Eric Graham
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Have you seen the construction pictures on Attraction Magazine online. Epic Universe looks so awesome!
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Disney World needs major updating
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Sure - but there’s a difference between it being awesome and putting all other parks out of business.
Eric Graham
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Think I'll go to Dollywood after my last experience at Disney. This is a great story: A time ago my Mom's hairdresser worked in the movie industry doing hair. He was so nice. I believe he is also currently a youth pastor also. After Dolly Parton ended filming the movie she invited him up to her new place there to stay for free. I heard another great story not sure if it's true that she has a studio in her house and while someone was recording that she went in her kitchen and made chicken and dumplings for them.
Eric Graham
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Wasn't there a Simpson's episode a time ago making fun of Disney World about how most things weren't updated. Especially Epcot. And then Disney bought Fox....
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JoeCamel
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Your aware of the Disney Vault? Very deep and dark place, some properties never surface
Jrb1979
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This gets brought up a lot about many saying Disney will go out of business. IMO no one is saying that. What is being said is that right now and going into next year they are on a decline. From what some have said and all the discounts available the forecast for Winter into next summer don't look good at all.
I don't think Disney will ever go out of business due to who they cater mostly to. That is families with young children and it being a rite of passage for many Americans.
For me who grew up with the parks in the 80s and 90s from my point of view the parks have declined. A lot of that has to do with the changes in types of attractions. My love of Disney was due to dark rides like Horizons and World of Motion. Slow moving, storytelling attractions with lots of auto animatronics. Now they have moved to a more screen based flashy attractions
tanc
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Maintenance has been rough. All these new rides break down all the time, it's ridiculous. Hell, there's even other rides breaking down. The place is also just in rough shape. I've seen queues vandalized with heart etches, brand new rides already missing paint... hand sanitizer machines not filled.
But that's not the worst of all. By far the worst experience is virtual queue and the MDE app. MDE is a hell spawn upon WDW. The app crashes constantly, while I had no problem getting a VQ, it was just a pain to have to perfectly time things to get it.
MDE with genie + is like covering a turd in icecream sprinkles it doesn't help it at all. The UI has so many confusing dead ends to it. Why is there no button to see the genie plus list, I have to look at genie tips to see all the LL?
They should rebuild the app from the ground up and take it out of Iger's paycheck so they do it properly this time.
Honestly, this is the worst trip I've ever been on at WDW. Not having magical express, the constant ride break downs, dealing with VQ, the horrible app ect. It's just too much to keep up with. Tokyo Disney as this point is well worth the venture to so I don't have to deal with a majority of issues that are present in WDW. They don't have maintenance issues there, their app works well enough, no VQ, and as a solo traveller, it'd be the same price as WDW.
But that's not the worst of all. By far the worst experience is virtual queue and the MDE app. MDE is a hell spawn upon WDW. The app crashes constantly, while I had no problem getting a VQ, it was just a pain to have to perfectly time things to get it.
MDE with genie + is like covering a turd in icecream sprinkles it doesn't help it at all. The UI has so many confusing dead ends to it. Why is there no button to see the genie plus list, I have to look at genie tips to see all the LL?
They should rebuild the app from the ground up and take it out of Iger's paycheck so they do it properly this time.
Honestly, this is the worst trip I've ever been on at WDW. Not having magical express, the constant ride break downs, dealing with VQ, the horrible app ect. It's just too much to keep up with. Tokyo Disney as this point is well worth the venture to so I don't have to deal with a majority of issues that are present in WDW. They don't have maintenance issues there, their app works well enough, no VQ, and as a solo traveller, it'd be the same price as WDW.
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Ok but WOM has been gone since 1996 (when I was 10.) horizons in 1999 (when I was 13.) I am 37 now. This is nothing new - this is why I mention the nostalgia factor. As far as my life Test Track and Mission space have existed longer than what proceeded them. Not denigrating the former attractions but merely stating it’s nothing new - far before epic universe was even a thought in some executive’s head at comcast. I’d also add that the dark rides you yearn for I highly doubt is what is in store at Epic universe.
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Jrb1979
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I know it's the nostalgia factor but it's not about those rides. I was using them as examples. It's that type of dark ride that I like about Disney. These new attractions don't do much for me.
Really the only thing left that I find must do's are Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise, Tiki Room and Carousel of Progress
A lot of the new attractions are too screen dependent. While Universal is similar in that too they at least have some world class coasters to make up for it.
Marionnette
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I hope that your visit with the grandkids is magical. It's the only thing that keeps us holding onto our DVC contracts. We have 2 granddaughters (age 2 and 2 weeks). I want to witness the awe and wonder thru their eyes. Maybe that will bring the magic back for us.
Without trying to be disagreeable I, just completed a trip that involved visiting both Epcot and MK did not experience any of what is commonly cited here. I’ll acknowledge the changes in directions of attractions over the years - sometimes things are hits and misses but that’s a reality of trying to adapt to the changing demands of a target audience. But as far as general decline the place was literally spotless. A dirty area I observed in an absolutely mobbed quick service eatery I was in was addressed within 15 minutes the next time I walked by. I am sure Disney like every other employer in 2023 has suffered from staffing and supply chain crunches so I’m sure they have had some issues over the last few years. But every cast member I dealt with was the traditional super friendly - the table service restaurants we patronized were excellent with over the top friendly service and they seem to continue to try avoiding to cancel entertainment like parades and fireworks in lousy weather - tracking the weather up to the minute. It was a good trip.
Jumping Fountains
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This is me, 100%!
