MagicHappens1971
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Disney to provide Cast Members with free MMR vaccines
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WhatJaneSays
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Because there are people with compromised immune systems and/or autoimmune disorders that cannot be given certain (or in some extreme cases any) vaccines. And making batteries of vaccines 100% mandatory precludes people with those conditions from taking those jobs.
I’m 250% for vaccines. Anyone not in a compromised state SHOUD have the humanity to protect themselves and others. They don’t unfortunately and it’s dicey legally making it a requirement.
VJ
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Because we like you! M-O-U-S-Eeee...
StarWarsGirl
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Pretty sure that in this instance, even if they did make it mandatory, those who need a medical exemption would be able to get an exemption.
Also, why would they require it? Most Americans get the vaccine as children. What's to stop someone from lying and saying that they have it?
Like I said, this is an option for many CMs who didn't get the vaccine as children but now want it.
fillerup
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Just for context:
48 of the 50 states offer both a medical and religious exemption from vaccines.
Of those, 17 states (including California) throw in that oh so warm and fuzzy "philosophical" exemption.
Two states provide only for a medical exemption - Mississippi and West Virginia. Not surprisingly, no reported cases of vaccine preventable diseases in those two states since 2007.
48 of the 50 states offer both a medical and religious exemption from vaccines.
Of those, 17 states (including California) throw in that oh so warm and fuzzy "philosophical" exemption.
Two states provide only for a medical exemption - Mississippi and West Virginia. Not surprisingly, no reported cases of vaccine preventable diseases in those two states since 2007.
mp2bill
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No doubt.
Here in Florida it is mandatory for children to be vaccinated to attend public school. There are exemptions - medical & religious. And as the parent of a child who attended public school in Florida, just try getting around the requirement without an exemption. If you didn't provide that HRS (now DOH) blue form, the school hounded you. Which it should.
I had measles as a kid. Wasn't fun. Because of the potential for eye damage, I spent a week in my bedroom with windows covered in blankets. And had a very worried mother.
I'm a member of the last generation who needed to worry about polio. The next door neighbor's toddler son contracted polio. He and my oldest brother played all the time. My mother said she worried for days that her son would also contract polio. Plus she got to witness the anguish of that little boy's parents. So when that sugar cube was handed out at our schools, she made sure we kids were in line.
So every time I hear some idiot like Jenny McCarthy rant on about how the MMR vaccine gave her child autism, I want to scream. And remind her that the ophthalmologist who conducted the "study" on 12 subjects had his license to practice medicine revoked. For falsifying data, and basically the study.
PBS recently ran a story on TB. Watch it. Folks need to be reminded why vaccinations, especially childhood ones, are so important. Because they save lives.
Kudos to Disney for providing this safeguard for their employees. And I hope CMs are smart enough to take advantage. Especially since I will be there next week.
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unkadug
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And people like that should not be exposing themselves to working environments like WDW.
If your immune system is so weak that you cannot get an immunization then you certainly shouldn't be exposing yourself to the masses like you would be working with the public at WDW.....much less exposing all of them to any and all the disease that you pick up along the way.
Anyone working with the public should be vaccinated... no exceptions. Don't like it? Get a different job.
I agree. Thanks to 2 unvaccinated teenagers from Miami, one who was attending my university, our university had a measles epidemic in the 1980s. So for two to three weeks (and it was my last semester before graduation), everything was in turmoil. Everyone - and that included employees (faculty & staff) - either had to show proof of vaccination or get one; the university clinic was offering free vaccines. Only those of us born before 1958 were exempt. So for the first few days, most of my classes had maybe 5-6 students. Instructors had a roster of each registered student with that student's birthdate. To return to class, the student had to be cleared. And those rosters were provided on a daily basis. If you showed up and the list indicated you hadn't been cleared, the instructor told you to leave. And you left. And my accounting professor was absent for 3 weeks. Why? Because she was 7 months pregnant.
So thanks to those two teenagers, 30-40 students contracted measles and a major research university spent bucks and disrupted its students, faculty and staff to insure the outbreak was contained to just those 30-40 students.
So yes, vaccines ARE important. It is a matter of PUBLIC HEALTH.
