Animaniac93-98
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Well I think beds are kind of an important part of a luxury hotel room. Just my opinion of course.
So then they should have known better.
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Well I think beds are kind of an important part of a luxury hotel room. Just my opinion of course.
So then they should have known better.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
It would depend on the execution. I would agree that it almost certainly would lower the appeal. But it wouldn’t make the new resort a value resort or part of a value resort simply because of proximity to a value resort.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Just to clarify I’m not referring to previous incidents of improperly installed beds.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I didn’t say it was part of CBR. I said it was part of a moderate resort complex. And it is.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Agreed. The exterior color choice could have been better. I think there’s several directions they could have taken it that would have achieved better results.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Nope.
It’s adjacent to a moderate resort complex. It is not part of a moderate resort complex.
The Grand Floridan is adjacent to the Magic Kingdom. That doesn’t make it part of a theme park.
Prince-1
Well-Known Member
All true points and the issues with the beds should have been caught before they opened but still calling the hotel a dump is asinine.
SoFloMagic
Well-Known Member
Grand floridian. Yacht club. Saratoga. Just about any moderate...
Not bad resorts, not poorly-themed, but they are all just themed to a resort in that location/style. I don't see how riviera is less-themed than any of them. I think it looks nice.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Cutesy words repeatedly used to describe Disney's work even when it is not an appropriate descriptor. Disney today loves to describe everything as a detail but a detail is something small, little noticed that reinforces the story. Small ornaments are not details if they are just cute bits of ornament that do not further the story and large decorative elements are not details.Could you please explain what you mean by ‘Disneyism’? That’s a sincere request as I’m unsure what you mean
Also, perhaps my description isn’t the best, but it’s just my opinion on the resort, as I said. Maybe the theme is very vague in reality, but again, as I’ve stated, my own thought is that they’ve focused on instilling something through the artwork and details.
It seems as though people don’t let people have other opinions here?
I don't care if you like it. My problem is characterizing it as something it is not and using terms out of context to associate it with other, more successful works. The resort is not detailed and you just confirmed that it is not. What you are calling out as details you say do not reinforce the stories that Disney claims they are communicating and say they reinforce a concept you describe as "very vague" and "something."
It raises serious questions about the construction of other walls and the anchoring of other furniture and fixtures. Are the TVs properly anchored? How about grab bars in the accessible rooms?
Creathir
Well-Known Member
Exactly.
The nicest resort on property (GF) sits directly across the street from a government owned facility...
Does that make it the resort equivalent of a tattoo parlor?
Wilderness Lodge is adjacent (thru the woods) to an RV park... does that make it part of said facility?
This is such a ridiculous argument... folks need to get over it, CBR is forever divided, forever changed. The old wing isn’t coming back, this resort is here to stay until 2070. Deal with it.
nicb88
Well-Known Member
I think you know exactly what I’m trying to convey but you’re just being awkward in order to prove your own point. Replace ‘detail’ in my previous posts with ‘points of interest’ when you read what I wrote, if it suits you better. For me, they are details, whether the overarching theme is vague, subtle or in your face. Furthermore, I did not confirm it was vague, I said maybe it is - i.e. for others. I then stated my own view on the matter.
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carolina_yankee
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BLT opening - scuffed furniture, no sink in studio bathrooms, and no locks on studio bathroom doors.
Aulani offering - grossly underestimated member fees leading to halted sales, staff terminations, and the President of DVC leaving to “pursue other opportunities” working for Wal-Mart. Also led to the reconfiguring of the position to VP.
PVB opening - plumbing drainage issue so you stand in the water used for the previous person’s shower. And let’s not overlook the systemic failure of an all-studio resort or high-point-cost bungalows skewing demand for studios.
Riviera - crappy install of a piece of furniture. Black eye? Yes, but easily fixed and doesn’t rise to the level of problems of some other DVCs. In DVC history, Riviera is having a pretty smooth opening.
The arguments over design/decor doesn’t amount to a hill of beans if somebody visiting likes it (or doesn’t). Folks on a major DVC board are warming up to it after staying there. Riviera will be fine. People love/hate SSR, too. It’s just not a productive discussion.
Aulani offering - grossly underestimated member fees leading to halted sales, staff terminations, and the President of DVC leaving to “pursue other opportunities” working for Wal-Mart. Also led to the reconfiguring of the position to VP.
PVB opening - plumbing drainage issue so you stand in the water used for the previous person’s shower. And let’s not overlook the systemic failure of an all-studio resort or high-point-cost bungalows skewing demand for studios.
Riviera - crappy install of a piece of furniture. Black eye? Yes, but easily fixed and doesn’t rise to the level of problems of some other DVCs. In DVC history, Riviera is having a pretty smooth opening.
The arguments over design/decor doesn’t amount to a hill of beans if somebody visiting likes it (or doesn’t). Folks on a major DVC board are warming up to it after staying there. Riviera will be fine. People love/hate SSR, too. It’s just not a productive discussion.
lazyboy97o
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No, I do not not know what you mean and it is exactly the problem with terms like "detail" and "subtle" being used to describe just about anything in a themed design. "Point of interest" is a much better term that provides a far more accurate description of the elements you highlight. The art can be interesting stand alone pieces but it makes no sense to claim they are details that reinforce something you can't identify.
You can't even state with certainty if the theme is vague. How is that not vague? The story seen in the design should match the story Disney says they are conveying, it is that simple.
I, often accused as a pixie duster, want to go on record: I am not defending Riviera in any way.
In fact, I mocked their original room design that was all white. They have since not decided to go with a winter wonderland theme, but what they did go with is... not special.
In fact, I mocked their original room design that was all white. They have since not decided to go with a winter wonderland theme, but what they did go with is... not special.
easyrowrdw
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I'd take a free night! I'm not sure about spending points there yet, though.
I am interested in how distinct Riviera feels from CBR. I rode through the Skyliner on opening day, but didn't have time to get out and walk around. The resorts are pretty close, but obviously styled very differently. Do the grounds feel expansive or is everything close together? I guess I'm thinking of the Seven Seas hotels. Even though you can see the other resorts they all feel clearly separate.
nickys
Premium Member
I think photos show it was the lack of appropriate fixing to the wall, not the construction of the wall, that was the problem? At least for the single Murphy bed, which was the one that fell on the lady.
As for whatever has sparked the “do not use the wall bed” - I don’t know if that is a precaution or if another issue was discovered.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
No. It’s part of the monorail resort complex.
Just like the Y&B and Boardwalk are part of the same complex.
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xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Of course it’s not productive. Do you honestly think anyone here believes they are gonna tear down the resort because we don’t like it? It’s a discussion board though, and we are discussing the resort. Like you said, it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans though. DVC is bullet proof, as I’ve said multiple times.
You want to buy here? Go ahead. Plenty of people already are. I’m sure they are quite proud to add the Riviera to their DVC portfolios.
nickys
Premium Member
In that case AKL and the All Stars are part of the same complex. Is that a value resort complex?
The resorts are grouped by area, certainly. And AKL, Coronado and the All Stars are the WDW Animal Kingdom Area resorts.
A complex has a different meaning to many. I think that’s where your views differ from most other people’s.
I would absolutely say the Yacht and Beach Club resorts are a complex. All facilities are available to guests of both resorts. But the Boardwalk guests cannot use the Y&B Resort facilities (gym, pool) and is therefore not part of the same complex.
Same for Fort Wilderness and Wilderness Lodge. Or indeed the Poly and GF.
But of course lines get blurred. Contemporary and Bay Lake are arguably part of the same complex, and yet pool sharing is a one-way street in this case.