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Disney road paves way to skip I-4, enter park

dflye

New Member
peter11435 said:
You must be slightly mistaken. The new Disney road doesn't go RIGHT behing everest. It travels along the southern border of Coronado Springs and then turns north and head towards the water treatment plant. It really doesnt get any closer to Everest than the Coronado Springs.
Well, if someone has a recent copy of the Cast Atlas scanned in (assuming it is still produced in a fashion that has an accurate property-wide map), maybe they could doodle in where the new road(s) are crossing through property? :lookaroun

Neither the snippet from the Orlando Sentinel nor the Florida DOT map has enough detail to resolve the speculation on where exactly the pavement lies.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
dflye said:
Well, if someone has a recent copy of the Cast Atlas scanned in (assuming it is still produced in a fashion that has an accurate property-wide map), maybe they could doodle in where the new road(s) are crossing through property? :lookaroun

Neither the snippet from the Orlando Sentinel nor the Florida DOT map has enough detail to resolve the speculation on where exactly the pavement lies.
This map shows the exact location of Disney's new road. You cane see where it connects to Buena Vista Drive and follows the South side of Coronado Springs. The Purple circle is exactly where E:E is.
map2234.JPG
 

CapnStinxy

Member
The private road largely escaped the notice of Orange County officials, including Harrison, Mayor Rich Crotty and those at MetroPlan Orlando, the region's road-planning agency. Even some officials at the turnpike enterprise, which is building the interchange, said they did not know Disney planned the road as a major new entrance.

What a load of manure. The "Reedy Creek Road" interchange, as the "Florida's Turnpike Enterprise" labels it on their maps, has high-speed directional ramps in the southbound direction. That's about a $20 million interchange, with absolutely nothing else in the area for it to serve. There's no other reason for such overbuilding other than to serve as a high-volume secondary entrance to WDW.

My guess is this sudden protestation of "I have no knowledge" is to forestall the certain criticsm that, when cities all over Florida are begging and scraping for a few nickels for their road projects, there is largess for a large and profitable company.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
CapnStinxy said:
What a load of manure. The "Reedy Creek Road" interchange, as the "Florida's Turnpike Enterprise" labels it on their maps, has high-speed directional ramps in the southbound direction. That's about a $20 million interchange, with absolutely nothing else in the area for it to serve. There's no other reason for such overbuilding other than to serve as a high-volume secondary entrance to WDW.

My guess is this sudden protestation of "I have no knowledge" is to forestall the certain criticsm that, when cities all over Florida are begging and scraping for a few nickels for their road projects, there is largess for a large and profitable company.

For anyone who is interested. Below is the plan for what the toll road 429 intersection with Disney's road will look like.
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CTXRover

Well-Known Member
Dr Albert Falls said:
I've seen the road. It will run RIGHT behind Expedition Everest. Unfortunately--- unlike Disneyland's Matterhorn that can be seen from all directions as you approach the park--- Everest is only a HALF mountain (the backside is a plain industrial warehouse). People driving on this new road will likely view quite an eyesore as they come and go from the property.

FYI--- The road will be no different than World Drive, Epcot Center Blvd, Hotel Plaza Blvd, or Osceola Parkway--- just another access road that anyone can use (A "private" road, versus "public", means the landowner pays for maintainance, instead of taxpayers)

You said you've seen the road, but have you walked down the construction of the road or are you just guessing that you can see Everest from it? 'm guessing there are two main ways that guests could see the backside from the road, which is possible given I don't know the angle the road will be to Everest's backside. One would be if the road was close enough to see through the trees and see the backstage areas of Everest, similar to seeing the backside of the World Showcase buildings from the road, which I doubt is the case. The second would be if the road is elevated or built high enough to see above the tree-lines as you approach the property. My guess is that is probably not the case either. The top 60+ feet of Everest's main peak is complete all the way around, which is likely the most, if any, guests will see of Everest from this road.
 

