Curious Constance
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Heck, right now you can get your Mickey shaped pancakes and take them ON the Mark Twain and eat them at the tables they've added.
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Disneyland Trip Report
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Of course it is Endor. You're wringing your hands over where breakfast will be served in a theme park, not who will be the next Supreme Court justice.
The only reason why the restaurant exists in the first place is to satisfy hungry patrons who have come to Disneyland to ride rides. Secondly, it operates as a source of revenue for Disney, therefore the company gets to call the shots on how it chooses to maximize visitor spending, which is nothing new even at Disneyland.
Rich T
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Dr. Hans, Reinhardt, I gotta chime in on this. This is one instance where you don't really understand the importance of this change to thousands upon thousands of long time DL lovin' California families I've been going to DL all my life--over 50 years--with my family, and--like it's been for many, many Looong Time DL fans, the casual breakfast at River Belle has been one of the most wonderful, beautiful, relaxing experiences--shared by the whole family--on every single trip for decades. It's not a trivial matter for thousands and thousands of DL fans, but a HUGE part of a decades long tradition. We go to the park early, hit the big rides, then rest and plan over pancakes while the Mark Twain paddles by and adorable birds try to steal our food off our plates. For many of us, this is a core Disney experience as wonderful as PoC and Space Mtn. Now that experience is being removed by uncaring management in favor of more profits. It's not the end of the world, but it sucks.
Think of your most cherished non-ride family vacation memory--one you always assumed would be there. Then it's gone, all in the name of money. This one hurts.
George Lucas on a Bench
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It does suck.
Plus, it's annoying when people go onto a web forum dedicated to a certain topic and say that whatever it is we're discussing doesn't matter. Then why are you here?
Plus, it's annoying when people go onto a web forum dedicated to a certain topic and say that whatever it is we're discussing doesn't matter. Then why are you here?
Californian Elitist
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THANK YOU. You've become of my new favorite people here, seriously.
This post times one million. Some of us are very, VERY passionate about Disneyland, and other things. If someone enjoyed and was very passionate about trees, and the government decided to tear down a historical forest nearby and that someone became upset, I'm not going to tell them they're being over the top or call the situation trivial just because I myself don't really care. We all have our special interests and things we care deeply about. Some of us deeply care about Disneyland, its history, traditions, and even the little things, such as eating pancakes at River Belle.
My family has been visiting Disneyland for decades and decades as well, since the late 50's/early 60's. The place has become very special for us and we like eating pancakes at River Belle, darn it!
Rich T
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@Dr. Reinhardt: Now that I've vented (thank you), I just want to say this: Usually I don't care that much about restaurants. They come and go. I couldn't care less about the fate of Blue Bayou, Carthay Circle, Plaza Inn or Village Haus (I'm somewhat attached to Flo's, but the food there can improve a bit).
BUT....If DL's management really set out to destroy the ONE...the ONE dining experience at Disneyland that touched the hearts of the most families over the longest period of time...well, mission accomplished, guys and gals. Congrats.
BUT....If DL's management really set out to destroy the ONE...the ONE dining experience at Disneyland that touched the hearts of the most families over the longest period of time...well, mission accomplished, guys and gals. Congrats.
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Deleted member 107043
Welp, so much for the original poster's trip report. 
Curious Constance
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The dining area closest to the Stage Door Cafe is still open to everyone. You can get your pancakes and eat them there all you want.
Rich T
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Sorry 'bout that, but you hit a nerve by dismissing one of DL's most cherished traditions (for old farts like me). I didn't mean to rant, but that's DL; When you take away something that's been there for decades and effects multiple generations... it emotionally effects a lot of folks. That's another facet of the park that makes it so fascinating. So much of it is "adopted" into family traditions.Welp, so much for the original poster's trip report.
Rich T
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It's not about the pancakes (the Steamboat plate's eggs and sausage are just as important
), it's the whole family experience of gathering there in the morning. For, like, forty years. Last time we ate there we had four generations of my family sitting there around one table--all loving the place for the same reasons (okay, maybe the baby had no clue what was going on...)
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No offense, and you may not realize it, but you sound incredibly entitled.
