Disneyland Resort - New Entry Gates Incoming?

[Disney Analyst]

Good, I like these.

On a side note, can they get rid of all the old manual turnstiles that still exists in many of the attractions queues too please. Like why do any of the FL attractions, or even JC, still have the old turnstiles in the queue at this point. I was happy when they removed them from HM, they need to remove them from all remaining attractions at this point.

They should. They can easily install a newer tech for counting guests.

 

[Disney Irish]

They should. They can easily install a newer tech for counting guests.

Agreed, as in DCA I don't recall any of the attractions having manual turnstiles. And not every DL has them, as I mentioned HM removed them years ago. So they really need to remove the remaining ones.

 

[Consumer]

Good, I like these.

On a side note, can they get rid of all the old manual turnstiles that still exists in many of the attractions queues too please. Like why do any of the FL attractions, or even JC, still have the old turnstiles in the queue at this point. I was happy when they removed them from HM, they need to remove them from all remaining attractions at this point.

They’re charming.

 

[Touchdown]

Can you trust the Magic Band to pull the right lightning lane/ multiple experience pass/ child switch return times etc? For example if I have multiple experience passes and a genie + return time. Is it smart enough to pull the G+ return time and not the multiple experience pass? When I use my phone I’m in control.

It’s permanently wedded to your account once you register it, and your information is not on the Magic band. The Magic Band instead has a unique ID all its own, Disney instead maintains a database on their system that ID connected to yours. I’ve never had a problem at WDW with them.

 

[VJ]

More details:




So sounds like this is going to make the gates themselves wider / accessible, but still maintain a guest CM interaction.

Paris for reference:

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i'm hoping the new ones are more.. themed, somehow. these ones in the picture are reminding me way too much of TSA when they should be giving off disney vibes

though i guess the current turnstiles themselves aren't themed but they somehow blend into the surroundings better (or maybe i'm just used to them since they've been there for like 30 years at this point)

 

[PiratesMansion]

i'm hoping the new ones are more.. themed, somehow. these ones in the picture are reminding me way too much of TSA when they should be giving off disney vibes

though i guess the current turnstiles themselves aren't themed but they somehow blend into the surroundings better (or maybe i'm just used to them since they've been there for like 30 years at this point)

Perhaps if the internet were around in the 80s, people would have been upset about these current turnstiles.

"HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THE GIANT EXIT LETTERS ABOVE THE DESIGNATED EXIT AREA, NO ONE WILL KNOW HOW TO GET OUT, WALT WOULD BE ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE!!!"

 

[VJ]

Perhaps if the internet were around in the 80s, people would have been upset about these current turnstiles.

"HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THE GIANT EXIT LETTERS ABOVE THE DESIGNATED EXIT AREA, NO ONE WILL KNOW HOW TO GET OUT, WALT WOULD BE ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE!!!"

i'm definitely not upset, it's a change that should have been made 10+ years ago so i'm all for it, but my brain is always apprehensive when it comes to changing longstanding "fixtures" of the park i guess it's just gonna take some getting used to like all the many other disneyland changes

 

[Disney Analyst]

i'm hoping the new ones are more.. themed, somehow. these ones in the picture are reminding me way too much of TSA when they should be giving off disney vibes

though i guess the current turnstiles themselves aren't themed but they somehow blend into the surroundings better (or maybe i'm just used to them since they've been there for like 30 years at this point)

I can say that in terms of the entry experience, all I care about is ease of use and efficiency.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Meant to post this. Perhaps they’ll go the Tokyo route as seen here?



That version seems to have a CM interaction still, unlike Paris which is totally automatic.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Meant to post this. Perhaps they’ll go the Tokyo route as seen here?



That version seems to have a CM interaction still, unlike Paris which is totally automatic.

The CM in Tokyo is mainly there in case of any issues that crop up. Otherwise the locals all have their tickets ready, scan them on their own, and proceed into the park seamlessly without any interaction with the cast member required. Naturally, we got stuck behind the one person who didn't know the system, which is more of a problem at TDR than anywhere else, because they don't let anyone into the park gates (other than those staying at one of their hotels) until the park is actually open.

