Disney Testing Paid Parking at Walt Disney World Resort Hotels

Biff215

Well-Known Member
My understanding was that that only confirms your a resort guest but not dining reservations. Has anyone tried to go to a resort without a dining reservation and scan your band to get in?
Just to be clear I'm talking about a handheld scanner that the security guards have, not the self-scan lane. They always look at the screen like it's showing them something, but as you said, I doubt it does much more than verify that my band is actively connected to a resort. The system should have this capability, I'm just not sure they use it.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
Just to be clear I'm talking about a handheld scanner that the security guards have, not the self-scan lane. They always look at the screen like it's showing them something, but as you said, I doubt it does much more than verify that my band is actively connected to a resort. The system should have this capability, I'm just not sure they use it.
That's the one I was thinking of. Those don't seem to work too well either, I've seen them have problems with them quite a bit.
 

Biff215

Well-Known Member
That's the one I was thinking of. Those don't seem to work too well either, I've seen them have problems with them quite a bit.
Yes, they typically go through the same routine where they take it out, attempt to turn it on, smack it a few times, yell at it, then finally attempt to scan my band before waving me through. I wonder every time whether they actually saw anything on their side or just satisfied that they went through the motions.

Most servers seem to go through a similar process every time we pay with our Magicbands so I won't blame it on the age of most of the security guards!
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
Yes, they typically go through the same routine where they take it out, attempt to turn it on, smack it a few times, yell at it, then finally attempt to scan my band before waving me through. I wonder every time whether they actually saw anything on their side or just satisfied that they went through the motions.

Most servers seem to go through a similar process every time we pay with our Magicbands so I won't blame it on the age of most of the security guards!
Someone was showing me one of those fairly early on in the program and was pointing out that where Disney placed the Mickey sticker is actually not where the RFID reader is located and so if you use it the way instructed to it actually doesn't work right. Apparently Disney was more concerned with the consistency of creating the perception that all touch points were the same.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
It's amazing to me how many people here, even hypothetically, justify extra parking fees for people already staying on property.

And I have never paid to park in any Orlando area hotel.

The Downtown Disney Holiday Inn charges a 'resort fee' that includes parking and wifi, so does the Holiday Inn just east of DTD/DS.

Many hotels in areas with limited parking space charge, simple supply and demand. I don't personally believe Disney should charge resort guests for parking but should have a small visitor lot that provides short term parking for non resort guests, two hours free then a jacked up rate that eliminates guests parking there to avoid the park lots.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The Downtown Disney Holiday Inn charges a 'resort fee' that includes parking and wifi, so does the Holiday Inn just east of DTD/DS.

And the Radisson just down the street at Crossroads.. and many others don't. What's your point? We all know some hotels (and depending on area.. all hotels) charge for parking. But in this area, far more don't than do... because its such a competitive market. Many that do.. honestly I think do it because they know they can do it within their brand's image without much pushback... or do it because they know they are business focused.

Poll your friends.. how many actually stay in the DTD Hotel Row?
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
And the Radisson just down the street at Crossroads.. and many others don't. What's your point? We all know some hotels (and depending on area.. all hotels) charge for parking. But in this area, far more don't than do... because its such a competitive market. Many that do.. honestly I think do it because they know they can do it within their brand's image without much pushback... or do it because they know they are business focused.

Poll your friends.. how many actually stay in the DTD Hotel Row?
You need to compare the right category of hotels. Disney's goal with the deluxe hotels is to maintain a 4 diamond rating. You can't compare these to the "Raddison down the street". I was saying before valet parking has a big impact on hotels needing to charge for self parking, it's just the economics of the business. How many 4 diamond hotels can you find in the area that don't charge for self parking?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
You need to compare the right category of hotels. Disney's goal with the deluxe hotels is to maintain a 4 diamond rating. You can't compare these to the "Raddison down the street". I was saying before valet parking has a big impact on hotels needing to charge for self parking, it's just the economics of the business. How many 4 diamond hotels can you find in the area that don't charge for self parking?

The holiday in. Isn't a 4star either... Which is what I was replying to... And why it was relevant, so yes I can.

And frankly disneys own actions have demonstrated all anyone needs to know about what Disney does or does not "have to do". It's all choice... And deciding to offer amenities or charge people. The comparisons are rather pointless across the board because non are direct equal alternatives and the action of one does not dictate the actions of another.

Disney can chose to continue to blaze their own path... Or continue their slide into mediocrity. There once was a time when wdw was about testing new and innovative solutions to problems.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
something i haven't seen mentioned. all the resorts people are mentioning that already charge to park. (universal resorts) many off site resorts...most offer more true value than any Disney resort at rack rate. the only exception is hotels with small/limited lots and in this case they have no choice...just my two cents i dont mind paying at universal because i know the resort is a higher caliber FOR THE PRICE. not knocking Disney just facts. Disney is so over inflated with room rates it really makes it feel like nickle and dime tactic's not (well its the norm for the business) the "business" wont charge you 195 a night to stay at a glorified motel.
 

lostpro9het

Well-Known Member
Parking for day guests-
Self Park -
30 minutes or less - FREE

Parking for AP holders & DVC members not staying at a resort-
Self Park-
2 hours or less - FREE
Looks pretty good except for this won't stop folks parking at GF/Poly/BLT/CR for fireworks shows which, according to a few posters in this monstrosity, is an issue.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
The holiday in. Isn't a 4star either... Which is what I was replying to... And why it was relevant, so yes I can.

