PiratesMansion
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What do those people buy tickets to do?
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Disneyland During A Recession - Anaheim's 2022-23 Strategy?
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Disstevefan1
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Disney says they can do whatever they want as long as they pay the full gate price.
PiratesMansion
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But ultimately the point of buying a ticket is to get into the theme park gate.
Y'know, that thing you need to do to access ~95% of anything of value at DLR.
What do they want to increase? Per capita ticket revenue.
How do they do that?
Get people to buy tickets to get into the theme park gate.
This isn't hard.
What do they want to increase? Per capita ticket revenue.
No, they want to increase OVERALL revenue. If you increase per capita ticket revenue and lots fewer people buy tickets, you lose overall revenue. If you reduce per capita ticket revenue to encourage more people to buy tickets, you can go too far and lose overall revenue. Trying to find the price point where you maximize overall revenue can be a tough balancing act. Though, you would think that after all these years, Disney would have reems of price point sensitivity for all kinds of economic conditions.
No, they want to increase OVERALL revenue. If you increase per capita ticket revenue and lots fewer people buy tickets, you lose overall revenue. If you reduce per capita ticket revenue to encourage more people to buy tickets, you can go too far and lose overall revenue. Trying to find the price point where you maximize overall revenue can be a tough balancing act. Though, you would think that after all these years, Disney would have reems of price point sensitivity for all kinds of economic conditions.
And that brings us back to my original point... does TDA still remember what to do, and not do, in a recession?
I'm not confident that institutional memory exists now, 12 years after the last recession. Ed Grier? Ken Pot-who?
Disstevefan1
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It goes back to what we all know already.
Disney Data says the folks who enter a park with an AP do not spend "enough" money.
But that's not the metric they're focused on today. That will likely change, but for now, it's on per guest spending. Maybe that's because of the pent up demand and it being easy to get bodies through the gates. That will change at some point.
Can anyone be shocked though that with Chapek in charge, they are focusing on the merchandise sales?
truecoat
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I agree that streaming has replaced DVD sales. They barely sell DVD's now at all, and at my local Best Buy they now have a larger section devoted to vinyl records than they do to DVD's. Don't get me started on how funny I think it is that the kids are into vinyl records!
But when fans like us bought DVD's twenty years ago for $25, and blu-rays a decade ago for $30, that was impactful revenue. Now we get all the movies we want for 8 bucks a month. Soon to be 10 bucks a month. And the division that creates that service hasn't been profitable yet, and isn't scheduled to eek out a profit for at least two more fiscal years.
Meanwhile, the movie studios in Disney's stable keep gobbling up $175 to $250 Million per film in budgets that go God know's where. Honestly, why did Lightyear cost them $200 Million when Universal produced Minions this summer for $80 Million? Where's the missing $120 Million they spent on Lightyear?
Not to mention where all the missing ticket sales went for Lightyear, but that's a whole other story.
That can't be made up with 10 dollar a month streaming services and non-existent DVD sales.
I still buy discs for movies I like. I have a large collection and in a spot check of titles, many are not available for streaming except in a rental sense. The majority of people think that everything you could possibly want to watch is available on a streaming service now but the truth is far from it.
I'm not into a lot of animated shows but a bunch of them were sent to the phantom zone by the Discovery/Time Warner/HBO merger. Some can be rented on Apple or Amazon but for people that liked to stream those titles, they are gone.
Phroobar
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Do you rip you dvds and stream them to your tv with plex? That is what I do. Thrift stores are great for finding dvds for couple of dollars.
PiratesMansion
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If you love something or want to be able to watch it whenever (and not have to worry about an internet connection), I think that merits a physical media purchase even today.
There's nothing obligating corporations to keep titles on streaming platforms (and there are lots of movies and TV shows that will never make it onto streaming, or studios feel no rush to put out there because they're not "marketable"), and as stated the Warner Discovery merger is leading to titles that aren't available on DVD being permanently deleted. It's like we're back to pre-videotape days when old networks would just wipe shows they thought had no value anymore.
Even if you usually find that something is streaming somewhere, things often bounce from service to service, and chances are you don't have subscriptions to all of them. There are a few things that I used to love watching (ex. BBC nature documentaries) that just flat out aren't streaming anywhere right now. You can never assume that something will always be available on streaming, even it if is ostensibly a well-liked product.
I still have almost all of the DVDs I've ever purchased and I really think that sooner or later people will realize what is happening and regret their rush to abandon physical media.
Now I just have to figure out how to get Disney to release Imagineering Story, Howard, Hamilton, and the other streaming exclusives that I would give them money for in a heartbeat if I could just get them on Blu-ray!
There's nothing obligating corporations to keep titles on streaming platforms (and there are lots of movies and TV shows that will never make it onto streaming, or studios feel no rush to put out there because they're not "marketable"), and as stated the Warner Discovery merger is leading to titles that aren't available on DVD being permanently deleted. It's like we're back to pre-videotape days when old networks would just wipe shows they thought had no value anymore.
Even if you usually find that something is streaming somewhere, things often bounce from service to service, and chances are you don't have subscriptions to all of them. There are a few things that I used to love watching (ex. BBC nature documentaries) that just flat out aren't streaming anywhere right now. You can never assume that something will always be available on streaming, even it if is ostensibly a well-liked product.
I still have almost all of the DVDs I've ever purchased and I really think that sooner or later people will realize what is happening and regret their rush to abandon physical media.
Now I just have to figure out how to get Disney to release Imagineering Story, Howard, Hamilton, and the other streaming exclusives that I would give them money for in a heartbeat if I could just get them on Blu-ray!
chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
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I went the Plex route about 6 months ago. Purchased a 2-drive bay Synology NAS which sits in my closet. It's currently got 10TB of storage which I'm already using about 65% of it for movies and tv shows. I ripped all of my BD/DVDs into it. Got about 600 movies and 87 tv shows at my fingertips. I moved all of my music library to it as well and use Plexamp on my phone with CarPlay for my tunes.
What's nice about Plex is you can share your media libraries with family and friends.
No Name
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Huh? I disagree with their strategy but getting more people to buy tickets doesn’t increase their per capita revenue.
truecoat
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I haven’t gone that route. I love my collection and started buying premium releases for films I really like, steel books, media books, and other collectible blu rays.
Since I started buying movies going back to VHS days, I absolutely hated most cover artwork. Especially ones that slap all the stars on the front with their names and maybe a couple reviews thrown in to really make it look bad. Most steel books and premium editions have great artwork and it makes me happy.
Uh, oh. I’m really off topic here but what else is new.