News Disney Riviera Resort announced

[xdan0920]

The point is that some people do like it. Just because you do not doesn’t no one else does. Its not a dump and plenty of people that have actually been there have greatly enjoyed it. There’s nothing wrong with disliking the resort. As you said different strokes. There are plenty of other options at WDW if you dislike this property and for some people this will be there property of choice.

It’s the cheapest, worst designed, least themed of any Disney resort outside the All Stars. It’s location is part of a moderate resort complex. It’s construction is objectively flawed and dangerous. There isn’t much to like here.

 

[nicb88]

What did I say that was untrue or belittling?

You are purposely being forceful with your opinions and language in a way that shows no respect for people with differing viewpoints to your own.

 

[nicb88]

The beds are literally falling on guests. What would you call it?

An unfortunate problem to be rectified in due course. That does not make it a ‘dump’.

 

[peter11435]

The beds are literally falling on guests. What would you call it?

As far as I’m aware we know of exactly one bed that fell and Disney is quickly working to correct the problem. Was it bad? Yes. Should it have happened, No. Does it mean the resort is a dump? Absolutely not. We also don’t know details about exactly how the installation failure came to be. I think you’d be surprised if you heard some of the stories of previous resort openings. A bed falling off the wall is nothing compared to some of the things that have happened.

 

[peter11435]

It’s the cheapest, worst designed, least themed of any Disney resort outside the All Stars. It’s location is part of a moderate resort complex. It’s construction is objectively flawed and dangerous. There isn’t much to like here.

There’s a lot of opinion in this post. Hopefully you realize that. If not Bingbong can help you sort out those facts and opinions.

It’s location is adjacent to a moderate resort. It is not part of a moderate resort.

They are actively remedying the issue with the bed installation. I think it’s a bit premature based on what little information we have about a single incident to imply that the entire resorts construction is dangerous.

 

[xdan0920]

As far as I’m aware we know of exactly one bed that fell and Disney is quickly working to correct the problem. Was it bad? Yes. Should it have happened, No. Does it mean the resort is a dump? Absolutely not. We also don’t know details about exactly how the installation failure came to be. I think you’d be surprised if you heard some of the stories of previous resort openings. A bed falling off the wall is nothing compared to some of the things that have happened.

Perhaps I would be surprised. Try me.

You’ve long been a defender of this resort. I’ve long been a detractor. The opening, the failures, the design, it’s all confirmed my stance. Couple that with first hand reports from trusted friends and family, and fellow DVC members and I am fully confident in my opinion of this resort. It’s as blatant a cash grab as I have ever seen.

However....

It doesn’t matter what I, or my friends and family think. The points are selling and DVC remains bullet proof.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I didn’t say it was unique and it certainly isn’t, I’m sure, if you go look at every other hotel in the world. The style is subtle, modern and I feel like the differences are in the details and the artwork. I’m presuming their vision was as though it were a modern Riviera hotel, but as you say it takes in other influences also. It isn’t entirely architecturally based on Walt’s travels, but much of that is in the artwork and artefacts that are placed around the grounds, that do for the most part follow specific artistic movements.

It definitely isn’t the same as any of the other Disney resorts, so it offers something different for Disney/DVC guests.

I will add, that these are my opinions and not going off what Disney has said. So if I’ve said it’s not Art Deco, it’s because I don’t think it is. Others may disagree.

You keep invoking Disneyisms that don’t match what you are describing. The design is not subtle especially when being generically contemporary is a common criticism. Large decorative pieces aren’t details, especially when they don’t match the stated story and instead you must make one up to make it work.

As far as I’m aware we know of exactly one bed that fell and Disney is quickly working to correct the problem. Was it bad? Yes. Should it have happened, No. Does it mean the resort is a dump? Absolutely not. We also don’t know details about exactly how the installation failure came to be. I think you’d be surprised if you heard some of the stories of previous resort openings. A bed falling off the wall is nothing compared to some of the things that have happened.

The nature of the failure is such that it is a big problem. Details will just make it worse, not better.

 

[xdan0920]

There’s a lot of opinion in this post. Hopefully you realize that. If not Bingbong can help you sort out those facts and opinions.

It’s location is adjacent to a moderate resort. It is not part of a moderate resort.

