Beholder
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I'm dating myself somewhat here, but I used to play a Star Wars/LEGO game on my 1st gen psp. It was a great game, and I really dig the homage/parody that LEGO does do well.
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Disney Playing catch up with Universal... Potter Disney's biggest mistake in 20 years...
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I'm dating myself somewhat here, but I used to play a Star Wars/LEGO game on my 1st gen psp. It was a great game, and I really dig the homage/parody that LEGO does do well.
JediMasterMatt
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You are very correct that attendance isn't "the problem" for Iger; but, it is THE PROBLEM with TDO. Attendance has been consistantly rising while TDO does next to nothing at the resort in terms of refreshing/adding/or expanding. Attendance is most definately the problem for all of us fans of Disney Parks. TDO has seen that they can not make signficant investment (and actually reduce show quality and services) and get away with it because the turnstiles are still spinning. The more attendance has increased, the more emboldened TDO has become. Attendance has become such a problem with TDO, that they whole MM+ system was created as as way to continue along the pattern of status quo in terms of reinvestment and come up with a way provide ways to maximize the amount of tourist dollar spent while providing some preceived value to the customer in the form of FP+ in its efforts to steer people away from popular attractions to ones that are less so.
So, in my opinion it isn't fair to say WDW doesn't have an attendance problem when in fact, it's the utter lack of a true attendance problem that is the actual problem and now the parks are really faced with capacity issues caused by the increased attendance.
Unfortunately, we (all of us that love Disney Parks) are part of the problem. We keep going back.
The only real hope for WDW at this point is for them to get hurt in the place they are most vunerable, and it's not gate attendance at the parks - it's hotel occupancy at WDW's resorts.
Let's face it, the majority of tourists in the Orlando area are still going to account for a turnstile spin at one of the WDW gates. Where TDO is most vunerable is if the resorts stop filling up. They are significant portion of the money making engine for TDO and more importantly - a huge liability if they aren't being filled.
For WDW to see siginficant improvment in the near future, it will take empty hotels on Disney property to get the Weatherman's minions to get his attention on his throne.
Hopefully, those of us that love what WDW was and want it to be in the future will look very strongly at the value proposition that Universal has in their resorts and start booking nights down I-4. The real war in Orlando is not over who's visting whom during the day, it's where you are sleeping at night. Right now, sleeping with the Mouse is more like sleeping with a rat.
Tony Perkis
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First generation PSP isn't dating anything.
EpcoTim
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He's been single since that ugly break up with the sega game gear.
Tony Perkis
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Does he now just play with his Wii?
EpcoTim
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It's his wii and he can wash it as much as he wants.
flyerjab
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With executives the likes of Iger, Rasulo, Staggs, and so on, many are typically of the "alpha male/female" caliber of individual. Accompanied with this, I have found, is a staggering amount of pride in one's own accomplishments.
My question is regarding said pride. Does someone like Iger have pride that is only concerned with stock price, valuation of the company, quarterly earnings, park attendance and the like? Or does it spread to things like what one "reads in the papers", meaning, does Iger care that Universal in Orlando is killing his little resort destination in the headlines at the current time? Seriously, this opening of Diagon Alley is stealing the spotlight from his Orlando destination right now like it hasn't for quite some time. Does anyone think he cares? Or does he look at his attendance numbers and shrug it off.
I, for one, am really hoping this stings him a bit. Right now, Universal is being touted as crafting the newest and best immersive land, having spared no expense, generating new and daring rides that are pushing the technological envelope within relatively reasonable project timelines. They are being lauded as leading the themepark business in terms of innovation and immersiveness. Universal is being talked about like WDW always has been. I truly hope that Iger has more pride than he knows what to do with.
