Disneyland/D23 questions

Figments Friend

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I will agree that the Expo is a total 'advertisement' and utter Disney marketing orgy.
As it is a Company convention, it should not be a big surprise that they are going to promote every new product coming up and tie those into the various presentations.
There was definitely a lot of emphasis on that.
It's all about promoting the various studio films, tv shows, Theme Park offerings, licensed merchandise, and Radio Disney acts.
A large part of the scheduled offerings revolve around those aspects and it is a part of the experience of attending an Expo.
You get to see that firsthand and perhaps be entertained by it all.

I liked those aspects, but my focus was WDI related and Theme Parks.
Besides traditional animation, those are my primary interests related to 'Disney'.


It's the merchandise aspects that got a little nutty.

I found such a large percentage of the Expo marketing and general hype lead up to the weekend to be heavily connected to merchandise endorsement, particularly the Expo Exlusive offerings.
It was pounded into your head pre-Expo that if you didn't buy all this 'Limited Edition' stuff, you were surely going to have a lesser experience.
I don't do the 'Limited' collectibles thing....and don't call me Shirley.
Well, maybe I am dramatizing that a little based on my impressions...but dang.
I felt the push encroaching on the 'magic' a little.


There was SO much emphasis on 'buying stuff'....so much promotion and 'reminders' to get your gear even before you stepped one foot inside the Convention Center.
It was annoying for me pre-Event and I remember commenting on it in one of my lengthy pre-arrival Expo posts in the main thread on this Forum.


Far too much focus on 'buying stuff' I thought, but it is clear the shopping aspect is a BIG deal to a lot of people who attend.
A really big deal.
People were camping overnight just to buy 'stuff'...forget the morning panels!

I was one of the very few it seemed who did not want to rush to grab the Limited Expo Exclusive Tsum Tsums sets or Once Upon a Time dolls from the pop up Dizzy Store.
People went to insane ( and insanely expensive ) lengths to acquire those items.
Not knocking fans into that sort of pursuit, just found it all a eye full.
There were plenty of folks carrying huge bags of stuff around...even suitcases full of stuff.
So I can understand why the shopping aspect is so heavily promoted during the Expo marketing and pre-event announcements.

I was more interested in seeing what the dealers and other fans might be selling on the Show Floor as far as looking at merchandise goes.

I saw very little of interest at the booths as far as items that might have tempted me to buy.
I had to chuckle at some of the prices for some items I owned (mostly old toys).
The artwork was nice to see, but nothing I wanted to take home.
It was worth checking out, and some booth owners had some great displays but in the end I did not purchase anything from the booths.
Prices are high as to be expected from dealers trying to sell directly to a core consumer audience.
I still enjoyed looking , however.


There was nothing of interest for me in the much trumpeted Show Floor pop up stores, the much herelded Dream Store and Disney Store.
Read so much about both of these before I went, but the only one I was willing to wait in line for was Mickey's of Glendale ( WDI's shop ) .
That one was the best of the lot, but you had to wait in a very long line to enter.
It was worth it for me ( both times ) as I found some very nice gems there I am quite happy to have.

If you want to go crazy and drop a few thousand dollars in merch at the Expo, you can totally and very easily do that.
I spent maybe $80 at MOG for two vintage shirts, a WED bolo lanyard / ID holder and two beautifully designed trading pins over two separate days.
That was my 'haul' from the Expo offerings.

If you can mentally block out all the merchandise hawking, there is plenty of eye candy as far as displays and various pavilions go.
The WDI and Disney Archives pavilions are always the must visits.
Always some great things to see the there!


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216bruce

Well-Known Member
I will agree that the Expo is a total 'advertisement' and utter Disney marketing orgy.
As it is a Company convention, it should not be a big surprise that they are going to promote every new product coming up and tie those into the various presentations.
There was definitely a lot of emphasis on that.
It's all about promoting the various studio films, tv shows, Theme Park offerings, licensed merchandise, and Radio Disney acts.
A large part of the scheduled offerings revolve around those aspects and it is a part of the experience of attending an Expo.
You get to see that firsthand and perhaps be entertained by it all.