Mark Dunne
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Just got back from WDW , had a great time, but it was busy for 21st january, ASM bus lanes to M/K where mad, almost spring break mad id say, but all in all we have a blast, when we return, i always say that Adventureland need bulldozing and starting again, disney wake up, indiana jones should be in adventure land period, change J.C to a attraction worth riding, the cast members do a great job yeah, but disney has not updated that since the awful movie they made, IMHO J.C should be an Indiana jones themed cruise through jungles, then add a type of temple of peril attraction ( DLP ), TAKE THAT TREE DOWN!! rip out Aladdin, Tiki birds, start again, you could even have an UP river cruise, after all adventure's out there,( just not J.C, then we hop to tomorrow land and rip out speedway, add electric cars, or 3d dark ride , then close M.I.L.F add a pixar show or something like that , ,honestly have you ridden BTM in paris, it blows this one out the water, honestly it does, so id update B.T.M to be faster and not so clunky round the turns, ( have you ever sat in the front ) it takes an age to get up to speed, not much better than Barnstormer , all we here is blue sky this. blue sky that, Disney needs a duo of ideas,( walt, roy, eisner & wells I'm not sure this lot have a clue actually, and not TS 5, come on! Frozen 3 ( 2 was bad enough ), so Imagineering need supportand money, then see what they can achieve, sorry for rant, still love them parks though , and to all the friendly people we meet, just want some more love for MK.
jloucks
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....somebody had an extra cup or three of coffee this morning.
I am not surprised it was busy, and the busses were crazy. This has almost always been my experience. Tiki birds are awesome, no touchie.
And of course, more money investment (Frozen or otherwise) would be always welcome.
harryk
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This is right on -- why did they not add the Tiana flume ride and keep the Splash Mountain ride rather than the overlay they are doing? The addition would have been more than welcome and you would have ended up with 2 rides and a thinned out crowd. But additions are not in Iger's mind.
Mark Dunne
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Yeah sorry, we love WDW, come each year from the uk. spend a lot on G.P and I.L.L ( cos you aint getting on FOP unless you wanna queue for 90mins ) i actually feel for you guys , its very expensive, its different for us as is our holiday, so we just deal with the shock bill when we get home, but these parks are getting expensive, the food, we get vouchers which help our cost from the uk, M.K is always our first park we go to, and we love it, its just dated in areas where literally no love is shown, i don't get its crazy, look at epcot, the imagination attraction, shocking how Mr D marco cant see this needs love, they flog poor ole figment to death with pop corn buckets and tee's. spirits, lounglfly, then give him the worst thing there to showcase the little fella, ( although a 6ft walking figment is hardly the dragon i remember from 1993 LOL ) its like the honey i shrunk the audience, what's going on, they design an attraction like F.O.P and cant come up with a rpl 3d show for this pavilion , really sad....somebody had an extra cup or three of coffee this morning.
I am not surprised it was busy, and the busses were crazy. This has almost always been my experience. Tiki birds are awesome, no touchie.
And of course, more money investment (Frozen or otherwise) would be always welcome.
,we will always try and come back as love Disney sooooo much, they just need to focus a tad more on the parts of the business that work, there theme parks , thanks to all of you that make our stay fun and great !!
osian
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The Paris one is more recent and has more effects (so does Anaheim) but they're ostensibly the same ride. Paris is about 3mph quicker and a bit longer, both mainly due to the underwater tunnels between the station and the main part of the ride. I agree that the Paris one is better than the MK one but only because of that final drop in the tunnel, which is breathtaking. As I said, other than that, they're the same ride.
As to the speed in the front, this is a well-known phenomenon with coasters. Simialrly, people claim the back is faster. This is impossible. I take it you're talking about the section of the track after the top of the lift hills where it takes about 10 seconds for the front of the train to get going. This is because the rest of the train is still on the lift hill, going at the constant slow speed of the chain lift. Once the train has cleared the lift hill, that's when it starts picking up speed, but of course the front of the train is slightly further along the track than the back. The back will feel "whipped" over the top while the front will feel "pushed". Because that's exactly what's happening. The front will feel more force than the back at certain points of the ride, it will be slower than the back at the top of any downward slope (because the rest of the train is still travelling uphill and is decelerating) but will be faster as it starts to go up the next hill (because the rest of the train is still travelling downhill and is accelerating). Remember that BTM has mostly curved drops so that's why you think the front takes a long time to get started around the corners. The most natural feeling for force, acceleration and deceleration will be at the centre of the train. The front and back will travel at different speeds over any given piece of track but of course every part of the train travels at the same speed at the same time. The front is not "slower" than the back.
Well, I'm not quite sure about that.
Mark Dunne
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Yeah sorry barnstormer is an unfair example, it’s prob because when we came off Tron , we headed over for our GP big thunder, we were looking forward to sitting at the front, as never experienced that before , but won’t do that again , it’s really no fun at all .
osian
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I think the front two rows are also disappointing because the engine blocks the view! The front row sounds like it should be something special but it isn't really.
Best to experience BTM at night, it's much more fun, and quite special if you catch it during fireworks.
Mark Dunne
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Your so right re fireworks, we’ve done that , it’s brilliant, sorry I don’t mean to moan, we love WDW, try and go each year, so my requests to change the park are a little unfair, especially when I read that Disney actually expects people to visit every 3-5 years , but we love it sooo much, it’s a hard drug to give up , we love the Disney bubble , have a DCL in November, stay for 2 nights at contemporary ( which is a real bucket list stay) cos it’s only 2 night I think we may go the extra stretch. Thanks for reply
