Gringrinngghost
Well-Known Member
I would like to send my commiserations to the entire moderation team.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the whataboutism has arrived!I think we need an Indian Santa. If not I will be offended.
Gonna disagree.Except colorblind casting for Frozen creates actual narrative discontinuity. Anna and Elsa not being the same race implies that one or both of them is adopted and that they're not biological sisters. Genetics is still a thing, and it matters in family-based stories.
You could do a Frozen where the whole family is Black. Or where the parents are mixed-race and the children are plausibly descended from the two of them. But two ostensibly biological siblings being different races is confusing, especially to young audiences.
You're right. Lets rotate Santas of different races.Inclusive would be rotating Santa’s across a variety of races randomly each night. Not simply adding a Black version and deepening exclusion of other races.
Except colorblind casting for Frozen creates actual narrative discontinuity. Anna and Elsa not being the same race implies that one or both of them is adopted and that they're not biological sisters. Genetics is still a thing, and it matters in family-based stories.
You could do a Frozen where the whole family is Black. Or where the parents are mixed-race and the children are plausibly descended from the two of them. But two ostensibly biological siblings being different races is confusing, especially to young audiences.
Santa is only white because of your experiences and where you live. The original St. Nick did not look white.This isn't a supposed to be a black man dressed as Santa. He's supposed to BE Santa. Santa is a fictional character who happens to be white. This would be like having Mickey Rat instead of Mickey Mouse.
This isn't "inclusion" it is pandering. Would we celebrate a white actor dressed up as the Black Panther? I don't think so and I'd be just as against that.
Now I know you're being modest about the scope and number of people who follow this site and your social media....I don’t think there will be an announcement.
I can sense the sarcasm in your response. I’m not suggesting they do this but if they are trying to be inclusive, that would be the way to do it.You're right. Lets rotate Santas of different races.
In an ideal world. But, instead of that casting headache, maybe Disney can get the rights from Comcast for this guy, replace Santa, and give parks rights to the Simpsons in return:You're right. Lets rotate Santas of different races.
Exactly. It was just as ridiculous when Hollywood producers chose John Wayne to play Genghis Khan. There is making sure that you’re being inclusive and then there’s taking that concept too far. This decision falls under the latter.This isn't a supposed to be a black man dressed as Santa. He's supposed to BE Santa. Santa is a fictional character who happens to be white. This would be like having Mickey Rat instead of Mickey Mouse.
This isn't "inclusion" it is pandering. Would we celebrate a white actor dressed up as the Black Panther? I don't think so and I'd be just as against that.
I don’t think anyone has ruled that out.Inclusive would be rotating Santa’s across a variety of races randomly each night. Not simply adding a Black version and deepening exclusion of other races.
"Siblings with different powers because one of them is secretly adopted" is literally the plot of Thor. It's a centuries-old narrative trope.The story involves, among other things, a talking snowman, mysterious rock trolls, and a young woman who can magically turn things to ice. But sure, draw the line at the sisters being of opposite races.
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