I liked those aspects, but my focus was WDI related and Theme Parks.
Besides traditional animation, those are my primary interests related to 'Disney'.


It's the merchandise aspects that got a little nutty.

I found such a large percentage of the Expo marketing and general hype lead up to the weekend to be heavily connected to merchandise endorsement, particularly the Expo Exlusive offerings.
It was pounded into your head pre-Expo that if you didn't buy all this 'Limited Edition' stuff, you were surely going to have a lesser experience.
I don't do the 'Limited' collectibles thing....and don't call me Shirley.
Well, maybe I am dramatizing that a little based on my impressions...but dang.
I felt the push encroaching on the 'magic' a little.


There was SO much emphasis on 'buying stuff'....so much promotion and 'reminders' to get your gear even before you stepped one foot inside the Convention Center.
It was annoying for me pre-Event and I remember commenting on it in one of my lengthy pre-arrival Expo posts in the main thread on this Forum.


Far too much focus on 'buying stuff' I thought, but it is clear the shopping aspect is a BIG deal to a lot of people who attend.
A really big deal.
People were camping overnight just to buy 'stuff'...forget the morning panels!

I was one of the very few it seemed who did not want to rush to grab the Limited Expo Exclusive Tsum Tsums sets or Once Upon a Time dolls from the pop up Dizzy Store.
People went to insane ( and insanely expensive ) lengths to acquire those items.
Not knocking fans into that sort of pursuit, just found it all a eye full.
There were plenty of folks carrying huge bags of stuff around...even suitcases full of stuff.
So I can understand why the shopping aspect is so heavily promoted during the Expo marketing and pre-event announcements.

I was more interested in seeing what the dealers and other fans might be selling on the Show Floor as far as looking at merchandise goes.

I saw very little of interest at the booths as far as items that might have tempted me to buy.
I had to chuckle at some of the prices for some items I owned (mostly old toys).
The artwork was nice to see, but nothing I wanted to take home.
It was worth checking out, and some booth owners had some great displays but in the end I did not purchase anything from the booths.
Prices are high as to be expected from dealers trying to sell directly to a core consumer audience.
I still enjoyed looking , however.


There was nothing of interest for me in the much trumpeted Show Floor pop up stores, the much herelded Dream Store and Disney Store.
Read so much about both of these before I went, but the only one I was willing to wait in line for was Mickey's of Glendale ( WDI's shop ) .
That one was the best of the lot, but you had to wait in a very long line to enter.
It was worth it for me ( both times ) as I found some very nice gems there I am quite happy to have.

If you want to go crazy and drop a few thousand dollars in merch at the Expo, you can totally and very easily do that.
I spent maybe $80 at MOG for two vintage shirts, a WED bolo lanyard / ID holder and two beautifully designed trading pins over two separate days.
That was my 'haul' from the Expo offerings.

If you can mentally block out all the merchandise hawking, there is plenty of eye candy as far as displays and various pavilions go.
The WDI and Disney Archives pavilions are always the must visits.
Always some great things to see the there!


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I waited for one of the 'big' retail stores. The wait was at least an hour and once I got in, there was absolutely nothing of interest. Like you said, lot's of limited edition stuff. (limited edition is really any number of items less than infinity). Mickey's of Glendale had similar stuff to the last couple of years, so not much there either. The best items I got were at the Vans shop- a great pair of canvas Donald sneaks and matching shirt. No wait! Also picked up the Silly Symphony vinyl set which was pricey but is incredibly cool. Also, no wait.
I think what honked me off was while in line, waiting and waiting was I realized "You know, I could be at Disneyland." So, I told my son, "See ya later, text me when you come over to the Park" and I left for a lap around the Park on the train, saw Mr. Lincoln. Time much, much better spent.
 

radiohost

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I keep the 'ol iPhone charged and follow Twitter for all the latest 'breaking news' and watch the presentations that night on YouTube.

I cannot see myself waiting in line for 5+ hours to watch a presentation. To tour the exhibits would suit my interest just fine.
 