And frankly disneys own actions have demonstrated all anyone needs to know about what Disney does or does not "have to do". It's all choice... And deciding to offer amenities or charge people. The comparisons are rather pointless across the board because non are direct equal alternatives and the action of one does not dictate the actions of another.

Disney can chose to continue to blaze their own path... Or continue their slide into mediocrity. There once was a time when wdw was about testing new and innovative solutions to problems.
Well yes, I don't think the Holiday Inn should be compared either. Personally I agree with you I think Disney should drop the 4 Diamond rating system. To me Disney Deluxe resorts are a separate class of their own and Disney's core business for them is very different than the standard. Just because they are priced into that range doesn't mean that Disney's guests expect or even want the amenities associated with that level of service. In fact with all the opposition expressed here I think it's safe to say most Disney fans don't want 4 Diamond hotels. I think it's important to recognize the economics behind it though and why if Disney continues to try to maintain this with rising prices it won't work. While this is what I would want to happen it doesn't seem to be the direction Disney is going, so i think we will eventually see the self parking charge come into the Disney resorts.
 

Biff215

Well-Known Member
Looks pretty good except for this won't stop folks parking at GF/Poly/BLT/CR for fireworks shows which, according to a few posters in this monstrosity, is an issue.
That's a good point, and a reason to require validation for any amount of time. Although what do you do with someone who is simply picking someone up? Allowing 30 minutes max for free should stop fireworks watchers, as it would be tight to get in and out within the half hour.
 

Biff215

Well-Known Member
We can compare the Disney resorts to other area resorts all day, but is there a fair comparison? I can't think of many resorts that get the number of non-guest visitors that Disney does. They are seen as attractions, and many are connected to the most visited theme parks in the world.

Universal might be the only thing close, and yet I've never had the urge to drive over there just to check things out. Yet this happens at WDW all the time. Of course Disney has created the situation, but it is complicated given the record crowds and expanded DVC presence at these resorts.

Hopefully they'll find a way to balance what's fair to both the guest and visitor.
 

rob0519

Well-Known Member
Well yes, I don't think the Holiday Inn should be compared either. Personally I agree with you I think Disney should drop the 4 Diamond rating system. To me Disney Deluxe resorts are a separate class of their own and Disney's core business for them is very different than the standard. Just because they are priced into that range doesn't mean that Disney's guests expect or even want the amenities associated with that level of service. In fact with all the opposition expressed here I think it's safe to say most Disney fans don't want 4 Diamond hotels. I think it's important to recognize the economics behind it though and why if Disney continues to try to maintain this with rising prices it won't work. While this is what I would want to happen it doesn't seem to be the direction Disney is going, so i think we will eventually see the self parking charge come into the Disney resorts.

When I pay 300-600 or so a night at the CR or GF I would like 4 Diamond service and amenities. GF comes a lot closer than CR. The main reason Disney can continue to charge those rates is exclusiveness of product. Four Seasons doesn't have a monorail or the Magic Kingdom. I can see self parking charges coming too. It's just easy money sitting on the table. People will complain and moan then pay it anyway, just like the park ticket increase. We're fortunate to be able to stay at Deluxe resorts and honestly I can't remember the last time I didn't use valet parking, so the only net increase to us would be any increase in the valet rates.

For those who scrimp and save to be able to drive to Disney with their family, this is just more money they will not have to treat themselves.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
Looks pretty good except for this won't stop folks parking at GF/Poly/BLT/CR for fireworks shows which, according to a few posters in this monstrosity, is an issue.

That's a good point, and a reason to require validation for any amount of time. Although what do you do with someone who is simply picking someone up? Allowing 30 minutes max for free should stop fireworks watchers, as it would be tight to get in and out within the half hour.
I think your going to have people visiting for the fireworks, kind of hard to stop that. If you eliminate the people parking and then spending half the day in the park I think the resorts can handle the fireworks crowds just fine.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
When I pay 300-600 or so a night at the CR or GF I would like 4 Diamond service and amenities. GF comes a lot closer than CR. The main reason Disney can continue to charge those rates is exclusiveness of product. Four Seasons doesn't have a monorail or the Magic Kingdom. I can see self parking charges coming too. It's just easy money sitting on the table. People will complain and moan then pay it anyway, just like the park ticket increase. We're fortunate to be able to stay at Deluxe resorts and honestly I can't remember the last time I didn't use valet parking, so the only net increase to us would be any increase in the valet rates.

For those who scrimp and save to be able to drive to Disney with their family, this is just more money they will not have to treat themselves.
You are probably the exception not the norm in the Disney deluxe resorts. Most guests visiting those resorts don't want valet parking, bell services, room service and all the other various amenities required to maintain that 4 diamond rating.

By the way one of the things you mentioned as a benefit the AAA inspectors took points off for. GF lost points due to it's close proximity to the monorail. It's considered mass transit and apparently it isn't upscale to have your resort near that.
 

CdnDznyLuvr

Active Member
Just because you are staying at one resort, doesn't mean you are entitled to all the amenities available at another resort, including their parking lot. Disney offers free transportation anywhere on Disney property - yes it may take you longer to get there but it's free. If you just want the convenience of parking at a monorail resort to be closer to the Magic Kingdom (Or Boardwalk/yacht & beach for Epcot), then you should have to pay for that convenience plain and simple.
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom