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Disney Springs tenant watch

Mouse Detective

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So im here at DTD right now and I can 100% understand why Raglan's parent company wants another spot in Disney Springs. If you take the new pathway that goes by The Hangar and The Boathouse, you pretty much miss out on the entire Raglan complex.
You miss it now because Raglan is off by itself as a cul-de-sac in a construction area. Once the complex is done, walking by Raglan would take you into the Town Center portion of Disney Springs. And those walking by the springs themselves would pass by Raglan if they choose to not use the route by The Boathouse.
 

Next Big Thing

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You miss it now because Raglan is off by itself as a cul-de-sac in a construction area. Once the complex is done, walking by Raglan would take you into the Town Center portion of Disney Springs. And those walking by the springs themselves would pass by Raglan if they choose to not use the route by The Boathouse.
I was talking about coming from the other direction. Either way, the point is, without this new restaurant, you'd miss out totally on Raglan coming from the West Side if you go through the new pathway.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Premium Member
The lineup seems solid (at least the dining lineup so far). It's yet to be seen if the demand can sustain all of these places together. Locals will have to play a big part in keeping the vendors happy. If the locals don't show and it's a Tuesday in November when there isn't a large convention in town I'm not sure the tourist crowd will be enough to keep all these places filled. They will also need to balance the availability between tourists and locals at busy times. If the restaurants all fill up with ADRs booked 180 days in advance people will be turned off. I think they will need to at least hold some tables back for walk ins. I'm pretty sure the existing DTD restaurants already did this.
I think you wrapped up all my thoughts into one nice post. I do wonder about locals continuing to come to Disney Springs to spend that type of money at all those fine dining establishments. Now sitting at the bar like they did at the Adventurers Club, that I can see.

The Greater Orlando area has many great restaurants not linked to theme parks that locals gravitate to. I am cautiously awaiting to see how this upscale build pans out after they are all up and operating past the opening fanfare. Neither the Disney Guest or the Locals median household income levels demonstrate a need for this many upscale restaurants, let alone this many steak houses. We can all likely agree they won't be one dining credit, the reason why Raglan, RainForest and TRex do so well. No matter how much they build DTD area is still a problem to reach with the current transportation Disney provides to that area. It is tedious at best.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I think you wrapped up all my thoughts into one nice post. I do wonder about locals continuing to come to Disney Springs to spend that type of money at all those fine dining establishments. Now sitting at the bar like they did at the Adventurers Club, that I can see.

The Greater Orlando area has many great restaurants not linked to theme parks that locals gravitate to. I am cautiously awaiting to see how this upscale build pans out after they are all up and operating past the opening fanfare. Neither the Disney Guest or the Locals median household income levels demonstrate a need for this many upscale restaurants, let alone this many steak houses. We can all likely agree they won't be one dining credit, the reason why Raglan, RainForest and TRex do so well. No matter how much they build DTD area is still a problem to reach with the current transportation Disney provides to that area. It is tedious at best.
Good points. The dining plan is a whole other mess. How many of these places will accept DDP? If they don't will tourists shun them? If so will that hurt them enough to go under? It should be interesting to watch unfold.
 

71jason

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Original Poster
I really feel like these restaurants are going to cater to conventioneers and locals most. Tourists will obviously play a decent role, but I also think they want to keep these places fairly classy and they want to avoid the DDP as much as possible.
I think more convention-goers than locals, although perhaps counting on a secondary "after-hours" market off CMs over 21. Bluntly, most locals who can afford these places are far more inclined to go to Sand Lake Road or Millenia. Due to traffic and the perceived crowd (it's not like PI had strollers in the bars--it was enough you couldn't walk to the bar without getting hit by one).

That said, I-Drive is stepping up its game, and Sand Lake isn't really going anywhere. It's a highly competitive market for convention goers and while DS will have the Disney name and buses back to resorts at 2:00 a.m., I agree these places will have to maintain the standards they would be expected to uphold in NYC or Las Vegas.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
A Permit was filed today for Disney Springs with an owner of "Vivoli Orlando,LLC". The location is CO6.2. I don't have this exact number on my map, but CO6 is attached to Raglan Road.
 
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