Curious Constance
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I don't think anyone is saying you can't be disappointed when a change affects something you love about Disneyland. We all have things we love about it, that's for sure. I just can't wrap my head around how personally some take every, single change. As if you're surprised that an international conglomerate would make a decision in order to positively change sales. Disneyland is more than a business to us, sure, but that doesn't make it any less of one in reality. Changes happen, new people will create new traditions with those changes, and may be upset someday if things change again, but that's just the nature of things. One person's traditions are not worth more than mine or the next person's. And to pretend that only truly passionate fans would understand and be upset by something changing is ridiculous. I am passionate about Disneyland, I also have a good understanding of how things work in reality and realize not everything revolves around me and my particular likes and dislikes. If you say that makes me less passionate, then feel free to think so, but you'd be wrong.
Curious Constance
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My whole point was that you can still gather there in the morning.It's not about the pancakes (the Steamboat plate's eggs and sausage are just as important
Rich T
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No offense taken. (Entitled?!? I don't even know where the City Hall complaint desk is...though I'm guessing it's somewhere in, um, City Hall) I don't mean to come across like that; I'm just honestly expressing the emotions of a long time DL fan. The emotions are real, and that's a compliment to the park's effectiveness these past 60 years. This change isn't important to you. It IS important to a large number of longtime fans. Every change that happens is going to someone off. This change hit my family and many others, so it's our turn to feel the twinge.
Rich T
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Really, truly, I'm not *this* effected by other changes. This was THE one for me. I'm not saying you aren't as passionate about DL. No two people enjoy Disneyland for exactly the same reasons. I'm a West Coaster whose family's been meeting for breakfast at the River Belle once a year every summer for decades. My family isn't the only one who's done this. Things do change, and I don't expect the park to cater to my wants. Someday, a cherished decades-old tradition might disappear for *you* from Disneyland (though I hope not) and it'll be your turn to gripe about it. And other fans will wonder how you could be upset over such a seemingly small thing. And you'll be standing where I am saying, "What? No, I'm not saying you don't love DL, I'm just saying this hurts a bit!"
Curious Constance
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Again, I'm not saying I can't understand you being sad about something changing. I could name a million things I would be sad if they went away. To me here is the best way to describe the difference.
A natural, understandable reaction to hearing something is being removed from DL: " Im so sad its being removed, I'm really going to miss this and miss experiencing this with my family."
Entitled reaction: "What?! They are removing this!? How DARE they do this! This was a favorite part of the park for ME! Evil, corporate, greedy Disney! I won't stand for this!"
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you were acting like this, but in general, I definitely get this vibe from a lot of Disney fans.
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Deleted member 107043
For me it was the MSEP, which was the primary reason I couldn't wait to see Paint the Night as soon as it debuted last summer. I loved everything about the MSEP and seeing it every summer was as big of a deal to me as Christmas morning growing up. Despite my fondness and attachment to the parade when it left I knew it was time for it to go. Nothing at DL is sacred, and we can't insist on so many limitations and restrictions that the park can no longer evolve or innovate.
Phroobar
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I guess it is a good thing that I could care less if any dining locations are changed or removed. My son and I ate at the Riverbell Terrace the last day they had Mickey Pancakes. We waited in a very long line and most people in that line didn't even order the pancakes. There was a large pile of them sitting under a heat lamp. When we finally got to order, the staff was nice enough to make a fresh one for him. My son ended up eating about half of it before wanting to go on BTMRR. Was the experience worth it? No, however the food was good for cafeteria style food. I think we would be just as happy eating at the McDonalds on Ball for breakfast as eating there.
dweezil78
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Hey... I loved getting my pancakes too at River Belle. Grabbing a table overlooking the water while the weather is still cool and the crowds are low is one of those great DL things. I guess I just find it hard to get outraged over such a change when it takes place in Southern California where scenic breakfast spots are abundant.
Also there's the part where I can still walk 20 extra feet, buy my pancakes, and then go eat them at the same spot I always do. Really doesn't matter to me where the business transaction takes place as long as I'm eating them where I want.
Also there's the part where I can still walk 20 extra feet, buy my pancakes, and then go eat them at the same spot I always do. Really doesn't matter to me where the business transaction takes place as long as I'm eating them where I want.