My question is regarding said pride. Does someone like Iger have pride that is only concerned with stock price, valuation of the company, quarterly earnings, park attendance and the like? Or does it spread to things like what one "reads in the papers", meaning, does Iger care that Universal in Orlando is killing his little resort destination in the headlines at the current time? Seriously, this opening of Diagon Alley is stealing the spotlight from his Orlando destination right now like it hasn't for quite some time. Does anyone think he cares? Or does he look at his attendance numbers and shrug it off.
I, for one, am really hoping this stings him a bit. Right now, Universal is being touted as crafting the newest and best immersive land, having spared no expense, generating new and daring rides that are pushing the technological envelope within relatively reasonable project timelines. They are being lauded as leading the themepark business in terms of innovation and immersiveness. Universal is being talked about like WDW always has been. I truly hope that Iger has more pride than he knows what to do with.
Beholder
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Can't risk a virus.
Voice of Disney sanity
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This is not meant as an insult but it is quite apparent that most of you on here know nothing about running a BIG business. I keep hearing folks on this board refer to the fact that UNI isn't taking sales away from WDW and that until they do Disney will not react. The fact of the matter that is not how BIG businesses look at things. When Walmart sees Target's Billions of dollars in Sales they don't say "well it's ok because our sales are still going up. They Say Target has Billions in dollars of our sales. When Pizza hut sees Dominos doing $4 billion in Sales they say "That's our $4 billion and we have to find a way to get it back" It's the same with UNI They are doing Billions of dollars in Sales and that money should be and COULD BE Disney's. The Simple fact is that is if Disney would have built the UO resort IT WOULD BE their Dollars. Big Businesses look at it like this...All the money in the world is ours and we have to find a way to get it in our bank account. That's what Disney thinks and that's what they should be thinking. All the Billions that UNI is making IS coming out of Disney's pot!
Disneyhead'71
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Universal will make more off of Butterbeer than Disney makes off of all the in park Frozen merchandise sales.
Beholder
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I don't know, but I would imagine he would have to have a personal connection with WDW on some sort of emotional level to have his pride hurt. I'm not so sure he takes the parks that personal. It doesn't mean as much to him wether or not WDW is considered the "best" in Orlando.
Disneyhead'71
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Yeah, universal will probably sell a pin or two, maybe a refrigerator magnet and some wands. That's probably about it. This Potter thing is a fading fad.I thought by 'sales', you were were referring to a brand that would generate a constant demand. DVD sales not withstanding, I don't think there's a market for wands, owls or dark brown attire outside of Uni's gates.
Ranch Dressing
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Quick reality break.
Disney sells cheap Chinese made, high margin garbage. Universal sells cheap Chinese made, high margin garbage. Garbage is garbage unless youre making money from the garbage and in that case you're a smart businessman.
Food, or in this case garbage for thought.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled Disney verse Universal debate.
Disney sells cheap Chinese made, high margin garbage. Universal sells cheap Chinese made, high margin garbage. Garbage is garbage unless youre making money from the garbage and in that case you're a smart businessman.
Food, or in this case garbage for thought.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled Disney verse Universal debate.
Tony Perkis
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There's a substantial difference between DIsney's Chinese made garbage (standardized crap amongst all stores) and Universal's Chinese made garbage (specialized crap amongst select stores).
Ranch Dressing
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In the real world there is no difference. On message boards like this one there is. To each their own I suppose.
AndyMagic
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No. In the real world there IS a difference which is the entire point. More people are going to care if they haven't seen the particular crap in question on store shelves before. In Universal's case, a lot of the stuff within the boundaries of the park is unique "crap." Disney's crap is sold within 5 minutes of every home in America and thus, buying it for a mark-up within the park doesn't make much sense to the consumer.
Tony Perkis
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This is flawed logic that assumes that all merchandising items are created and sold as equal on all of the same sales platforms.
iheartdisney91
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The difference is that people want unique items, all be it to simply define who they are and/or to distinguish themselves from the herd, there is HIGH demand to have that "exclusive" item.
Figment2005
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All he did was make a general observation. A somewhat accurate observation. Cut the guy some slack already.