TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Also 2 screening areas for guests arriving by boat from resorts.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Disneyland Resort - New Entry Gates Incoming?
- Thread starter Disney Analyst
- Start date
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
True, it’s not a perfect comparator. DLR has two parks and of course also more screening areas. More just that Evolv prevents them from drastically needing to expand their current footprint, which they had wanted to previously. Kind of the whole bugaboo with the Eastern gateway was about them needing to move the bubble.
The current zones are more than sufficient with the new tech. Which I assume is the compromise.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Are you talking about WDW or DL?
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Disneyland. They really felt they needed an expanded security plaza east of harbour in the old iteration. I actually think the current needs are sufficient if the actual process was significantly expedited - via Evolv scanners
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Well that would be a plaza that takes security from Harbor Boulevard and Toy Story Lots correct? They don’t really need to expand the current one.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The reason for moving security screening across Harbor as part of the Eastern Gateway project was for a couple reasons:
1. To increase the security bubble
2. To use the current security area and the current transportation hub on the Harbor side for expansion, particularly for DCA.
I believe one of the compromises was to have security be done right after the bridge ideally with new tech, but it was still going to be moved from its current location in order for the expansion to take place.
Disney Vault
Active Member
One thing I liked about including the bridge inside the security bubble is that it eliminated the crazy Jesus people currently outside the entrance yelling at everyone on the loudspeaker that they are going to hell. If this bridge gets build they will be on the bridge too
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Doubtful. The bridge will probably be Disney property and if not, it will most certainly get zoned against solicitors etc.
As a side note, I’m all for free speech, but it should not be legal for them to use amplification that is clearly heard on private property. I was halfway through the bus loop and could still hear that guy yelling at parents for taking their kids to disney.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The whole dispute over the bridge previously was no public access to it. The compromise that Disney made as part of DisneylandForward is to allow public access to the bridge. As for zoning against solicitors, dunno. But I'm sure some will try to push it.
Disney Vault
Active Member
I hope you are right
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Ah… interesting. I know Vegas just passed a law about the pedestrian bridges there but to me the big win was for Disney to handle all security on the other side of Harbor - that opens up way better crowd flow possibilities.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I agree it would have been better, and Disney agreed as that is why they wanted to do it in the first place. However a majority of the businesses on the Harbor side disagreed as they felt it would reduce their foot traffic because it would be routed to the transit hub, and that is what cause all the delays in getting approval previously.
There's free speech, and then there's just being annoying and obtuse. These religious extremists that like to scream at us on sidewalks with their graphic signs and loud amplification are so tiresome.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
The one(s) I’ve seen and heard at DL are particularly bad. I don’t believe that free speech should have the right to amplification but I didn’t write those laws.
Question for the lawyers, if someone says in a public setting you are an evil parent for taking your kid to Disneyland, can you sue them for slander?
Also…. I’ve got a funny idea, I should get a mic and preach my own message! “Don’t go to Disneyland unless you plan on riding the steam train! - Indiana jones is better than rise! - don’t you dare leave before watching the fireworks!” Haha
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
How do they know you're going on Mr. Toad?
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
Slander is a type of defamation that occurs when a false statement is made orally that causes reputational damage. Traditionally, this would include making a false statement in public places such as at a town meeting or work conference.
How is being told your going to hell for going to Disneyland damaging your reputation?
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
They are literally saying they are bad parents.
If they just wanted to speak against Disney as a business for whatever religious or political reason ok…. But don’t tell parents they are bad parents in front of their family, that is a line that should be illegal to cross in my mind.
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
I think you still need to prove a reputation in general has been damaged. Is their job lost or suffer financially because of it?
Being embarrassed in public by a crazy person is different.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
i guess it’s free speech but goodness it doesn’t seem right.
SSG
Well-Known Member
Well, you could. The case would likely get dismissed though. That comment would probably be considered a statement of opinion, not fact, so it's not actionable. Also, you wouldn't have any damages because of the comment. A court's not dealing every petty annoyance someone has.