News Disneyland cancels Annual Pass program

oceanbreeze77

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I do think this will be bad for businesses both on property and off.... Disney just screwed restaurants and shops on harbor, even after they all lobbied for disney to open. Many pass holders knew the tricks to keeping a disney trip cheap, those businesses were a big part of it.
 

Brer Oswald

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My prediction?

A bunch of people at the start, then nothing. Disneyland already closer to looking like summer of '19 all over again. 😎
I do think they’re going to suffer more than they think they will. WDW is the tourist destination because it’s larger and more marketable. Not everyone is interested in travelling far to visit the park “Walt went to”.

I guess we’ll see. 🤷‍♂️
 

waltography

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This is gonna be a great transition to Flex pass tiers. I'll miss my Flex pass though - it was such a good value all things considered, essentially getting a Signature but with some planning.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Here's the first laugh for us...

"We will be sunsetting the current program." -Ken Potrock, January 14th, 2021

Sunsetting??? What the hell does that mean? Did he mean to type the word "ending" and somehow his TDA grammar software turned that into an HR buzzword called "sunsetting"?

And he actually thought it was normal to put the nonsense word "sunsetting" in an official public statement? :rolleyes:

Has Mr. Potrock been hanging out with Governor Newsom after all and they are drinking and buzzword buddies???
"Sunsetting" is used quite commonly in the online games industry. When a game is no longer going to get updates or fixes and is due be killed off (usually) within a year, they call that 'sunsetting,' The metaphor implies that its winding down rather than a complete stop. Although, with DL closed, the two are the same thing.
 

DavidDL

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I had only again purchased an annual pass for the first time in years back at the beginning of 2020. That didn't last long! Hah! Before that, my wife had only gone twice or so a year, paying full price each time (normally once during the "slow" season and the other during Halloween). That was enough for us before and I don't see why it shouldn't be now. Especially if those trips are made considerably better by more manageable crowds.

Seriously though, this change is something I never expected to see. So like, I'm not even sure what things will be like once the park finally re-opens fully. Will it be a better experience because everyone inside paid full price to get in, leading to less crowds? Or will they just re-instate the program once the world gets back to "normal"? I'm very interested to see how it plays out.
 

chadwpalm

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I do think they’re going to suffer more than they think they will. WDW is the tourist destination because it’s larger and more marketable. Not everyone is interested in travelling far to visit the park “Walt went to”.

I guess we’ll see. 🤷‍♂️
I think a lot of vacationers stayed away from Disneyland because it was a locals park and always too crowded. I think a lot more people who normally wouldn't choose Disneyland Resort as a vacation spot first will now start to reconsider.

I'm wondering if this will force them to rethink the single day tier pricing as well.
 

Mouse Trap

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It's quite obvious Annual Passes will return in some more expensive form that gives you less access.

At least in the short term what makes the most sense here is a "bulk visit" ticket where you're probably buying in tiers of 25, 50, 100, etc visits.

An annual pass was always a tough buy for me because we'd spend more than 5 days at Disneyland over a year, but never more than 15-20 days despite being an hour away. Essentially this scheme works for people like myself, but the reality is I'll probably be paying just as much for a 25 day access pass as I did for an annual pass that let me in 200+ days out of the year.

Now the people who spend 2-3 days out of the week at DL? They'll be in for a rough time the next year or two at least. I do think in some form "unlimited" visits will return eventually.
 

TP2000

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"Sunsetting" is used quite commonly in the online games industry. When a game is no longer going to get updates or fixes and is due be killed off (usually) within a year, they call that 'sunsetting,' The metaphor implies that its winding down rather than a complete stop. Although, with DL closed, the two are the same thing.

Ah, okay. Thank you!

So maybe Mr. Potrock is a big video game nerd?

Either way, it seems as though a Communications intern should have flagged that buzzword and realized it would be more professional and more clear if they put the word "ending" into Mr. Potrock's mouth instead of the buzzy "sunsetting".
 

CaptinEO

Well-Known Member
I honestly hope its gone forever, I hate the annual pass model for themeparks. They end up inflating standard one day admission to try to sell you multiple visits in bulk by getting a pass.

I'd love if themepark tickets here went down in price as a result. I'd love to visit Universal once a year but not for 110 dollars (AP is 130)(see what a problem that is?).

I hope this actually permanently ends. If someone wants to go to Disneyland a million times they can do it still, its their money. But at least now you wont have the overcrowding of people feeling the need to buy a pass to get a good value (and then having to do repeat visits).

I've enjoyed my annual passes but I'd be lying if I said this was anything but a good thing. This is great news.

No more people visiting every week for instagrammable cupcakes or the popcorn bucket of the week.

Best news I've heard Disney related in my life.
 

Mouse Trap

Well-Known Member
I honestly hope its gone forever, I hate the annual pass model for themeparks. They end up inflating standard one day admission to try to sell you multiple visits in bulk by getting a pass.

I'd love if themepark tickets here went down in price as a result. I'd love to visit Universal once a year but not for 110 dollars (AP is 130)(see what a problem that is?).

I hope this actually permanently ends. If someone wants to go to Disneyland a million times they can do it still, its their money. But at least now you wont have the overcrowding of people feeling the need to buy a pass to get a good value (and then having to do repeat visits).

I've enjoyed my annual passes but I'd be lying if I said this was anything but a good thing. This is great news.

No more people visiting every week for instagrammable cupcakes or the popcorn bucket of the week.

Best news I've heard Disney related in my life.

There is zero chance this results in one day ticket prices decreasing.
 

CaptinEO

Well-Known Member
My guess, Disney was going to revise or discontinue passes at some point down the line and the shutdown expedited it. They realized when they reopened the demand would be too high.

I'll happily buy tickets any time I want to visit.
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
Ah, okay. Thank you!

So maybe Mr. Potrock is a big video game nerd?

Either way, it seems as though a Communications intern should have flagged that buzzword and realized it would be more professional and more clear if they put the word "ending" into Mr. Potrock's mouth instead of the buzzy "sunsetting".
I wonder what his favourite Sonic game is?
 

CaptinEO

Well-Known Member
There is zero chance this results in one day ticket prices decreasing.
Not with the capacity restrictions anytime soon. I don't see any themepark tickets going anything but way up to compensate for this.

But I think the value people get out of tickets will be a million times better.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
I do think this will be bad for businesses both on property and off.... Disney just screwed restaurants and shops on harbor, even after they all lobbied for disney to open. Many pass holders knew the tricks to keeping a disney trip cheap, those businesses were a big part of it.

Why? It’ll just be a little harder to go on already busy weekends and holidays depending which tier you have. If someone wants to visit 3 times a week on weekdays they will most likely still be able to. Im referring to when its back to normal capacity... hopefully in mid 2022 sometime.
 

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