They are actively remedying the issue with the bed installation. I think it’s a bit premature based on what little information we have about a single incident to imply that the entire resorts construction is dangerous.

It’s part of a moderate resort complex. That’s not opinion. It’s a fact. The beds ARE dangerous. Also a fact.

I guess you could say calling it the least themed is opinion? I don’t see how it can be refuted though.

 

[Prince-1]

The beds are literally falling on guests. What would you call it?

A simple issue that need fixing. And like I said, oh brother lol.

 

[RobWDW1971]

There’s a lot of opinion in this post. Hopefully you realize that. If not Bingbong can help you sort out those facts and opinions.

What I love about these boards is that you can say the most outrageous, over the top, positive comment about something Disney does and nobody will ever the pull the “that’s just your opinion!” card. It’s just fun to watch.

 

[lazyboy97o]

A simple issue that need fixing. And like I said, oh brother lol.

The construction of a wall is not a simple issue. Better drywall anchors is not an appropriate solution.

 

[Prince-1]

The construction of a wall is not a simple issue. Better drywall anchors is not an appropriate solution.

How many actual murphy beds fell?

The answer as far as I can is one. And they are taking the issue seriously by letting guests know that they are temporarily out of order. Now this is an unfortunate issue but a fixable issue nonetheless. And labeling the whole hotel a dump for said issue is just ignorant and laughable.

 

[lazyboy97o]

How many actual murphy beds fell?

The answer as far as I can is one. And they are taking the issue seriously by letting guests know that they are temporarily out of order. Now this is an unfortunate issue but a fixable issue nonetheless. And labeling the whole hotel a dump for said issue is just ignorant and laughable.

If you are ever injured due to poor construction I’ll be sure to remind you that it’s not a big deal.

Again, these beds should not have been using drywall anchors. The very wall to which they are attached is problematic. What other fixtures were not properly secured?

 

[nicb88]

You keep invoking Disneyisms that don’t match what you are describing. The design is not subtle especially when being generically contemporary is a common criticism. Large decorative pieces aren’t details, especially when they don’t match the stated story and instead you must make one up to make it work.


The nature of the failure is such that it is a big problem. Details will just make it worse, not better.

Could you please explain what you mean by ‘Disneyism’? That’s a sincere request as I’m unsure what you mean

Also, perhaps my description isn’t the best, but it’s just my opinion on the resort, as I said. Maybe the theme is very vague in reality, but again, as I’ve stated, my own thought is that they’ve focused on instilling something through the artwork and details.

It seems as though people don’t let people have other opinions here?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

If you are ever injured due to poor construction I’ll be sure to remind you that it’s not a big deal.

The hotel is literally not built properly and the fans are still defending it.

This is a new low even for them.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It seems as though people don’t let people have other opinions here?

You are free to have an opinion.

You are not free from any criticism of said opinion.

 

[peter11435]

It’s part of a moderate resort complex. That’s not opinion. It’s a fact. The beds ARE dangerous. Also a fact.

I guess you could say calling it the least themed is opinion? I don’t see how it can be refuted though.

It is not part of CBR. It’s adjacent to CBR. So it is not part of a moderate resort complex. It is it’s own resort.

The beds or at least some of them were dangerous. Which is why they are fixing them. It in itself is not indicative of other dangers at the resort.

 

[nicb88]

You are free to have an opinion.

You are not free from any criticism of said opinion.

Im happy to discuss and debate, but this seems to be ‘you’re wrong’, rather than ‘I understand your point of view, however I see it this way...’

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It is not part of CBR. It’s adjacent to CBR. So it is not part of a moderate resort complex. It is it’s own resort.

If Disney tore down All-Star Music and built a new luxury property sandwiched between Movies and Sports, would that not diminish the status and appeal of the property?

The hotel is built on the site of a former wing of Caribbean Beach. It's as close to being in Caribbean Beach as a new build could be while not adding extra floors onto an existing building.

 

[peter11435]

The hotel is literally not built properly and the fans are still defending it.

This is a new low even for them.

If a failure like the bed means that the hotel was not built properly in your opinion, then I can assure you that nothing was built properly at WDW.

I’m not defending them. Someone made a huge mistake. But there have been similar and worse occurrences in previous park and resort builds.