Disney to mandate full vaccinations to employees

GoofGoof

Premium Member
But not everyone will need it. I felt very little after both of mine and worked the night I got my second.
I was fine after both of mine too. I got mine on Thursdays so I did work the next day each time, but from home. I could see them just negotiating 2 free personal days to be used the day after shots or if not needed whenever the employee wants to use them. They could offer that to all workers even if they are already vaccinated.
 

HeartOfTeFiti

Active Member
But not everyone will need it. I felt very little after both of mine and worked the night I got my second.
I specifically said, "to recover from any vaccine reaction". Obviously, not everyone will need it. Some people are putting off getting vaccinated because they claim they can't afford to miss work if they don't feel well. I know several people who are saying this. As mentioned in the above post by @GoofGoof , this option could help incentivize people to take care of it sooner rather than later because if they do feel too unwell to work briefly they would still be paid. No, not everyone will need it, and only those who need it should take advantage of it.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I had a similar thought as others, if your employer mandates something are they liable in the rare case of adverse reactions?

I also agree with others who are on the fence on mandates, I got my vaccinations months ago but I’m not a huge fan of mandating someone put an emergency use chemical in their body, I prefer how the casinos in Vegas are doing it, unvaccinated employees will be tested and the employees are responsible for paying for their tests.

It doesn’t force anyone to get mandated, financially penalizes those that aren’t, and ensures the unvaccinated employees are negative.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I had a similar thought as others, if your employer mandates something are they liable in the rare case of adverse reactions?

I also agree with others who are on the fence on mandates, I got my vaccinations months ago but I’m not a huge fan of mandating someone put an emergency use chemical in their body, I prefer how the casinos in Vegas are doing it, unvaccinated employees will be tested and the employees are responsible for paying for their tests.

It doesn’t force anyone to get mandated, financially penalizes those that aren’t, and ensures the unvaccinated employees are negative.
I don’t think that would be the case. The vaccine will be a requirement of employment, but the company isn’t actually administering the vaccine and has no control over your body’s reaction. There’s no negligence there which would make them liable for issues. Not exactly the same thing, but if I want a job at the Polynesian as a lifeguard at the pool one of the requirements is that I pass a life guard training and certification course. If I injure my shoulder at the class getting certified Disney isn’t required to pay my medical bills because I was getting certified to qualify for a job with them. If I’m hurt on duty or while training on site then it would be a workers comp claim.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
Religious exemptions confuse me. Not believing you want it or deserve it, is a a belief, and therefore a religious reason. Just because it is not organized or popular does not make it seem different.

I am not trying to be a jerk, I just really don't know how that works or stands on its own.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
With this delta wave ramping up I wouldn’t be surprised to see more colleges start Mandating vaccines for students as well. Makes a lot of sense for the well being of the students and the campus life.
In regards to colleges, the college program kids working at WDW will have unique living conditions. They will be segregated in their housing. Vaccinated CMs live in one apt, unvax live in another. But all bets are off and since CP cast are not unionized, Disney can just require the CP cast to get vaccinated without question.
 

John park hopper

Well-Known Member
Disney has the right to require employees to be vaccinated as terms of employment but in the remote chance said employees have an adverse reaction to the vaccine is Disney liable ?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Religious exemptions confuse me. Not believing you want it or deserve it, is a a belief, and therefore a religious reason. Just because it is not organized or popular does not make it seem different.

I am not trying to be a jerk, I just really don't know how that works or stands on its own.
Religious exemptions are indeed rather nebulous... and tricksy. Because it then becomes the job of an employer or a school district official to determine whether a declared religious exemption is valid or not, and that becomes very problematic very fast.

Some states and school districts avoid that conflict by letting any claim go through. Some have expanded the exemption to 'philosophical exemption' to encompass personal beliefs. Some others, however, are strict; and unless you belong to an established denomination that has officially declared opposition to any vaccine (like Christian Scientists), your claim of religious exemption won't go through.

In the face of the latest measles outbreaks fueled by pockets of anti-vaxxers, some states have dropped the philosophical exemption, and even the religious exemption since those exemptions were being abused by anti-vaxxers who just wanted to opt out of vaccines, and not due to actual religious beliefs or tenets espoused by their denomination.

I have a friend who tells me that local Catholic Churches have often received requests from their (usually non-practicing) members for a letter to back up claims of religious exemptions from school vaccines and, and now, exemption from the COVID vaccine at their place of employment. And they're told (politely) to get lost. The Pope, their bishops, and their pastors have been vaccinated and the US conference of bishops have highly encouraged all their members to get vaccinated. No religious exemption if you're Catholic (half of all Christians in the world).
 

donsullivan

Premium Member
Religious exemptions confuse me. Not believing you want it or deserve it, is a a belief, and therefore a religious reason. Just because it is not organized or popular does not make it seem different.

I am not trying to be a jerk, I just really don't know how that works or stands on its own.
Some like to use 'religious reasons' as justification for not doing anything they don't want to do, as well as to justify how they choose to treat others. I (and I know I'll get attacked for this) typically only see the concept of religious freedom used when someone wants to use it as a justification for their discrimination against others.

If Disney is making this mandatory and you define a reason you cannot or will not be vaccinated they can choose to release you from your employment (at least in FL) or change your role to one that isolates you from guests and other employees to lower risk of spread into the employee base.
 

Patcheslee

Well-Known Member
I don't like the idea of employers getting involved in their employees medical decisions, even if they're good medical decisions.
My work has been doing it for years. If someone has their annual physical and even blood pressure is prehypertensive, they make us go to family doctor. Even if family doctor clears someone to work until the employee medical place releases, can't come to work. I was off a month because they wanted doctor to give me meds, but doctor refused due to me being thin.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
I don't like the idea of employers getting involved in their employees medical decisions, even if they're good medical decisions.

I understand the concern, but is that not what insurance would be? I would rather an employer be involved and have productive things than not care at all.
 

cmwade77

Well-Known Member
This is a bad idea, as the vaccine still only has emergency authorization, u til fully FDA approved, no one should be allowed to make it mandatory and even then, there are issues with that.

While it may seem insignificant, there have been over 2,000 deaths (some report over 12,000) caused by the vaccines. Not to mention other very serious complications, some long lasting, I know personally one person who is likely to have life long complications caused by the vaccine and if I personally know someone in my small circle, it is highly likely that there are a lot more. Until we understand why some people die or have serious complications, we shouldn't be making vaccines mandatory and even then there should be exemptions for those that are likely to have complications.

Then there's the fact that the vaccine companies are immune from being sued for such complications or even death. Again, until this is addressed, NO vaccine should be able to be made mandatory for anyone.
 

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