Disneyland officially reopening April 30th

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Looks like I chose wisely.

By the way, here's my silvenir magnet:

 

[Stevek]

I am going to pretend I did not just read this and I'm gonna go to Disneyland on Sunday and have a good time in my delusion.

search Disneyland Capacity on Twitter and see some of the responses.

 

[mickEblu]

search Disneyland Capacity on Twitter and see some of the responses.

Dammit Disney, I know they re a business but they couldn’t just keep it at 25% until June 15th as they continue to work out the many kinks?

Also I’m wondering why the guidelines are even set up the way they are. Increase park capacity but not ride capacity? Shouldn’t those two things go hand in hand.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Blame Gavin, not Disney

 

[mickEblu]

Blame Gavin, not Disney

He’s received plenty of my blame.

In regards to Disney just because they can increase capacity doesn’t mean they should. The fact that it’s taking two hours to get a mobile ordered hot dog means they should probably hold off. They couldn’t even feed/ accomodate the people that are at the parks at 25% due to the staffing issues and tier restrictions. Don’t the tiers go to hell on 6/15 anyway? Damned if they leave a penny on the table.

 

[Californian Elitist]

This is not Newsom’s fault, but Disney’s. They made this decision.

 

[Stevek]

Dammit Disney, I know they re a business but they couldn’t just keep it at 25% until June 15th as they continue to work out the many kinks?

Also I’m wondering why the guidelines are even set up the way they are. Increase park capacity but not ride capacity? Shouldn’t those two things go hand in hand.

I’m going to see how it plays out over the next couple of weeks. Wait times didn’t look bad on the app this afternoon and tonight for the most part. DCA looked a bit worse, at least for Racers and Guardians

 

[CaptinEO]

Remember the early hype. You put the app on your phone. You could join the the Resistance or the First Order. Vi would try to recruit you to the Resistance. You could 'go on missions', using your phone to download data from terminals around the land or switching them from red to blue. They had the hardware at the cash registers that would pick up data from your phone and Ky'le would give you a hard time about wrecking the Falcon or congratulate you on a good mission. I think there even was going to be credits for so many missions at the registers. That all got dropped at some point. As TP would say, Ky'le went back to talking about Susie's 4th of July party at Newport Beach.

I remember them talking about how Bounty Hunters would accost you for damaging the Falcon. Or how people would send you on quests.

It's dumb they gave up on this concept without even trying it for one day.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

It was a great idea to have an alien bounty hunter character harrrasing guests for damaging the Millennium Falcon ride.

 

[waltography]

I remember them talking about how Bounty Hunters would accost you for damaging the Falcon. Or how people would send you on quests.

It's dumb they gave up on this concept without even trying it for one day.

They tried it with the Legends of Frontierland but they didn't like the player behavior at the parks, I guess. Rather than tone it down (because LoF was kind of messy, to be honest), they just nuked it entirely by having it all on the data pad.

 

[CaptinEO]

They tried it with the Legends of Frontierland but they didn't like the player behavior at the parks, I guess. Rather than tone it down (because LoF was kind of messy, to be honest), they just nuked it entirely by having it all on the data pad.

Well Legends of Fronteirland was done in 2013, Star Wars Land wasn't even announced for 2 more years.

They were talking about all this stuff (quests, interactivity) all the way till 2019.

 

[waltography]

Well Legends of Fronteirland was done in 2013, Star Wars Land wasn't even announced for 2 more years.

They were talking about all this stuff (quests, interactivity) all the way till 2019.

2014! Scott Trowbridge was involved in the play testing that occurred then, I think. Perhaps when the entertainment budget got slashed all the character actors that would've supported the role-play were cut too, hence the watered-down versions we got through the app. (Basing this also off the news of the Starcruiser experience where the characters are basically doing a lot of improv; we might end up seeing what could have been in the parks through that.)

 

[CaptinEO]

I *think* in order for it work, guests would need to have their Bluetooth on or maybe just the wifi so it would connect to the cashiers devices. But most guests wouldn't so it the cms wouldn't know how well or bad you're doing.

I think it's so lame that for all the "interactivity" they promised, the only thing they could think of was a cashier talking about the Millennium Falcon, and nothing else. And they only did this for maybe 2 weeks.

 

[el_super]

He’s received plenty of my blame.

In regards to Disney just because they can increase capacity doesn’t mean they should. The fact that it’s taking two hours to get a mobile ordered hot dog means they should probably hold off. They couldn’t even feed/ accomodate the people that are at the parks at 25% due to the staffing issues and tier restrictions. Don’t the tiers go to hell on 6/15 anyway? Damned if they leave a penny on the table.

You wanted the park open.

 

[el_super]

You act like its a bad thing if Disney has things people want to take pictures of.

If Disney's new creations don't warrant photos that just means they're failing to capture interest.

So everything has to be instagrammable?

It's not a bad thing when people want to take pictures, but it can be a bad thing if they start clogging up walkways, jockeying for position with other guests and generally create a hazardous situation for the performers.

Sometimes these things sound great on paper but from an operations standpoint, there are no workable solutions. Especially when you consider how park attendance basically capped out between 2017-2019.

What's really funny here is how the answer seems so painfully obvious: halfway through the SW:GE construction, you can see that their focus completely shifted from managing crowds to trying to eliminate them. They realized they couldn't offer the same experience they promised in 2016, with the crowd levels where they were. Now they are on year 3 of a multiyear plan to eliminate the crowding problems of the past.

Maybe if they do, the droids will show up.

 

[el_super]

They tried it with the Legends of Frontierland but they didn't like the player behavior at the parks, I guess. Rather than tone it down (because LoF was kind of messy, to be honest), they just nuked it entirely by having it all on the data pad.

Yeah: Legends of Frontierland was a mess, but again, I think that was due mostly to the crowding and the type of people coming in than anything else.

I still think that level of interactivity is going to wind up being the future of theme parks, but it's going to take a radical, forward thinking plan to implement it for Disney.

 

[CaptinEO]

So everything has to be instagrammable?

It's not a bad thing when people want to take pictures, but it can be a bad thing if they start clogging up walkways, jockeying for position with other guests and generally create a hazardous situation for the performers.

Sometimes these things sound great on paper but from an operations standpoint, there are no workable solutions. Especially when you consider how park attendance basically capped out between 2017-2019.

What's really funny here is how the answer seems so painfully obvious: halfway through the SW:GE construction, you can see that their focus completely shifted from managing crowds to trying to eliminate them. They realized they couldn't offer the same experience they promised in 2016, with the crowd levels where they were. Now they are on year 3 of a multiyear plan to eliminate the crowding problems of the past.

Maybe if they do, the droids will show up.

I disagree with this entirely, it sounds like a bad excuse to build an empty uninteresting land.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

This is not Newsom’s fault, but Disney’s. They made this decision.

Just curious, does yellow tier still include the indoor attractions 15 minutes or less requirement?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Just curious, does yellow tier still include the indoor attractions 15 minutes or less requirement?

Yep. Capacity just increases and people go...somewhere?

It‘s almost as though the guys making the rules don’t know how theme parks are run.

 

[mickEblu]

You wanted the park open.

And?