News Disneyland and Disney California Adventure Ticket Price Increases

Rich T

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…and it’s called “Less for More!”
 

Californian Elitist

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For some, probably a very small some, yes. But these aren't the people justifying the price increases are they? There are literally millions of people going to Disneyland each year. Despite all the complaints, there are people here on this board who continue to go once a month or more.

What percentage of Disneyland guests do you really think are mentally ill?




What exactly am I justifying here? That people will keep going to the parks, and that the price increases will not stop that? That's just reality there.
Of course they’re justifying the prices increases. They don’t care. They’ll pay whatever Disney wants so they can get their fix.

You know what you’re justifying. You seem to have no standards for the company.
 

Californian Elitist

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Yeah... I would agree but I generally think the prices are still at Walmart prices. I would be Ok with Disneyland charging a premium price for a premium experience.
The fact that you think Disney would actually provide a premium experience after charging premium prices is interesting. They’ve proven they can’t actually do that, though that’s always subjective, of course.

They’re charging $6,000 for folks to stay the night at a cosplay Star Wars hotel, and for all that money, you get amateur 2-step hour.
 

el_super

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Of course they’re justifying the prices increases. They don’t care. They’ll pay whatever Disney wants so they can get their fix.

Why try to frame this so negatively though? A fix as in a drug addiction? Why paint the people who still go, and still have a positive experience in such a negative light? There is definitely bias showing here.

You know what you’re justifying. You seem to have no standards for the company.

I haven't been in a long time, but when I do go, there is still a lot to do and see that still makes it enjoyable. I have personally seen a lot of standards slip over the course of the last 20 to 30 years, and I would probably be justified in saying that anyone who went in the last 20 years were contributing and justifying those changes too.

It's just as easy to say that you personally have contributed to the slipping standards over the last 20 years, but I wouldn't think that you have no standards. Just that they are different.

People have different standards and expectations. Respecting that is important. Comparing them to drug addicts is low.
 

Californian Elitist

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That's it exactly. If the company truly wants to honor Walt's 100th they need to go back to his dedication to making sure the park was clean, repaired, repainted, working every morning when it opened. It used to be expected; it needs to be again.
Amen. They should be ensuring that the park is in tip-top shape. It’s absolutely ludicrous that they want to have the celebration at Disneyland when there have been so many issues that have been reported. They should have absolutely done paint jobs around the park, spruced up the plants and vegetation, and FIXED BROKEN RIDES. And now they’re asking guests to pay nearly $200 on peak days for ONE PARK for what, exactly? To ride things with broken effects? Insulting.

Literally paying more for less.
 

Californian Elitist

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Why try to frame this so negatively though? A fix as in a drug addiction? Why paint the people who still go, and still have a positive experience in such a negative light? There is definitely bias showing here.



I haven't been in a long time, but when I do go, there is still a lot to do and see that still makes it enjoyable. I have personally seen a lot of standards slip over the course of the last 20 to 30 years, and I would probably be justified in saying that anyone who went in the last 20 years were contributing and justifying those changes too.

It's just as easy to say that you personally have contributed to the slipping standards over the last 20 years, but I wouldn't think that you have no standards. Just that they are different.

People have different standards and expectations. Respecting that is important. Comparing them to drug addicts is low.
You clearly haven’t met these types of guests, so there’s no point in continuing that part of the discussion. It IS negative.

Where did I say these folks are like “drug addicts?” A fix can apply to anyone and anything. If I want my Sprinkles red velvet cupcake fix, then I’m going to go out and get it to satisfy said fix.
 

el_super

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You clearly haven’t met these types of guests, so there’s no point in continuing that part of the discussion. It IS negative.

What percentage of Disneyland guests to you attribute to having this mental illness?

Is it really such a high percentage that it justifies any and every price increase? Really?
 

mickEblu

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Technically if you were somebody going to the park who was planning on buying Genie + and an individual Lightning lane for Webslingers you’re actually saving money now. That person is not me though.
 

Phroobar

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Technically if you were somebody going to the park who was planning on buying Genie + and an individual Lightning lane for Webslingers you’re actually saving money now. That person is not me though.
I can see how it would be hard to use Genie+ when your by yourself with the little ones. You just have to go with whatever is available and are willing to get out of line for a changing. You also have to pack food and deal with a stroller.
 

mickEblu

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I can see how it would be hard to use Genie+ when your by yourself with the little ones. You just have to go with whatever is available and are willing to get out of line for a changing. You also have to pack food and deal with a stroller.

