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[Vegas Disney Fan]

We’ll see. One day when I’m wearing Depends I’ll know if I was right.

I desperately hope you’re right… but after the changes to Splash and the upcoming removal of the Rivers of America I fear Irish may be.

I don’t think anything is untouchable to Disney anymore.

I’m also afraid that even if they do keep them they’ll be “updated” so heavily over the upcoming years they won’t be recognizable to what we know them as today anyway.

 

[Phroobar]

Well, they did add all this stuff to Hong Kong's castle which originally looked like Disneyland's. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing to Disneyland's.

Disneyland's future?

 

[Touchdown]

I don’t think they will ever touch DL’s castle, too iconic and historic.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Well, they did add all this stuff to Hong Kong's castle which originally looked like Disneyland's. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing to Disneyland's.

Disneyland's future?

I wouldn’t be surprised either if they eventually do something similar in Anaheim, they could avoid a lot of disappointment from cancelling fireworks if they had a larger castle for projection shows.

When they originally announced this for Hong Kong I wasn’t a fan but the end result looks amazing.

 

[Phroobar]

It could be cool to have that area with a fountain show in front.
It think it is totally doable for ours if they removed the Snow White fountain and may intergrade the princess fairytail hall. The back courtyard goes away as does the walk thru.

 

[CaptinEO]

They've already destroyed Jim Henson's legacy. Now they are just finishing destroying George Lucas's and Walt Disney's legacy. At least Spielberg was smart enough to work with Universal who knows how to preserve such things.

I'm not sure about Universal being good. Not that I like what Disney has done with their properties either. The last Jurassic World movie was like an insult to the audience. One of the worst things I've ever seen. Same can be said for a lot of Star Wars and Marvel films too.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm not sure about Universal being good. Not that I like what Disney has done with their properties either. The last Jurassic World movie was like an insult to the audience. One of the worst things I've ever seen. Same can be said for a lot of Star Wars and Marvel films too.

That was Spielberg doing it to himself. It's his production company.

 

[Phroobar]

I don’t think they will ever touch DL’s castle, too iconic and historic.

So is the Rivers of America. Nothing is scared. The castle might be protected as historic landmark. If not, it should be.

 

[CaptinEO]

That was Spielberg doing it to himself. It's his production company.

The mighty have fallen.

 

[Phroobar]

The mighty have fallen.

Very true. There are some amazing new directors now to take his place.

 

[captveg]

Very true. There are some amazing new directors now to take his place.

The Fabelmans is excellent, and while I didn't like it as much as the 1961 film his West Side Story has some wonderful sequences and camera work.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

At least Spielberg was smart enough to work with Universal who knows how to preserve such things.

What exactly is preserved at Universal? Those parks have essentially abandoned their ride the movies/movie-making beginnings and few original attractions remain. ET Adventure at USF is essentially the only example, and it’s hanging by a thread.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I desperately hope you’re right… but after the changes to Splash and the upcoming removal of the Rivers of America I fear Irish may be.

I don’t think anything is untouchable to Disney anymore.

I’m also afraid that even if they do keep them they’ll be “updated” so heavily over the upcoming years they won’t be recognizable to what we know them as today anyway.

I think DL is the most untouchable park because it carries such weighty history, but in regards to what would truly be untouchable to Walt, I would guess it would be (1) having a castle in the middle of the park and (2) the Disneyland Railroad. I think everything else could be fair game at some late stage, maybe 75 years from now.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

I think DL is the most untouchable park because it carries such weighty history, but in regards to what would truly be untouchable to Walt, I would guess it would be (1) having a castle in the middle of the park and (2) the Disneyland Railroad. I think everything else could be fair game at some late stage, maybe 75 years from now.

I'll probably get cancelled over this, but the monorail needs to go. If they took it out they could really expand Tomorrowland far more than what they could now.

 

[Phroobar]

What exactly is preserved at Universal? Those parks have essentially abandoned their ride the movies/movie-making beginnings and few original attractions remain. ET Adventure at USF is essentially the only example, and it’s hanging by a thread.

Their marketing of their past. Universal Monsters are still a hot property among horror fans. HHN is fan festival. Movie studios always change to their current production in development.

 

[MistaDee]

Their marketing of their past. Universal Monsters are still a hot property among horror fans. HHN is fan festival. Movie studios always change to their current production in development.

I give Universal a ton of credit but I really don't think there's any basis to claim they preserve history more than Disney. Aside from ET Adventure they've bulldozed classic attractions like Jaws, Kongfrontation, Disaster, Twister, etc. far more readily than Disney.

As for what happens at Disney - speculating about the death of Pirates and Mansion seems kinda pointless no? I personally don't see them getting rid of original Walt E-tickets but we don't have any new information with which to inform our speculation.

Let's bring the speculation in this thread back to DisneylandForward eh? I'm trying to think of all the potential IP/concepts that have been represented in the concept art or rumored for consideration. Any I've missed?

Fantasy Springs:
- Frozen
- Neverland
- Tangled
Villain's Land
Avatar
Wakanda
Zootopia
Toy Story Land (please no)
Tropical Americas Encanto

 

[D.Silentu]

I'm most interested in the brand new things that Disneyland Forward could bring to the resort. The only thing that may end up challenging that mindset is Villain's Land.

 

[mickEblu]

I'm most interested in the brand new things that Disneyland Forward could bring to the resort. The only thing that may end up challenging that mindset is Villain's Land.

The other day I thought to myself - you re so caught up with what these new attractions might be and where they might go at DL Forward/ DLR but you have 4 “brand new” parks waiting for you in Florida. All ready to go. 7 (soon) if you count Universal.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I give Universal a ton of credit but I really don't think there's any basis to claim they preserve history more than Disney. Aside from ET Adventure they've bulldozed classic attractions like Jaws, Kongfrontation, Disaster, Twister, etc. far more readily than Disney

I was trying to think of “classic” Uni rides and I can’t think of anything that has the same nostalgia factor of Pirates, Mansion, Space, etc at Disney, I think the closest would have been Jaws and they already tore that out. My second thought was maybe Jurassic Park but they’ve already completely redone that to Jurassic World also, my third thought was Back to the Future and that’s been gone for ages already… I can’t think of anything old at Uni that would be untouchable. I think Potter is but that’s only 20 years old so not really comparable to a 60 year old Disney ride.

 

[MistaDee]

I'm most interested in the brand new things that Disneyland Forward could bring to the resort. The only thing that may end up challenging that mindset is Villain's Land.

Yeah I totally agree. Hopefully with a new take on Pandora in CA and a different style Cars experience in FL we won't see as much direct 1:1 cloning as more recent decades.

I do think looking at what they're developing elsewhere in parallel can help guide some expectation around ride systems, technology, concepts that may find themselves expressed in the DLForward space.