Dr Albert Falls

New Member
The interchange is not built with tax dollars, per se. Tolls technically fund the entire project (but until they stop building new toll roads in Central Florida, there is no chance they'll ever reduce or eliminate tolls)

Although it appears that the exit is built exclusively for Disney, that will NOT be the case in the next 10-20 years. One of the nation's most ambitious master-planned communities, Horizon West, is already taking shape in that area. Realizing that all those frost-bitten orange groves were destined for urban sprawl, planners implemented strict development guidelines for the area. The vacant land off the new 429 tollway will soon become one of the most populated areas of Central Florida, but hopefully without the wasteland of strip malls and asphalt and subdivisions found elsewhere in the area.

Check out this website for more info:

http://www.terrain.org/unsprawl/14/
 

dflye

New Member
peter11435 said:
This map shows the exact location of Disney's new road. You cane see where it connects to Buena Vista Drive and follows the South side of Coronado Springs. The Purple circle is exactly where E:E is.
Super-uber detailed map
Wow. :eek:

Ok, WOW. :eek: :eek:

Somebody out there has access to some seriously detailed planning maps, or DeLorme XMap, or some other extremely detailed mapping sources, as I don't think you named those various ponds yourself! :lol:

Thanks a bunch for posting the definitive answer to this thread as to where the pavement hits the property! :sohappy:

That appears to leave a lot of real estate between the eastern end of AK and the nearby resort for future development. :lookaroun
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
dflye said:
That appears to leave a lot of real estate between the eastern end of AK and the nearby resort for future development. :lookaroun

There is tons of available land all over WDW. However much of it is swamp land and would be very difficult to build on.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
disneylands said:
I saw that they donated 200 acres. Who got the land, the state? And lastly (sort of a dumb question) how many acres are in a mile?
The land went to be used for the road way. Thus in this case it went to the state in the sense that it was used for the construction of the road. Most of the road will be operated by the Florida Turnpike (toll road 429 not Disney's new road).

As for the mile question, yes it kind of is a stupid question, jk :lol: . A mile measures length while an acre is a measure of area. Thus you can't really directly compare the two. As I assume you know a mile is equal to 5280 feet, while an acre equals 43560 square feet, or about 209 feet by 209 feet.
 

disneylands

Account Suspended
peter11435 said:
The land went to be used for the road way. Thus in this case it went to the state in the sense that it was used for the construction of the road. Most of the road will be operated by the Florida Turnpike (toll road 429 not Disney's new road).

As for the mile question, yes it kind of is a stupid question, jk :lol: . A mile measures lenght while an acre is a measure of area. Thus you can't really directly compare the two. As I assume you know a mile is equal to 5280 feet, while an acre equals 43560 square feet.

thanks, i told you that was a stupid question!!!:p
 

WDWCP

New Member
peter11435 said:
The land went to be used for the road way. Thus in this case it went to the state in the sense that it was used for the construction of the road. Most of the road will be operated by the Florida Turnpike (toll road 429 not Disney's new road).

As for the mile question, yes it kind of is a stupid question, jk :lol: . A mile measures length while an acre is a measure of area. Thus you can't really directly compare the two. As I assume you know a mile is equal to 5280 feet, while an acre equals 43560 square feet, or about 209 feet by 209 feet.

Exactly, the mileage all depends on how wide a strip of land was donated. The more narrow the strip, the more linear distance it covers... The wider the strip, the less liner distance is covered with 200 acres...
 

maxime29

Premium Member
How will this affect traffic going to and from the airport? I know very little in regards to the roads other than when we prepare to travel. I do know I4 is a road we travel on down there.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
maxime29 said:
How will this affect traffic going to and from the airport? I know very little in regards to the roads other than when we prepare to travel. I do know I4 is a road we travel on down there.
It should slightly decrease traffic on I4.
 

Lokheed

Well-Known Member
maxime29 said:
How will this affect traffic going to and from the airport? I know very little in regards to the roads other than when we prepare to travel. I do know I4 is a road we travel on down there.

I wouldn't think it would effect airport traffic at all. The airport is to the east of Disney, and this access road is on the west. It would make for faster access if you are coming from Tampa (I-4 eastbound to 429 northbound), or if you were coming from the northwest (Florida's Turnpike southbound to 429 southbound). But I can't imagine any route to or from OIA that would make use of this new access road.
 

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