Phroobar

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If you think the merchandising is bad at D23, you need to check out San Diego Comic Com. It is huge with that kind of stuff. It is the venders that pay for the show. These things are nothing but giant flee markets with celebrity panels and you have to pay to get into. Star Wars Celebration is the same.
 

Figments Friend

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The big draw for me at last years Expo was a couple of the WDI centric panels, the WDI pavilion, the Archives, and just strolling the Show Floor to take it all in at my own pace.
You can have a good time just doing and seeing what is offered on the Show Floor for a few hours without doing any panels.
The displays and various exhibits were well worth seeing.
It's also nice to just walk around the Show Floor.
You never know who you might see wandering around in the crowd with you!


Attending the two main panels that were 'must dos' for me, and meeting Tony were the absolute highlights and those were the things I had set out to do.
Goals achieved.
Everything else ( including a good nights sleep and healthy eating ) was secondary!
:happy:

I went also to see the fan scene and what they were showcasing.
The costuming is always fun, and during the afternoons hundreds of people were dressed up as all sorts of characters and hanging around outside in the plaza area in front of the Convention Center.
If you needed some fresh air or a break from the crowds inside, it was a great place to just blow off some steam.


I would say that is a important tip too for 'newbies' coming into the Expo....
Just like a visit to the Park, it's important to make time for a break.
Disneyland is so close ( literally a 20 minute walk down the street ) that you can easily take a break from the Expo scene and go ride some Attractions or watch a Parade.

You have to pace yourself or you can become overwhelmed by everything going on.
This is another reason why it's good to decide well in advance what you want to do and see, and just focus on those goals.

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Figments Friend

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I waited for one of the 'big' retail stores. The wait was at least an hour and once I got in, there was absolutely nothing of interest. Like you said, lot's of limited edition stuff. (limited edition is really any number of items less than infinity). Mickey's of Glendale had similar stuff to the last couple of years, so not much there either. The best items I got were at the Vans shop- a great pair of canvas Donald sneaks and matching shirt. No wait! Also picked up the Silly Symphony vinyl set which was pricey but is incredibly cool. Also, no wait.
I think what honked me off was while in line, waiting and waiting was I realized "You know, I could be at Disneyland." So, I told my son, "See ya later, text me when you come over to the Park" and I left for a lap around the Park on the train, saw Mr. Lincoln. Time much, much better spent.

I hear ya Bruce.

One of the days I was there I happened to walk by the 'Dream Store' and there was no line.
Must have been Sunday, after the stampede of collectors blew through on Friday.
Anyway, I considered myself lucky to be able to check it out without having to wait.
Once inside, much of it was merch already being sold at the Disney Gallery or fan produced works.
Nice to look at, but nothing overly unique or interesting to my eye.

'Mickey's Of Glendale' had more interesting things, but it probably felt that way for me because of being a self confessed old school 'WED-head' and lovin' the selection of 'retro' themed items.
I also really liked the elaborate golden sculptured 'stained glass' pins that were being sold for the 60th there.
Never entered the Disney Store, as none of the Expo stuff appealed to me and the wait times were 3+ hours.
Not my kind of thing.

The longest I waited was about an hour and a half for a StagePass ticket to guarantee a seat for the one panel I really wanted to see ( 60 Years of Disneyland / WDI ).
That was after I had to wait almost three hours to enter the Convention Center building that Friday morning, with one of those hours being the actual time it took for people to be allowed into the building after the doors had already opened!
I also waited about an hour and a half to visit the 'Mickey's of Glendale' store.
Oh wait....I also waited that amount of time for French Fries at one of the food counters at the Expo.
Yeah, I've already tried to erase that from my memory....still can't believe it took that long and I stood there!

After those, i waited only an hour for a seat to the major 'Parks & Resorts' panel.
I considered myself very lucky, as people had been lined up for hours ( and even overnight I beleive ) to attend this and I managed to get in on a whim and only wait a measily hour!
It was a good one to attend.....some decent stuff announced and the best part was the crowd reactions.


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216bruce

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I hear ya Bruce.

One of the days I was there I happened to walk by the 'Dream Store' and there was no line.
Must have been Sunday, after the stampede of collectors blew through on Friday.
Anyway, I considered myself lucky to be able to check it out without having to wait.
Once inside, much of it was merch already being sold at the Disney Gallery or fan produced works.
Nice to look at, but nothing overly unique or interesting to my eye.

