."​

Yes, Disney lost money but, as stated in footnote (1):

"EPS excluding certain items affecting comparability, total segment operating income and free cash flow are non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP measures are diluted EPS from continuing operations, income from continuing operations before income taxes, and cash provided by continuing operations, respectively. See the discussion on page 2 and on pages 10 through 13."​

Page 12 of the press release explains these. The single biggest item is "Restructuring and impairment charges". This is explained to be:

"Charges in the current quarter were due to goodwill and intangible asset impairments ($4,953 million) and severance and contract termination costs related to the acquisition and integration of TFCF ($94 million)."​

Now, $5 Billion is a lot of goodwill and impairment. ;)

What are these goodwill and intangible asset impairments?

"During the current and prior-year quarters, the Company recorded charges totaling $5,047 million and $207 million, respectively. The current quarter charges included $4,953 million of impairments of goodwill and intangible assets at our International Channels business and $94 million of restructuring costs. The impairment of goodwill and intangible assets reflected the impacts of COVID-19 and of the ongoing shift of film and television distribution from licensing of linear channels to a direct-to-consumer business model on the International Channel businesses. Restructuring costs were primarily for severance and contract termination charges in connection with the integration of TFCF. The charge in the prior-year quarter was primarily for severance costs in connection with the integration of TFCF and accelerated equity based compensation for TFCF awards that vested upon closing of the acquisition. These charges are recorded in “Restructuring and impairment charges” in the Condensed Consolidated Statement of Income."​

Disney closed down a lot of channels in its Asia-Pacific market, and wrote these off as a total loss.

The takeaway, however, is that Disney's operations made a small profit.
Do I understand this correctly: the parks are making a profit, operating as they are with the crowds (or lack of) they are drawing?
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Chapek actually admitted that the problems for Disney are more than COVID in the conference call. That is more than Iger would have ever volunteered. It isn't Chapek's fault that investors didn't listen.
Post the quote from the call.

This is almost entirely virus related. Sure, there are always small issues, but Disney would have reported their usual solid quarter, with dominating parks results absent this virus.

I listened to the call and heard nothing major from Chapek.
 

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