I could see Paris having a lower number of CMs around and orienting their gate remodel around that. Not sure how things might have changed over the past few years, but during my visits, Tokyo had more CMs on average than the US parks and Paris had fewer.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The rumour I keep hearing is the security union keeps standing in the way.

They needed a better system yesterday.

what’s wrong with the current system?

I like the new entrance gates. They sound like an improvement and will keep parties together in the same line.

It will also be nice to exit the park and not hear a CM shouting “strollers and wheelchairs only!!!! Everyone else through the turnstiles!!!”

 

[Disney Analyst]

what’s wrong with the current system?

I like the new entrance gates. They sound like an improvement and will keep parties together in the same line.

It will also be nice to exit the park and not hear a CM shouting “strollers and wheelchairs only!!!! Everyone else through the turnstiles!!!”

From what I’ve heard it’s a huge bottleneck, and takes too long. There is newer technology to make security faster and more seamless, already used at other Disney parks.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

From what I’ve heard it’s a huge bottleneck, and takes too long. There is newer technology to make security faster and more seamless, already used at other Disney parks.

From what I’ve seen and experienced it works fine. I’ve seen long lines and bottlenecks at the parks at WDW too.

 

[Disney Irish]

From what I’ve seen and experienced it works fine. I’ve seen long lines and bottlenecks at the parks at WDW too.

Just because it seems to "work fine" doesn't mean it can't be improved. For example if they add the Evolv system they were testing a few year ago there would be almost no real lines as there would be no stopping. You just walk through and only get stopped for a wanding if they detect something.

It would be a better system overall.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Just because it seems to "work fine" doesn't mean it can't be improved. For example if they add the Evolv system they were testing a few year ago there would be almost no real lines as there would be no stopping. You just walk through and only get stopped for a wanding if they detect something.

It would be a better system overall.

From what I’ve seen directly comparing the 2, the evolv system they take it down to only 1 or 2 entries meaning you still have long lines during peak times.

I personally prefer the Disneyland method.

 

[Disney Irish]

From what I’ve seen directly comparing the 2, the evolv system they take it down to only 1 or 2 entries meaning you still have long lines during peak times.

I personally prefer the Disneyland method.

Not sure why you assume they would take it down from the current number of scanning points all the way down to 1 or 2.
I would assume they would reduce the number of scanners, but not all the way down to 1 or 2. I would imagine it would be down to 3-6 at least, if not more. It would still reduce lines and waiting even with less scanners as people would be continuously walking instead of stop and go.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Not sure why you assume they would take it down from the current number of scanning points all the way down to 1 or 2.

That assumption is based on what they did at Walt Disney World. But if you’re convinced the WDW is better that’s fine. You probably think Cinderella castle is better too!!!!

 

[Disney Irish]

That assumption is based on what they did at Walt Disney World. But if you’re convinced the WDW is better that’s fine. You probably think Cinderella castle is better too!!!!

I’ve never been to WDW, but I’ve seen the system in use at other venues and know it’s much faster than the traditional scanners used at DLR today.

Also while TDA does do some weird things it can’t be assumed they’d do the same thing as TDO and bring it down the scanners to only 1 or 2.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’ve never been to WDW, but I’ve seen the system in use at other venues and know it’s much faster than the traditional scanners used at DLR today.

Oh yeah it (evolv) works great at the Smithsonian. It’s fine at Disney Springs too, where it’s low crowds. But the way WDW uses them at park entrances is a total cluster and I much prefer the Disneyland entrance.

Just my experience and opinions though.

 

[truecoat]

To me, having to charge a MagicBand would defeat the purpose of a MagicBand.

The MB I got for free at WDW in 2017 didn't require charging, but the new ones do? So much for "progress."

Except when the battery dies. I think they were supposed to last 2-3 years on the old MBs.