Disney wants to invest $1 billion at Disneyland

mickEblu

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I'll have a Star Wars land at the Simba lot, Tommorow land revamp, Mytsic Manor spin off, fantasyland expansion and Marvel land at the DCA expansion pad please, hold the meet and greets.
 

Mouse Trap

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Just read this story a few minutes ago and I am glad to see it has hit this site so soon for discussion. This is very exciting news and hopefully an indicator in the direction both Disneyland and WDW are headed. More CapEx for the resorts!!!

What really gets me excited is they state as part of the deal construction would begin by 2017 so hopefully we would see some nice changes by 2020 at the latest.
 

Mawg

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This just means they are going to spend 1 million to bring in Fast Pass +, without details don't get your hopes up.
 

CJR

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It's starting to look like Star Wars land may have been cut up a bit at DL. $1 billion, as large as it may sound, isn't enough.

To do something size of taking up TT, the backstage areas, and the ranch, it would need to be north of $500 million by itself. My understanding is that's about the same amount also going toward FL's project (SW only, not Pixar and the other improvements).

It sounds like the bulk of the $1 billion is going to be infrastructure improvements, including the parking garage. Based on my understanding, that leaves room for one or two attractions. Since a Marvel attraction is likely to be one of them, that just doesn't bode well for a whole new state of the art land.

We'll find out for sure in a few months, never say never, I suppose.
 

TP2000

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It's starting to look like Star Wars land may have been cut up a bit at DL. $1 billion, as large as it may sound, isn't enough.

To do something size of taking up TT, the backstage areas, and the ranch, it would need to be north of $500 million by itself. My understanding is that's about the same amount also going toward FL's project (SW only, not Pixar and the other improvements).

It sounds like the bulk of the $1 billion is going to be infrastructure improvements, including the parking garage. Based on my understanding, that leaves room for one or two attractions. Since a Marvel attraction is likely to be one of them, that just doesn't bode well for a whole new state of the art land.

The 10,000 space Mickey & Friends Parking Structure cost $90 Million to build 15 years ago. The proposed new structure is apparently planned to have half that; 5,000 spaces. Assuming costs have doubled (they haven't, but for arguments sake), the new structure would likely cost around $100 Million.

Point Of Reference: John Wayne Airport just built a new 2,500 space parking structure. It's state of the art, with real time monitoring of every open space, and required some tricky engineering and logistics to be wrapped around an existing airport terminal. It cost $48 Million.

I bet Disney's 5,000 space structure built on an open field, even with some design extras, doesn't top $100 Million to build.

Not sure what other infrastructure they need to build, aside from minor changes to existing roads leading to the new parking structure. The massive freeway offramps and access are already there as well, built by Caltrans in 2000 and very lightly used today compared to the original design load they were built for. And as seen here, Disney Way is already built out at six lanes wide to accommodate its original purpose of leading to a big parking garage.
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I would imagine at most that $200 Million would be spent on the new 5,000 space garage and adjustments to existing streets around the Resort. That leaves $800 Million for Star Wars Land in Disneyland and Marvel Land in DCA.

Also buried in the story is the news that Disney will commit to spending an additional $500 Million if Anaheim agrees to ban the gate tax for an additional 15 years. That takes investment to 1.5 Billion by 2024, and likely includes the new deluxe hotel rumored for the East Shuttle Zone.

But like @GiveMeTheMusic says, this is a rather brazen money game being played by TDA. They already know they are going to spend this money and build these rides and a new parking structure. They are tying it to the convenient City Council vote next month on the gate tax.

The inclusion of Official Bozo Jim Hill in this article as some sort of insightful expert kind of damages the OC Register's credibility, however. :rolleyes:
 
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Suspirian

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This is just a way for them to repackage what they're going to do anyway to make a win-win for them and the city. This expansion includes Star Wars Land (DL), Marvel Studios (DCA) and the new parking structure on Pumbaa. Nothing new to see here, they're just acknowledging publicly that it's happening.

Will those be announced at D23 this year?
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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TP2000

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The OC Register continues to follow this story with more analysis this weekend.

They've also created an interesting map to where the expansion areas will likely be, and where they may not be.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/disney-668812-disneyland-attractions.html

In addition, there's a map that sure sounds familiar for those here used to my rantings about things I've heard at cocktail parties over in the corner where all the successful realtor's hang out.
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flynnibus

Premium Member
I do find it hilarious how no one seems to believe that Toontown and the surrounding backstage areas are going to be the new home of Star Wars Land.

I discount it based on the risk of closing for fireworks... I know the fireworks are a great point of conflict for dlr... But I hope they don't even consider getting rid of them. It seems there would need to be a lot more to make that location to work
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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I discount it based on the risk of closing for fireworks... I know the fireworks are a great point of conflict for dlr... But I hope they don't even consider getting rid of them. It seems there would need to be a lot more to make that location to work

The fireworks can still go off. That's obviously part of how they're planning the expansion. It's not an insurmountable problem.
 

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