I sure hope so. Otherwise they get to explain to little Timmy why their puppy had to be put down.
StarWarsGirl
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Listen, I am for vaccinations unless you need an exemption medically. What I'm saying is that Disney probably isn't going to force their employees to get vaccinations. It would be easy, though risky, for them to fake their records, and for those not born in the US, who knows if they even have records. The union might have a problem with it as well. It's a nice option for Disney employees, but Disney should not require it.
My problem with her is that she acts like autism is worse than illness or death. Not that there is any merit to the theory that vaccines cause autism, but as someone with a sibling who has autism, I find it rather insulting. Would I rather my brother not have autism? Absolutely. Would I rather he be here with autism than dead or with permanent complications from measles? Absolutely. So stupid.
My university could have cared less about what the faculty or staff unions or the students thought. Either provide proof of vaccination or go get a free (maybe it was reduced cost) vaccination at the university health center, because if you weren't born before 1958, you ain't coming back to class or campus. Period. The only exception would be folks who couldn't take the MMR vaccine due to medical reasons. And you had to have a note from your doctor. And I attended a public (state) university.
Frankly, I think Disney should do the same. If you cannot provide proof of vaccination, weren't born before a certain year, or have a valid medical exemption, then stick out that arm. Measles is a HIGHLY contagious disease. And the early symptoms (until the rash shows up) are similar to a bad cold or the flu. And I've sat on Disney buses with sick kids - and I mean kids with green goo coming out of their nose. I bet there are doctors missing a measles diagnosis because THEY'VE NEVER SEEN A CASE.
And for those antivaxxers who say "isn't it better to let the child build a nature immunity?", I say bullocks. You think it is better for a 6 month old baby to contract diphtheria than it is for a 4 week old infant to get a DPT shot? What do you think a vaccination with an attenuated virus does? Trust me, I wish I'd gotten my immunity to measles with the MMR shot than getting it.
Oh, and guess what? After that measles outbreak at my university in 1986, the university now requires proof of vaccination for admission. Or be born before 1958. Exception? Medical or religious. And this is a state school, not a private company like Disney.
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StarWarsGirl
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There are of course more medical reasons than just a compromised immune system.
Although rare, some may be allergic to the vaccine or its ingredients. I know someone who cannot get any vaccines because of the risk of nerve damage.
There are reasons individuals choose not to vaccinate, and not just because of a personal belief of a fear of vaccines.
And in every state those individuals would be medically exempt from mandatory vaccinations (and I'm mainly referring to children attending public schools) for the reasons you mention.
StarWarsGirl
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I agree that if you have a compromised immune system that you shouldn't expose yourself to the public. I think that's common sense and anyone who knows that they have a condition like that would find a different job.
But not all medical exemptions are based on a weakened immune system. Should someone who can't get the MMR vaccine because they are allergic to it not be allowed to work at WDW? I don't think that's fair.
Like I said, good option for CMs. But it should not be required.
unkadug
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Fair has nothing to do with the safety of the public. Not being vaccinated should equate to not working with the public.
Fair has nothing to do with it.
Since apparently measles HAS NOT been eradicated in the U.S. like previously thought, no. They are not protected, because apparently Patient Zero for the outbreak that started at Disneyland was a foreign visitor, or at least that's what the CDC mentioned. Look what has happened. One person infected with measles has now spread the disease to what, 6-7 states?
Personally, I think vaccinations for highly contagious diseases like measles should be mandatory. The ONLY exemption? Medical - for the very valid reasons mentioned. Sorry, no religious exemptions. You don't get to play with my health or the health of my family because of your personal religious beliefs. Don't like it? Go live somewhere else.
Do you know why the March of Dimes exists? Because President Roosevelt wanted to raise money for polio research. And MY generation (I'm a boomer), thanks to that research, is the LAST generation to live in fear of this terrible disease. Do I want to see a return to that fear thanks to some stupid and misguided anti-vaxxers? No, HELL NO.
Do you know why the March of Dimes exists? Because President Roosevelt wanted to raise money for polio research. And MY generation (I'm a boomer), thanks to that research, is the LAST generation to live in fear of this terrible disease. Do I want to see a return to that fear thanks to some stupid and misguided anti-vaxxers? No, HELL NO.
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