News Disney plans to include a black Santa Claus at Walt Disney World this year as the company continues its diversity and inclusion program

monothingie

Nakatomi Plaza Christmas Eve 1988. Never Forget.
Premium Member
Why can't people just enjoy having Santa around. If people are upset about the continuity or other aspects of this, then go find one of the many other Santas that I'm sure are on property waiting to greet guests.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

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Except colorblind casting for Frozen creates actual narrative discontinuity. Anna and Elsa not being the same race implies that one or both of them is adopted and that they're not biological sisters. Genetics is still a thing, and it matters in family-based stories.

You could do a Frozen where the whole family is Black. Or where the parents are mixed-race and the children are plausibly descended from the two of them. But two ostensibly biological siblings being different races is confusing, especially to young audiences.
Gonna disagree.
Them being adopted doesn't impact the story either. They are still sisters - one has powers.... etc.
 

Zummi Gummi

Pioneering the Universe Within!
Except colorblind casting for Frozen creates actual narrative discontinuity. Anna and Elsa not being the same race implies that one or both of them is adopted and that they're not biological sisters. Genetics is still a thing, and it matters in family-based stories.

You could do a Frozen where the whole family is Black. Or where the parents are mixed-race and the children are plausibly descended from the two of them. But two ostensibly biological siblings being different races is confusing, especially to young audiences.

The story involves, among other things, a talking snowman, mysterious rock trolls, and a young woman who can magically turn things to ice. But sure, draw the line at the sisters being of opposite races.
 

correcaminos

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This isn't a supposed to be a black man dressed as Santa. He's supposed to BE Santa. Santa is a fictional character who happens to be white. This would be like having Mickey Rat instead of Mickey Mouse.

This isn't "inclusion" it is pandering. Would we celebrate a white actor dressed up as the Black Panther? I don't think so and I'd be just as against that.
Santa is only white because of your experiences and where you live. The original St. Nick did not look white.
 

sullyinMT

Well-Known Member
You're right. Lets rotate Santas of different races.
In an ideal world. But, instead of that casting headache, maybe Disney can get the rights from Comcast for this guy, replace Santa, and give parks rights to the Simpsons in return:

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Then, if you're caught not buying G+ &/or ILL, judgement is nigh!
 

WDWFanRay

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This isn't a supposed to be a black man dressed as Santa. He's supposed to BE Santa. Santa is a fictional character who happens to be white. This would be like having Mickey Rat instead of Mickey Mouse.

This isn't "inclusion" it is pandering. Would we celebrate a white actor dressed up as the Black Panther? I don't think so and I'd be just as against that.
Exactly. It was just as ridiculous when Hollywood producers chose John Wayne to play Genghis Khan. There is making sure that you’re being inclusive and then there’s taking that concept too far. This decision falls under the latter.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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They could easily find an olive skinned person to play the roll who could pass as white, black, Mediterranean, hispanic, etc… that gets into colorism though and opens a whole new can of worms.
 
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