Yeah there is no point of Genie + if you have young kids. Even just based on the included attractions alone. You’d pretty much be buying it for HM and IASW. Only time we buy it is when we re going with friends/ fam on day tickets.
 
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BuzzedPotatoHead89

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Yeah... I would agree but I generally think the prices are still at Walmart prices. I would be Ok with Disneyland charging a premium price for a premium experience.
This struck me a bit. While we’re certainly not at Saks Fifth Avenue pricing, I don’t think this is Wal-Mart level pricing either.

Even in the area where Disneyland is immediately located is the pricing in line with the median income of the average middle class Californian so they could afford to send their family of 4 on a 3 day trip once or twice a year when a single visit can easily run up $5,000? I’m not sure anymore.

According to the US Burea of Labor Statistics: The median household income in Californiais $77,358. The median for the whole of America is $67,521. This is pre-taxes. I’m not so sure if families have an extra $5-10k to throw around, particularly given present rates of relative wage stagnation and other marked cost of living increases. And this is coming from a currently unmarried man in LA who is privileged enough to earn far above this income bracket, I’m just providing this context as I’m worried that those in the LA-area Disney bubble, including it’s execs, and it’s sympathizers are seriously losing touch with plight of everyday middle income Americans when justifying these repeated “modest” price increases which will impact the company (and long term shareholder value) at some point in the future, even if not until the revolving door of current execs have already moved on to another company.

I think TWDC isn’t chasing a middle class audience which for better or worse is a departure from the Walt era. And as others have said to the extent there are those who sacrifice other life necessities to give there money to Disney, this is not an audience Disney should be proud to cultivate or pander to if under duress as a long term business strategy. There’s a difference between being a lifestyle brand and a hostile brand.
 

el_super

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I think TWDC isn’t chasing a middle class audience which for better or worse is a departure from the Walt era.

But is it really? Prices may have seemed cheaper in Wlats day, but there was still certain income requires needed to visit Disneyland. If you lived in California, you still needed to have a car in order to drive down to Orange County and if you were in middle America, enough stable income to take two weeks off to drive to California.

At the end of the day though, if there are so many people in the park that I can't even find a bench to just sit on, there are too many people who have access. I've seriously been in the position of going to a table service restaurant in the park, just to be gauranteed a place to sit. That was though, back when it was easier to get those reservations.
 

CaptinEO

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But is it really? Prices may have seemed cheaper in Wlats day, but there was still certain income requires needed to visit Disneyland. If you lived in California, you still needed to have a car in order to drive down to Orange County and if you were in middle America, enough stable income to take two weeks off to drive to California.

At the end of the day though, if there are so many people in the park that I can't even find a bench to just sit on, there are too many people who have access. I've seriously been in the position of going to a table service restaurant in the park, just to be gauranteed a place to sit. That was though, back when it was easier to get those reservations.
What does location have to do with anything? Busses, Cars, Taxis , and Helicopters could all take you to Disneyland in Walt's day. I'd love to see the price of Disneyland ticket books in 1955 (on average) vs admission today vs inflation.

People still need transportation to get to Disneyland.
 

shambolicdefending

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What's this...?

A typical Disneyland price increase met by a torrent of complaining, whining, and cries of "How can they justify this???" from people who will all remain regular Disneyland customers?

I'm officially declaring that society is now back to a post-pandemic normal. It's been a wild ride, but here we are full circle!
 

Californian Elitist

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What's this...?

A typical Disneyland price increase met by a torrent of complaining, whining, and cries of "How can they justify this???" from people who will all remain regular Disneyland customers?

I'm officially declaring that society is now back to a post-pandemic normal. It's been a wild ride, but here we are full circle!
Who’s “people?” The ones that have grumbled, myself included, as far as I know, aren’t regular visitors.

@Rich T Don’t you live in Florida?
@Consumer You don’t go to the parks a few times a month, right?
@CaptinEO How often do you visit the parks?
@Parteecia Are you regularly at the parks?
 

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