Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019

[Gringrinngghost]

And that threshold is based on what? That's completely unrealistic imo. That's even quicker than most fixed rides... let alone rides that require ems evacs.

People here are losing their **** over 1-3 hours. Id wager that order of magnitude is well within their operational models.

I only agree with the statement you quoted for the middle of the summer day, because of the threat of hyperthermia

 

[HoldenC]

If you have people stranded in these things for 3+ hours in the middle of the Florida summer sun.........The ER crews had better be prepared to remove some of the passengers with a spatula.

It still blows my mind that Disney announced they were going to put people in fully enclosed metal and glass boxes hanging high off the ground and exposed to full force of the Florida sun and with no air conditioning, but that they had included “window slits” for air circulation.

And a lot of the pixie dusters said “Sounds good! Don’t see any potential problem with that!”

It's so clear you haven't ridden this system yet. Last week when it was approaching 100 degrees nobody died. Give it a rest

 

[Gringrinngghost]

The local news media will go out of their way to paint Disney as evil. So take everything they say either a grain of salt.

Why would they need to do that, when all it takes is an article Disney doesn’t like to pull their press access. Go ask some other sites about that.

 

[SplashJacket]

disney should just shut this down and make walkways. People could use the extra exercise and would walkways would eliminate a lot of headaches the gondola will end up providing

There are already efficient walkways to get from Epcot to Hollywood Studios. In fact, you can walk there faster than the Skyliner can take you.

 

[Jambo Joe]

Not even the first week of operation and there's already been a crash, looks like Disney is just now starting evacuating the cabins one by one just 90 minutes after the initial shutdown. Hope Disney can get a refund on this absurd investment

I imagine this site will be flooded with dopey comments like this and I haven’t been disappointed.

 

[flynnibus]

I'd like to see the quote of what was asked and said, please.

Technically, and I'm not saying this to protect Disney, if by 'collision' you mean two gondolas banging into each other at speed, that seems to not have happened. A few gondolas were squeezed and compressed... certainly not a good thing, but not a collision. If a bulldozer started to push a car and the car was against a wall and got slightly crushed, I don't think anyone would call that a collision.

No one is going to get whiplash from what happened at the Riviera.

Collision is accurate. They didn't just bump and lean into each other... they smacked hard enough to break the glass panel and foul its attachment.

A fouling that resulted in a multiple hour shutdown while in guest operation. There is no downplaying that anything less than an "incident"

 

[Rich T]

And that threshold is based on what? That's completely unrealistic imo. That's even quicker than most fixed rides... let alone rides that require ems evacs.

People here are losing their **** over 1-3 hours. Id wager that order of magnitude is well within their operational models.

I don’t think anyone expected this kind of lengthy, problematic and headline-news-grabbing evacuation a week after the system’s public opening. Three cheers to all the rescuers involved.

 

[flynnibus]

If you have people stranded in these things for 3+ hours in the middle of the Florida summer sun.........The ER crews had better be prepared to remove some of the passengers with a spatula

How many were removed by spatula from the flight of passage extended queues?

 

[Mark IV Fan]

And that threshold is based on what? That's completely unrealistic imo. That's even quicker than most fixed rides... let alone rides that require ems evacs.

People here are losing their **** over 1-3 hours. Id wager that order of magnitude is well within their operational models.

Yeah because being stuck in an un air conditioned glass and metal box high off the ground in the middle of the Florida summer afternoon sun for 1-3 hours is exactly the same as being stuck in a ride in an air conditioned building.

Have you ever read stories about what happens to pets and children when they’re left in cars on hit summer days? Same principle my friend.

Let me guess.....Disney has assured us they’ll get the kinks worked out and this will never happen in the middle of the summer heat. So there’s no reason to worry.

 

[HoldenC]

Why would they need to do that, when all it takes is an article Disney doesn’t like to pull their press access. Go ask some other sites about that.

That's what they deserve

 

[lazyboy97o]

In Florida the DOA (Department of AGRICULTURE) handles amusement park regulation and Florida exempts theme parks with 1000 or more employees from oversight. So unless there was any criminality, this one is all on TWDC.

I have to double check, but I believe aerial ropeways get lumped in with elevators, at least within the district.

The Department of Agriculture being in charge of rides is not weird or unique to Florida. It dates back to rides at fairs, which were historically oriented around agriculture.

 

[flynnibus]

Yeah because being stuck in an un air conditioned glass and metal box high off the ground in the middle of the Florida summer afternoon sun for 1-3 hours is exactly the same as being stuck in a ride in an air conditioned building.

Have you ever read stories about what happens to pets and children when they’re left in cars on hit summer days? Same principle my friend.

Let me guess.....Disney has assured us they’ll get the kinks worked out and this will never happen in the middle of the summer heat. So there’s no reason to worry.

It's not the same as being in a car... but the ignorant want to keep returning to that.

Two, I guess you've never seen an outdoor roller coaster? Not all rides are indoors

 

[larryz]

Not sure if this has been covered, this thread is quite long, but local news is reporting Disney has denied any collision of any cabins. How?

 

[Rich T]

disney should just shut this down and make walkways. People could use the extra exercise and would walkways would eliminate a lot of headaches the gondola will end up providing

Add in covered moving sidewalks, and I’d back that plan. Time is expensive at WDW.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

That's what they deserve

You must be fun at parties.

I see we have some for Censorship here.

 

[Mark IV Fan]

Space Mountain gets evacuated sometimes twice day, and certainly in the first day or two it was open. These things happen. Taking the Skyliner is still safer than driving to work in the morning.

Nice strawmen there.
When people get stuck on Space Mountain, they’re in an air conditioned building where cast members can get to their cars and walk them off the ride.
When the skyliner goes down people are hanging high off the ground in an un air conditioned glass and metal box possibly exposed to the full force of the Florida sun with no easy way to get off.
Again, slight difference.

 

[Rich T]

Quote for some official of Disney ever saying something like that?

Fair ‘nuff. Gag deleted.

 

[Mark IV Fan]

It's not the same as being in a car... but the ignorant want to keep returning to that.

Two, I guess you've never seen an outdoor roller coaster? Not all rides are indoors

Why is it not the same? Because Disney says it isn’t? If the air flow is dependent on movement and the car isn’t moving......Then guess what? It’s heating up. Perhaps you’d be so brave to spend 3 hours in one on a 100 degree day to prove why it’s no big deal. Views always nice from the cheap seats isn’t it?
Yeah and outdoor roller coasters have ways to get people off the ride so they’re not sitting in the sun for 3 hours......Which is stlll a lot cooler than being in an enclosed metal and glass box on a hot day.

 

[Ponderer]

disney should just shut this down and make walkways. People could use the extra exercise and would walkways would eliminate a lot of headaches the gondola will end up providing

Most people visiting the parks get 5-10+ miles a day as is. I get what you're saying but that's not remotely viable. (The covered moving walkway idea is intriguing, but if we're gonna do that, just go full peoplemover.)

 

[skyphotographer]

Are all the Skyliner lines back up and running today? That will say a lot for how Disney is looking at this.