'Mickey's Of Glendale' had more interesting things, but it probably felt that way for me because of being a self confessed old school 'WED-head' and lovin' the selection of 'retro' themed items.
I also really liked the elaborate golden sculptured 'stained glass' pins that were being sold for the 60th there.
Never entered the Disney Store, as none of the Expo stuff appealed to me and the wait times were 3+ hours.
Not my kind of thing.

The longest I waited was about an hour and a half for a StagePass ticket to guarantee a seat for the one panel I really wanted to see ( 60 Years of Disneyland / WDI ).
That was after I had to wait almost three hours to enter the Convention Center building that Friday morning, with one of those hours being the actual time it took for people to be allowed into the building after the doors had already opened!
I also waited about an hour and a half to visit the 'Mickey's of Glendale' store.
Oh wait....I also waited that amount of time for French Fries at one of the food counters at the Expo.
Yeah, I've already tried to erase that from my memory....still can't believe it took that long and I stood there!

After those, i waited only an hour for a seat to the major 'Parks & Resorts' panel.
I considered myself very lucky, as people had been lined up for hours ( and even overnight I beleive ) to attend this and I managed to get in on a whim and only wait a measily hour!
It was a good one to attend.....some decent stuff announced and the best part was the crowd reactions.


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If this was your first Expo you'll find that Mickey's of Glendale has pretty much the same stuff every year. Variations of a few basic designs. The first year I went I thought it was amazing and spent a bunch. By last years show...same ol'.
My son is a Star Wars nut so he was way into the George Lucas induction in the Legends ceremony and the appearance of Harrison Ford, new Episode VII footage etc... me, I'm a Walt guy and every year there's less and less on him. Hey, enjoy next year's Expo. My wife and I will be on a DCL cruise to the British Isle's.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
The D23 division is a hot mess and has been since day 1. Constant turnover, no sense of purpose. When you ask people to pay to be part of a Disney fan club, and then give them Radio Disney content...you're out of touch with your core demo.
Time for my biennial post pointing out they are now 5 for 5 in the missed opportunity department by not having a high end park buyout for D23 on Friday or Saturday night.

@Mike S they are notorious for not posting the schedule until a week or two before, so you really need to buy the 3 day pass and determine what you want to see. I had to burn a day once just because there was nothing I cared to see.
 

Mike S

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Original Poster
Time for my biennial post pointing out they are now 5 for 5 in the missed opportunity department by not having a high end park buyout for D23 on Friday or Saturday night.

@Mike S they are notorious for not posting the schedule until a week or two before, so you really need to buy the 3 day pass and determine what you want to see. I had to burn a day once just because there was nothing I cared to see.
If I buy a two day pass can I pick the days I go or no? I just want to see the parks and one of the movie panels. Everything else will be a bonus.
 

Travel Junkie

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Pricing is out

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Figments Friend

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Yeah, I'm still going ;)

I'll be there too!

:D

You will enjoy yourself.
It is a blast, but after the three days you will need some rest.
Perhaps plan a few days after the Expo to enjoy the Parks and relax?

When I venture West, I am usually in town for the week.
Last August I arrived a couple of days before the Expo to settle in / Park visit.
After the Expo that weekend, I had another pair of days before leaving to recoup before the long trek back East.
Worked good for me.

Something to think about when you are making your plans.
:)
 

Mike S

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Original Poster
I'll be there too!

:D

You will enjoy yourself.
It is a blast, but after the three days you will need some rest.
Perhaps plan a few days after the Expo to enjoy the Parks and relax?

When I venture West, I am usually in town for the week.
Last August I arrived a couple of days before the Expo to settle in / Park visit.
After the Expo that weekend, I had another pair of days before leaving to recoup before the long trek back East.
Worked good for me.

Something to think about when you are making your plans.
:)
The plans already call for D23 being sandwiched between park days. We might only buy two days for D23 as well since we only care for two of the major panels and then walking around. That means four days of DLR :)
 

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